On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:

I do not think this is for this forum.

Actually I think it is. It's time IT folks helped kill some of the crap that's being spread out there, and this is a good start. BR, S

Makmende But being objective enough, probably there is a basis behind the drama On 26 March 2013 09:45, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

i blame CSI and all those series

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:

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I do not think this is for this forum.

Actually I think it is. It's time IT folks helped kill some of the crap that's being spread out there, and this is a good start.

BR,

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oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now.. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

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Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

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Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

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+1 @Joram good humor .. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

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oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

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I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com

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wrote:

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Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

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Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

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I thought IEBC were using a MySQL database, dude logged in to Oracle. I could be wrong. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com>wrote:

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

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politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

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oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

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I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

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Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

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This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com

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wrote:

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As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:

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politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

...

oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is this legit.. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be > > -- > Regards, > Charles. G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)? On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:

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This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

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@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

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As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com

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wrote:

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politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

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oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call > it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although > these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big > question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-( > > ./Ok3ch > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Oh please..... > > > > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere > > and > > the key thrown away.... > > > > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" > > > > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a > > bad > > name > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu > > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Is this legit.. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Charles. G. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> skunkworks mailing list > >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > skunkworks mailing list > > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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hehehe TNA@TNA .. woi my ribs ..he's on a mac with a gotomypc remote app .. aii i offer my self for episode 2 , kutoa hizi aibu .... we need proper rumor mongering On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

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This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

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As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: > oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok > back to work now.. > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call >> it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although >> these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big >> question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-( >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Oh please..... >> > >> > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere >> > and >> > the key thrown away.... >> > >> > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" >> > >> > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a >> > bad >> > name >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu >> > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Is this legit.. >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Charles. G. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> skunkworks mailing list >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > skunkworks mailing list >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > GG >

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He he. .this was a funny one. Why are some scared that we will start throwing chairs and keyboards? This is in the same calibre as those hoodlums rolling around in the forest for the CNN cameras. Problem is we do not have any credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry. Why is there no official response rubbishing the guy point for point publicly? Ama we think Skunkworks is a news channel? Just laughing at him is one thing. Standing up for your profession is another. I bet the law society of Kenya would never tolerate some random guy doing such antics with the law. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

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Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

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This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

...

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:

> politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can > classify this one as comedy > > On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: > > oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me > funny..ok > > back to work now.. > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to > call > >> it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, > although > >> these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big > >> question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all > :-( > >> > >> ./Ok3ch > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < > blongwe@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Oh please..... > >> > > >> > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up > somewhere > >> > and > >> > the key thrown away.... > >> > > >> > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" > >> > > >> > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and > technology a > >> > bad > >> > name > >> > > >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu > >> > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Is this legit.. > >> >> > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Charles. G. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> skunkworks mailing list > >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> >> ------------ > >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >> ------------ > >> >> > >> >> Skunkworks Rules > >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > skunkworks mailing list > >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> > ------------ > >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> > ------------ > >> > > >> > Skunkworks Rules > >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> > ------------ > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> _______________________________________________ > >> skunkworks mailing list > >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > GG > > > > > -- > Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are > powerful > beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens > us.There is > nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel > insecure > around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other > people > permission to do the same. > As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically > liberates > others. > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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@Wash...+1.. On 26 Mar 2013 17:31, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

@Mark,

Who do you propose to give the "official" response - the credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry.

I suggest we all become members of the Computer Society of Kenya (CSK) and from there we can offer official rebuttals. CSK would be representative of the ICT community the same way LSK is to the legal fraternity. So from CSK, we could call an extraordinary general meeting to agree on official response to quarks like the one on that clip :-)

Who is game??? Here is the form - http://www.cskonline.org/individual-membership-application-form-2013

On 26 March 2013 16:55, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

...

He he. .this was a funny one. Why are some scared that we will start throwing chairs and keyboards? This is in the same calibre as those hoodlums rolling around in the forest for the CNN cameras.

Problem is we do not have any credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry. Why is there no official response rubbishing the guy point for point publicly? Ama we think Skunkworks is a news channel? Just laughing at him is one thing. Standing up for your profession is another.

I bet the law society of Kenya would never tolerate some random guy doing such antics with the law.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

...

