Hi Ali, In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014: 1. Local policies enabling Internet Access 2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use 3. Internet as an engine for growth and development 4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem 5. Enhancing Digital Trust 6. Internet and Human Rights 7. Critical Internet Resources 8. Emerging Issues Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore? Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

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Hi Alex, I agree with you, any thoughts on the issues we should discuss as a country, during last years Kenya IGF, your sentiments were raised by some participantswhich motivated me to throw the spanner in the works and see whether we should localise the global discussion or if there are pertinent issues unique to Kenya that we should raise and focus on, what do you think are priority areas? Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype

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Indeed, contributions from members are welcome so that we build a collective position on the same, it can form the basis of our online and face to face discussions later on in the year. Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Barrack,

Thanks for asking me. I was hoping we asked us the same for a collective opinion and position articulation?

kind regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Hi Alex,

I agree with you, any thoughts on the issues we should discuss as a country, during last years Kenya IGF, your sentiments were raised by some participantswhich motivated me to throw the spanner in the works and see whether we should localise the global discussion or if there are pertinent issues unique to Kenya that we should raise and focus on, what do you think are priority areas?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

...

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype

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Hi Daniel, I believe this is in line with the Free wi-fi in public areas promise in the Jubilee Governments Manifesto. Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com>wrote:

*Dear Listers,* *No.9- Internet free for all*

*This i believe falls in here.*

*thanks*

*Daniel Omondi*

On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:09 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:

Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype

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Interesting article Alex, what caught my eye is this line 'Similarly, India has also decided to favour a pre-dominantly multilateral approach on issues related to Internet governance rather than multi-stakeholder approach which is mainly being advocated by the West. "India feels that the very term multi-stakeholder was something of a 'misnomer'. I wonder what other listers think Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

Indian civil society groups protest appointment of civil society co chair of Brazil meeting

--snip---

"India feels that the very term multi-stakeholder was something of a 'misnomer'. A small unrepresentative group of certain individuals, supported by vested interests, appear to have arrogated themselves the right to present certain views in discussions relating to Internet governance. It was not clear as to who they represent and whether who they claimed to represent had in fact nominated them. These persons undermine the positions of the government and were really spokespersons of certain Western interests," the note says.

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/india-to-push-for-freei... --snap--

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Daniel Otieno Omondi < dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

*Dear Listers,* *No.9- Internet free for all*

*This i believe falls in here.*

*thanks*

*Daniel Omondi*

On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:09 AM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com

...

wrote:

Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype

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Hi GG, Agreed, i just posted the nine areas to kick start the discussion, Gakuru has introduced and interesting area with his post, Daniel Omondi has also raised an area we can think through. I am keen to know what is happening in so far as enhanced cooperation is concerned, is it an area relevant to Kenya that can be discussed? many thanks for your contribution Best Regards On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:

@Barrack, previously listers have come up with what are our priority issues which are then debated in f2f meeting during the Kenya IGF. Sometimes the issues have been similar to what is being discussed globally but sometimes we have had our own unique issues. As Gakuru says, can we ponder and decide what is relevant for us?

------------------------------ From: gakuru@gmail.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:08:33 +0300 To: otieno.barrack@gmail.com CC: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Internet Governance, Where does Kenya Stand?

Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:

Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype

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Thank you alex for pointing this out. I have followed this buy out for a while but i must say the internet and its players are disadvantaged. A while back an airline delta airline put up a spirited fight to buy out small other competitor airlines in the united states. Though the buy out was later approved by the judicial system the goverment had in fact refused to sanction the sale in a view to promote competition and leverage prices to the customers. After the buy out prices increased for a 2hr flight from 100 usd to 250 usd. What suddens me most is the lack of similar spirited fight againt comcast in the buy out of netflix, the goverment was and is silent, the us judiciary us silent so is the trade unions. This is a dangerous move to common citizens of any nation. Facebook just bought watsapp to some this is just business gone good to me i read mischieve that must be stopped. Facebook over the years have voluntarily cooparated with the NSA giving (selling) user data and just recently the NSA came under critism for phone tapping. Is it coincidence that facebook just bought watsapp a phone application which i anticipate facebook will open its floodgates to scruitiny from the NSA? Who will protect this small firms that do not play ball to the NSA but the work around would be a buy out to big firms that sell out user data the facebooks and the comcast of today ? Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:

Another contribution....

Cognisant of the fact that Internet of the 90s morphed from a "public park" into a "private mall" of today. We demand all Africa Regulators outlaw *everything* anti-network neutral -- keep the packets flowing freely with non-interference by ISP and operators to pre-empt ongoings in US thereby ensuring Internet users are protected. FCC is a failure in this regard...

[Washington Post]

Comcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete By Timothy B. Lee 23 February, 2014

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-w...

[Free Press’ response]

http://www.freepress.net/blog/2014/02/24/arresting-development-why-comcast-n...

...

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Hi GG,

Agreed, i just posted the nine areas to kick start the discussion, Gakuru has introduced and interesting area with his post, Daniel Omondi has also raised an area we can think through. I am keen to know what is happening in so far as enhanced cooperation is concerned, is it an area relevant to Kenya that can be discussed? many thanks for your contribution

Best Regards

...

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> wrote: @Barrack, previously listers have come up with what are our priority issues which are then debated in f2f meeting during the Kenya IGF. Sometimes the issues have been similar to what is being discussed globally but sometimes we have had our own unique issues. As Gakuru says, can we ponder and decide what is relevant for us?

From: gakuru@gmail.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:08:33 +0300 To: otieno.barrack@gmail.com CC: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Internet Governance, Where does Kenya Stand?

Barrack,

Before automatically 'adopting' perhaps we need to pause and ponder what motivated, how, why, and who set this discussion agenda? At least that would help our collective better understanding of the set discussion agenda, scope and possible outcomes?

regards,

Alex

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Ali,

In addition to WCIT, we also have the Net Mundial meeting in Brazil. I also came across an email in which the following key areas were highlighted as themes for 2014:

1. Local policies enabling Internet Access

2. Content Creation, Dissemination and Use

3. Internet as an engine for growth and development

4. IGF and the Future of Internet ecosystem

5. Enhancing Digital Trust

6. Internet and Human Rights

7. Critical Internet Resources

8. Emerging Issues

Can we adopt this to guide our discussions in 2014?, what are the main issues under the various thematic areas that we might want to explore?

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: Barrack

We had a position as per WCIT12..

I have asked this question severally, even addressed the CS personally..

Ali Hussein

+254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113

"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

As the Internet Governance debate unfolds globally , it would be good for Kenya to establish its position. In light of ongoing debates what do you think should be our priorities for 2014? Where should we channel our energies so that we can contribute effectively to the global process?

Best Regards

-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277+254721325277 +254-20-2498789+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ Call Send SMS Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc

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