Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle? -- Sent from my mobile device christiano kwena +254722243459
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine#Engine_capacity 2.5 is a pretty big engine. Consumption will depend on other factors such as fuel system (carburettor vs. injection), whether the engine is naturally aspirated or uses forced induction. BR, S
hehehe :-) ooh no.... An consumption question? 2.5litre seems like a guzzler if its petrol but what type of engine, vvti, vtec, neovvl? auto or manual transmission, awd, rwd, fwd, variable intake manifold, cvt, wheel size and tyre type, no of pax carried etc etc. without these parameters, its a wild guess. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena < christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
Hehe.........Christiano, are you a cabinet minister? Hon. UK alisema 1800cc, hapana 2500cc!lol! On 6/23/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
hehehe :-) ooh no.... An consumption question? 2.5litre seems like a guzzler if its petrol but what type of engine, vvti, vtec, neovvl? auto or manual transmission, awd, rwd, fwd, variable intake manifold, cvt, wheel size and tyre type, no of pax carried etc etc. without these parameters, its a wild guess.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena < christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
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I watch top gear and they say like 7lts will do 100km, however newspaper adverts just say 2.5 ltr, so i just wanted to know what that is i.e. How many km for a litre. Thank you all -- christiano kwena +254722243459
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena < christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
I think I need to refer again to some notes as I am a bit rusty with this stuff but I believe 2.5l represents *the total capacity of the air+fuel mixture used by the engine* (here I mean the total number of cylinders in the piston engine) *during a single full combustion cycle* - when air is inducted into the cylinders, mixed with fuel and burnt to produce the power to drive the wheels. Forget the gory details of this unless you want to be an engine specialist. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Christiano, I think you are referring to fuel consumption, measured in miles per gallon(mpg)[litres per kilometre]. That is different from the engine capacity, and they aren't directly related as such. A lower engine capacity vehicle may have more consumption than a higher capacity one. 2009/6/24 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena < christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
I think I need to refer again to some notes as I am a bit rusty with this stuff but I believe 2.5l represents *the total capacity of the air+fuel mixture used by the engine* (here I mean the total number of cylinders in the piston engine) *during a single full combustion cycle* - when air is inducted into the cylinders, mixed with fuel and burnt to produce the power to drive the wheels. Forget the gory details of this unless you want to be an engine specialist.
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The engine capacity, just like Wash mentioned, cannot tell you much about the exact consumption, but it says how much litres of petrol/diesel + air mixtur,e that the engine consumes during a full cycle. You can have a 2.5L engine which produces 150bhp and a 1.8L which produces 200bhp and the 1.8L will consume more fuel than the 2.5L ./Ok3ch 2009/6/24 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM, christiano kwena < christianokwena@googlemail.com> wrote:
Skunks, what does a 2.5 litre engine refer to interms of fuel consumption of the vehicle?
I think I need to refer again to some notes as I am a bit rusty with this stuff but I believe 2.5l represents *the total capacity of the air+fuel mixture used by the engine* (here I mean the total number of cylinders in the piston engine) *during a single full combustion cycle* - when air is inducted into the cylinders, mixed with fuel and burnt to produce the power to drive the wheels. Forget the gory details of this unless you want to be an engine specialist.
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Wow! Thank you all. I thought I'll get my answer straight forward but what I've got is way much better. A little more googling and I'll be able to beat the sales person at cmc or davis&shirtliff. By the way i do horticulture with IT and last semester a course in farm machinery and equipment only side light on the no. Of strokes. This info will assist me chose the best truck for the job. Thank you. -- christiano kwena +254722243459
on horticulture "cars" use diesel type as you want low rpm ( engine power output max at 2500rpm ) torque not speed. Imagine buying a formula 1 for high speed farming... hehehe! that would be a funny sight! LOL! :-)
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best. 2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Wow! Thank you all. I thought I'll get my answer straight forward but what I've got is way much better. A little more googling and I'll be able to beat the sales person at cmc or davis&shirtliff. By the way i do horticulture with IT and last semester a course in farm machinery and equipment only side light on the no. Of strokes. This info will assist me chose the best truck for the job. Thank you.
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc. GA 2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were
actually
testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Now that I see there are Top gear fans, well am one I do not know how my wife will take it when I get one.. soaps ama Topgear, Like Okech said its not the size of the engine its what it can do, Top gear also did another trial where they tested a Toyota Prius 1500 cc with a BMW cant remember the engine size, so Jeremy was to drive the BMW and just keep up with the Toyota turns out the Toyota actually consumed more, he concluded " its not the engine size or the car, its how you drive" if you stepped on the BMW and produced all the horses it has then you better be a Minister, but if you kept to speeds of 140 and below you wont be hurt that much. But, oh yes there is a but ... , they is cruising speeds not town drive, which is totally different. I have an 1950cc and I have proved that if you drive moderately and let it pick speed gently then I save on fuel ... I know you get the drift BR// Watson 2009/6/24 Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com>
Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc.