This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

> @tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case > charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, > we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this > topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being > of a "divisively sensitive" nature.... > > will as many as are of this say ayee.... > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < > techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious >> allegation as this and we just shrug it off? >> >> SMH. Honestly am disappointed >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < >> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can >>> classify this one as comedy >>> >>> On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me >>> funny..ok >>> > back to work now.. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to >>> call >>> >> it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, >>> although >>> >> these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big >>> >> question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us >>> all :-( >>> >> >>> >> ./Ok3ch >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < >>> blongwe@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Oh please..... >>> >> > >>> >> > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up >>> somewhere >>> >> > and >>> >> > the key thrown away.... >>> >> > >>> >> > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" >>> >> > >>> >> > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and >>> technology a >>> >> > bad >>> >> > name >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu >>> >> > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Is this legit.. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> Regards, >>> >> >> Charles. G. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> skunkworks mailing list >>> >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> >> ------------ >>> >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >> ------------ >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >>> >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> >> ------------ >>> >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > skunkworks mailing list >>> >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > >>> >> > Skunkworks Rules >>> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> > ------------ >>> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> ------------ >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> ------------ >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > GG >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are >>> powerful >>> beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens >>> us.There is >>> nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't >>> feel insecure >>> around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give >>> other people >>> permission to do the same. >>> As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically >>> liberates >>> others. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three > developments of great political importance: the growth of > democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of > corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against > democracy”* > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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It saddens me to actually reply to this, but I just have to say.... What a steaming load of bulls**t!!! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia6OJAP-KS0

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@Wash...+1.. On 26 Mar 2013 17:31, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@Mark,

Who do you propose to give the "official" response - the credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry.

I suggest we all become members of the Computer Society of Kenya (CSK) and from there we can offer official rebuttals. CSK would be representative of the ICT community the same way LSK is to the legal fraternity. So from CSK, we could call an extraordinary general meeting to agree on official response to quarks like the one on that clip :-)

Who is game??? Here is the form - http://www.cskonline.org/individual-membership-application-form-2013

On 26 March 2013 16:55, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

...

He he. .this was a funny one. Why are some scared that we will start throwing chairs and keyboards? This is in the same calibre as those hoodlums rolling around in the forest for the CNN cameras.

Problem is we do not have any credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry. Why is there no official response rubbishing the guy point for point publicly? Ama we think Skunkworks is a news channel? Just laughing at him is one thing. Standing up for your profession is another.

I bet the law society of Kenya would never tolerate some random guy doing such antics with the law.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com>wrote:

> Started watching... > Wondering if its a windows advert... > Wondering if I should change profession. > This is embarrassing us techs. :'( > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote: > >> This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed >> to go without a response. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < >> arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this >>> case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So >>> far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this >>> topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being >>> of a "divisively sensitive" nature.... >>> >>> will as many as are of this say ayee.... >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < >>> techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious >>>> allegation as this and we just shrug it off? >>>> >>>> SMH. Honestly am disappointed >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < >>>> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can >>>>> classify this one as comedy >>>>> >>>>> On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me >>>>> funny..ok >>>>> > back to work now.. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu < >>>>> okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority >>>>> to call >>>>> >> it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, >>>>> although >>>>> >> these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the >>>>> big >>>>> >> question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us >>>>> all :-( >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ./Ok3ch >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < >>>>> blongwe@gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > Oh please..... >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up >>>>> somewhere >>>>> >> > and >>>>> >> > the key thrown away.... >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and >>>>> technology a >>>>> >> > bad >>>>> >> > name >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu >>>>> >> > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Is this legit.. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> Regards, >>>>> >> >> Charles. G. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> >> >> ------------ >>>>> >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> >> >> ------------ >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> >> >> ------------ >>>>> >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> > skunkworks mailing list >>>>> >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> >> > ------------ >>>>> >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> >> > ------------ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> >> > ------------ >>>>> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > GG >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are >>>>> powerful >>>>> beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens >>>>> us.There is >>>>> nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't >>>>> feel insecure >>>>> around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give >>>>> other people >>>>> permission to do the same. >>>>> As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically >>>>> liberates >>>>> others. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three >>> developments of great political importance: the growth of >>> democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of >>> corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against >>> democracy”* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Kore Francis Njenga > Running and Walking are only breaths apart. > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Technology is a double-edged sword. So far we have seen the good side - Ushahidi, mpesa, e.t.c This video clearly shows one of the bad sides - propaganda. I expect to see more of this in addition to the 'hate-mongering' going on in the social media front. We can't state a problem without giving our contribution towards solving it! In addition to laughing at such propaganda, I suggest we should now start giving our replies or "counter-propaganda" as techies. Maybe we should have 'Sponsored by Skunkworks Kenya' videos on you tube with explanations from the true experts that we are! At least we owe our country that much! On a lighter note, our courtesy will be extended to our media sisters and brothers! One of them, in an effort to sound edgy said, "...the IEBC VPN that is run on an Oracle database ..."! On 27 March 2013 09:30, Tony Gacheru <tonygacheru@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would TNA and IEBC need to hack anything if they conspired? Why not just manipulate the data which they had full access?****

