How much should one really pay for Proprietary or Freedom Software? A guide to Kenyan users....
This is going to be a heck of a thread, time to roll up the sleeves? Rgds. -- **--If I ever wrote code on a system for the better of consumer freedoms or choice, I'd rather create the complete system with people who share the same views than give out a single line of code to code thieves who will use it to defeat the principles of freedom and choices---2011--Me--**
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
This is going to be a heck of a thread, time to roll up the sleeves?
what are you selling ?
@aki how much should one pay for a double double burger? On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
This is going to be a heck of a thread, time to roll up the sleeves?
Rgds.
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@Ashok, I'm not selling any software but I can find out prices for the sake of this discussion. @Brainiac, at least the double burger prices are listed? Costs included are 3 phase electric supply, jobs, heaters and grills and some profits. There is no creative commons here, to start with. :-) On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:04 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
@aki how much should one pay for a double double burger?
my point is, without going through the specifics, we cannot reliably give opinion. consider also that elec in nairobi costs different from elec in copenhagen, as does the hourly wage and tax... compounding that with company growth objectives, you can never have a right or wrong answer to your question. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:16 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ashok, I'm not selling any software but I can find out prices for the sake of this discussion.
@Brainiac, at least the double burger prices are listed? Costs included are 3 phase electric supply, jobs, heaters and grills and some profits. There is no creative commons here, to start with. :-)
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:04 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
@aki how much should one pay for a double double burger?
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@Brainiac, imo: Let us talk about input costs, assuming that all software development was done in Nairobi, on both so as to establish a market value: - The level of skilled programmers needed on both and time spent on creating actual code that provides the functionality of the software - Graphics teams or graphics artists needed. - Code testers - Code certification process and evaluation - Support teams and costs - Marketing costs - Sales teams - Commercial resellers I think this would be a good start. On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:33 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
my point is, without going through the specifics, we cannot reliably give opinion. consider also that elec in nairobi costs different from elec in copenhagen, as does the hourly wage and tax... compounding that with company growth objectives, you can never have a right or wrong answer to your question.
The user should pay what the seller is asking for or near offer. Maybe the question would then change to what should a seller really charge for the software? What any user is willing to pay for a software should be tied to expected utility or informed by some cost benefit analysis. Am sure if you needed a hole fixed on an oil tank you might be willing to pay more compared to a case where the tank were carrying water or human waste. Most developer, webdesigners or software companies at least in Kenya go with the Price differentiation,same software is the priced depending on who is buying. Sent from my iPad On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:44 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Brainiac, imo:
Let us talk about input costs, assuming that all software development was done in Nairobi, on both so as to establish a market value:
- The level of skilled programmers needed on both and time spent on creating actual code that provides the functionality of the software
- Graphics teams or graphics artists needed.
- Code testers
- Code certification process and evaluation
- Support teams and costs
- Marketing costs
- Sales teams
- Commercial resellers
I think this would be a good start.
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:33 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: my point is, without going through the specifics, we cannot reliably give opinion. consider also that elec in nairobi costs different from elec in copenhagen, as does the hourly wage and tax... compounding that with company growth objectives, you can never have a right or wrong answer to your question.
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com>wrote:
The user should pay what the seller is asking for or near offer. Maybe the question would then change to what should a seller really charge for the software?
What any user is willing to pay for a software should be tied to expected utility or informed by some cost benefit analysis. Am sure if you needed a hole fixed on an oil tank you might be willing to pay more compared to a case where the tank were carrying water or human waste.
Most developer, webdesigners or software companies at least in Kenya go with the Price differentiation,same software is the priced depending on who is buying.
Sent from my iPad
@Jared, thnks. You inputs adds a new view. I'd also really like to address the specifics of doing software development in Kenya, based on Proprietary or Freedom Software. Both are not commercially free items, and both are competing for the same markets, so who is really at a handicap? And without the consumer market unaware, it could be a story of trying to sell a Toyota for the price of a Bentley due to lack of information. I hope this thread will take into consideration the end user/consumer benefit. Cheers.
My thots. You price software based on the following factors Factor A. A client should pay for a product depending on the perceived value. To get the perceived value the client does a cost benefit analysis... including the opportunity cost. The client also has the option of doing away with the software and with it comes its benefits. Factor B. Market Forces: Demand and Supply. if there too many vendors chasing few clients then the price is low. and vice versa. Factor C Points of Differentiation. if there is no differentiation on your software/product. What value are you adding to it to justify the price increase. Actually it should just die a natural death. if i sell cabbages and you sell cabbages our difference will be the price. MK On Thursday, November 24, 2011, aki wrote:
This is going to be a heck of a thread, time to roll up the sleeves?
Rgds.
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**--If I ever wrote code on a system for the better of consumer freedoms or choice, I'd rather create the complete system with people who share the same views than give out a single line of code to code thieves who will use it to defeat the principles of freedom and choices---2011--Me--**
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