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*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Ngure *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:15 PM *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] How TNA and IEBC Conspired to Rig 2013 Kenya Elections****

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It saddens me to actually reply to this, but I just have to say....****

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What a steaming load of bulls**t!!!****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote: ****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia6OJAP-KS0 ****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:****

@Wash...+1..****

On 26 Mar 2013 17:31, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:*** *

@Mark,****

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Who do you propose to give the "official" response - the credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry.****

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I suggest we all become members of the Computer Society of Kenya (CSK) and from there we can offer official rebuttals. CSK would be representative of the ICT community the same way LSK is to the legal fraternity. So from CSK, we could call an extraordinary general meeting to agree on official response to quarks like the one on that clip :-)****

Who is game??? Here is the form - http://www.cskonline.org/individual-membership-application-form-2013****

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On 26 March 2013 16:55, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:****

He he. .this was a funny one. Why are some scared that we will start throwing chairs and keyboards? This is in the same calibre as those hoodlums rolling around in the forest for the CNN cameras.****

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Problem is we do not have any credible rebuttal from the supposedly shamed IT industry. Why is there no official response rubbishing the guy point for point publicly? Ama we think Skunkworks is a news channel? Just laughing at him is one thing. Standing up for your profession is another. ****

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I bet the law society of Kenya would never tolerate some random guy doing such antics with the law. ****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:****

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-... ****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:****

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:* ***

Started watching...****

Wondering if its a windows advert...****

Wondering if I should change profession.****

This is embarrassing us techs. :'(****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote: ****

This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:****

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature.... ****

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will as many as are of this say ayee....****

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:****

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?****

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SMH. Honestly am disappointed****

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:****

politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy****

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

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oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com

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wrote:

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Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

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Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

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Lemmie tell you something guys, even if Kencall was to be hacked, the IEBC servers, wouldn't have been compromised. They only they wud have done it, by use a Red Team attack, which wud combine physical breach and operational breach to effectively gain access to the target infrastructure via KenCall. So whoever did this vid, he has really embarrassed the security members of this country. And am ashamed of the path we are leading to. ./Chucks On 3/26/13, Christian Ledermann <christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

...

This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

...

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

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> politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can > classify this one as comedy > > On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: > > oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me > funny..ok > > back to work now.. > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to > call > >> it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, > >> although > >> these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big > >> question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all > :-( > >> > >> ./Ok3ch > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe < > blongwe@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Oh please..... > >> > > >> > whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up > somewhere > >> > and > >> > the key thrown away.... > >> > > >> > ....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com" > >> > > >> > We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and > technology a > >> > bad > >> > name > >> > > >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu > >> > <charles.kungu@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Is this legit.. > >> >> > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Charles. G. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> skunkworks mailing list > >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> >> ------------ > >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >> ------------ > >> >> > >> >> Skunkworks Rules > >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > skunkworks mailing list > >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> > ------------ > >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> > ------------ > >> > > >> > Skunkworks Rules > >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> > ------------ > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> _______________________________________________ > >> skunkworks mailing list > >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > GG > > > > > -- > Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are > powerful > beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens > us.There is > nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel > insecure > around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other > people > permission to do the same. > As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically > liberates > others. > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Good point Erik, Fact #1 IEBC rented physical infrastructure from Kencall for their *own* call center. With their own staff, and their own databases. This arrangement was entered into months before the elections and served to respond to public queries regarding the voter registration exercise and subsequent to that - how to verify your registered details (I think we all remember the advertisements which included phone numbers to call for any query). There is too much fantasy/fiction/falsehoods being entertained... Best regards, Brian On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:

Steve Muchai got this right:

Actually I think it is. It's time IT folks helped kill some of the crap that's being spread out there, and this is a good start.

However, the only way to do that is with real facts and verifiable information. The biggest problem we keep having is that people don't want to put the facts out there, therefore people who want to help refute some of the speculation don't have a credible way to begin.

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:

Lemmie tell you something guys, even if Kencall was to be hacked, the IEBC servers, wouldn't have been compromised. They only they wud have done it, by use a Red Team attack, which wud combine physical breach and operational breach to effectively gain access to the target infrastructure via KenCall.

So whoever did this vid, he has really embarrassed the security members of this country. And am ashamed of the path we are leading to.

./Chucks

On 3/26/13, Christian Ledermann <christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:

politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me

funny..ok

back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>

wrote:

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to

call

it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all

:-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <

blongwe@gmail.com>

wrote:

Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up

somewhere

and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and

technology a

bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

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So if someone hacked Safaricom, my ISP, does that mean my server has also been hacked? On 3/26/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

Good point Erik,

Fact #1

IEBC rented physical infrastructure from Kencall for their *own* call center. With their own staff, and their own databases. This arrangement was entered into months before the elections and served to respond to public queries regarding the voter registration exercise and subsequent to that - how to verify your registered details (I think we all remember the advertisements which included phone numbers to call for any query).

There is too much fantasy/fiction/falsehoods being entertained...

Best regards,

Brian

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> wrote:

...

Steve Muchai got this right:

Actually I think it is. It's time IT folks helped kill some of the crap that's being spread out there, and this is a good start.

However, the only way to do that is with real facts and verifiable information. The biggest problem we keep having is that people don't want to put the facts out there, therefore people who want to help refute some of the speculation don't have a credible way to begin.

Erik Hersman

www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>

On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:

Lemmie tell you something guys, even if Kencall was to be hacked, the IEBC servers, wouldn't have been compromised. They only they wud have done it, by use a Red Team attack, which wud combine physical breach and operational breach to effectively gain access to the target infrastructure via KenCall.

So whoever did this vid, he has really embarrassed the security members of this country. And am ashamed of the path we are leading to.

./Chucks

On 3/26/13, Christian Ledermann <christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-controversial-math-problems-2013-3#-...

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:

The guy just logs in to a machine without even demonstrating its remote. As far as I know he could be on his computer logging into a database he has installed. He knows all the passwords, Database names etc. Could this be one of the upcoming episodes of 24 (Kenyan Vindio & Drama)?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:

Started watching... Wondering if its a windows advert... Wondering if I should change profession. This is embarrassing us techs. :'(

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:

This alleged hacking is ridiculously stupid. It should be allowed to go without a response.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:

@tech list, the burden of proof is on the petitioner , in this case charles to convince us that the evidence hereby submitted is legit. So far, we are not convinced, whats wrong with that? nonetheless, I think this topic ventures out of bounds of skunkworks purview on account of it being of a "divisively sensitive" nature....

will as many as are of this say ayee....

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Tech List Kenya < techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:

As in that's it??? From the so called premier tech list? Serious allegation as this and we just shrug it off?

SMH. Honestly am disappointed

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joram Mwinamo < joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:

politics is one sure way of killing a list like this. But we can classify this one as comedy

On 3/26/13, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me

funny..ok

back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>

wrote:

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to

call

it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all

:-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <

blongwe@gmail.com>

wrote:

Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up

somewhere

and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and

technology a

bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com> wrote:

Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

-- Regards, Charles. G.

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1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

}<(((*>

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I think its time to branch into Law, with my IT Skills, I will trash this video using such words as Amicus Kuria Sincerely, Jared Oyier about.me/jaredkoyier On 26 March 2013 09:44, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:

oh dear me am laughing so hard my workmates are looking at me funny..ok back to work now..

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I found this one vague, although I do not have the authority to call it what Mblayo just did, though the logs do seem credible, although these can also be manipulated - I think authenticity is the big question here and if these are authentic, then god protect us all :-(

./Ok3ch

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Oh please.....

whoever pulled off this schoolboy antic should be locked up somewhere and the key thrown away....

....."we are logging into intranet.kencall.com"

We are not children, and this kind of stuff gives IT and technology a bad name

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com

wrote:

...

Is this legit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycqlyVfnq0&feature=youtu.be

-- Regards, Charles. G.

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