GA
2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were
actually
testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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and I have proved that if you drive moderately and let it pick speed gently then I save on fuel ... I know you get the drift
Totally true. Alfa Romeo Owners Club have an annual Economy Run to Naivasha which demonstrates this. Was held the other weekend and was quite annoying especially after the end of the dual carriageway, since I wasn't doing any economy driving myself! Maintenance plays a big role. Worn piston rings, old spark plugs or simply a clogged air filter are examples of stuff that will definitely ramp up your consumption, but driving style is definitely a major contributor to good/bad consumption. BR, S
Short summary Factors to consider - Engine efficiency: how much fuel to how much power. - Transmission Efficiency: power delivery from engine to road. - Aerodynamics: how hard is it to move forward faster. - Weight: manufacturers estimate over actual weight now. - Transmission design: is it for speed e.g.CLK tops at 320kmph or power e.g. H2 tops at 180kmph (same engine size). - Manufacturers intention: e.g. Bugati over Prius. - Driving Style: - Wear and Tear: especialy in the Engine, Transmission and suspension. **
*Top gear also did another trial where they tested a Toyota Prius 1500 cc with a BMW cant remember the engine size, so Jeremy was to drive the BMW and just keep up with the Toyota turns out the Toyota actually consumed more, he concluded " its not the engine size or the car, its how you drive"*
This episode started with Jeramey racing all the big sport cars on 1 gallon of fuel and it resulted with Ferrari being worst and Audi being most efficient (Actually overlapped the Ferrari). The lesson behind the Prius test was how you drive. for example take the comon driver and ask them Toyota 1.6 and a Merc 1.6 which consumes more (vague question) all will settle on Toyota, try the same with a larger engine and toyota will be wrong. In reality taking all factors into consideration especialy vehicle power and weight Merc is more efficient but whe you look at Kilometers per litre their is a different scale. Vehicle efficiency is best at cruising speed this is the highest speed the car can do on low revs and a high gear without losing speed. usualy 3rd gear at about 90kmph. Small engines are more economical at low speeds e.g Vitz, Big Engines are more economical at high speeds e.g. (Pick any). Engine size is relative to power which is bound on Engine Type Have to mention Marda RX8 is only 1500cc but is competition for the Porsche at 3000cc coz its a rotary engine and consumes like a 3000cc, To answer the original question how efficient is 2500cc, google the make and model of the car not the engine. also consider the extras that come with the engine e.g. EFI, VVTi, Turbo, SC, e.t.c Ashford K. Maina, Casey Stengel<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/casey_stengel.html> - "All right everyone, line up alphabetically according to your height." 2009/6/24 Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
2009/6/24 Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> [...]
and I have proved that if you drive moderately and let it pick speed gently then I save on fuel ... I know you get the drift
Totally true. Alfa Romeo Owners Club have an annual Economy Run to Naivasha which demonstrates this. Was held the other weekend and was quite annoying especially after the end of the dual carriageway, since I wasn't doing any economy driving myself!
Maintenance plays a big role. Worn piston rings, old spark plugs or simply a clogged air filter are examples of stuff that will definitely ramp up your consumption, but driving style is definitely a major contributor to good/bad consumption.
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*Totally true. Alfa Romeo Owners Club have an annual Economy Run to Naivasha which demonstrates this. Was held the other weekend and was quite annoying especially after the end of the dual carriageway, since I wasn't doing any economy driving myself! * Steve :) Pole sana.... frustration galore Now what do guys think of TDi engines. Their fuel economy stats looks fascinating... Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com * SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. * Get a .ke @ 2900/- a year VAT incl. @ pct.co.ke On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Ashford Maina <kuriashford@gmail.com>wrote:
Short summary Factors to consider
- Engine efficiency: how much fuel to how much power. - Transmission Efficiency: power delivery from engine to road. - Aerodynamics: how hard is it to move forward faster. - Weight: manufacturers estimate over actual weight now. - Transmission design: is it for speed e.g.CLK tops at 320kmph or power e.g. H2 tops at 180kmph (same engine size). - Manufacturers intention: e.g. Bugati over Prius. - Driving Style: - Wear and Tear: especialy in the Engine, Transmission and suspension.
**
*Top gear also did another trial where they tested a Toyota Prius 1500 cc with a BMW cant remember the engine size, so Jeremy was to drive the BMW and just keep up with the Toyota turns out the Toyota actually consumed more, he concluded " its not the engine size or the car, its how you drive"*
This episode started with Jeramey racing all the big sport cars on 1 gallon of fuel and it resulted with Ferrari being worst and Audi being most efficient (Actually overlapped the Ferrari).
The lesson behind the Prius test was how you drive. for example take the comon driver and ask them Toyota 1.6 and a Merc 1.6 which consumes more (vague question) all will settle on Toyota, try the same with a larger engine and toyota will be wrong. In reality taking all factors into consideration especialy vehicle power and weight Merc is more efficient but whe you look at Kilometers per litre their is a different scale.
Vehicle efficiency is best at cruising speed this is the highest speed the car can do on low revs and a high gear without losing speed. usualy 3rd gear at about 90kmph.
Small engines are more economical at low speeds e.g Vitz, Big Engines are more economical at high speeds e.g. (Pick any). Engine size is relative to power which is bound on Engine Type Have to mention Marda RX8 is only 1500cc but is competition for the Porsche at 3000cc coz its a rotary engine and consumes like a 3000cc,
To answer the original question how efficient is 2500cc, google the make and model of the car not the engine. also consider the extras that come with the engine e.g. EFI, VVTi, Turbo, SC, e.t.c
Ashford K. Maina,
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2009/6/24 Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com>
2009/6/24 Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com>
[...]
and I have proved that if you drive moderately and let it pick speed gently then I save on fuel ... I know you get the drift
Totally true. Alfa Romeo Owners Club have an annual Economy Run to Naivasha which demonstrates this. Was held the other weekend and was quite annoying especially after the end of the dual carriageway, since I wasn't doing any economy driving myself!
Maintenance plays a big role. Worn piston rings, old spark plugs or simply a clogged air filter are examples of stuff that will definitely ramp up your consumption, but driving style is definitely a major contributor to good/bad consumption.
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Josiah, the diesel topic.. :-) here goes ( promise to keep it very short ) : - precise tuned swiss watch mechanisms, use compression to ignite mixture. Diesels are 2 types, indirect injection ( the famous bedford lorries that go uphill on first gear and run out of breath if overloaded or the fiat trucks that managed 1 million kms mileage) and direct injection ( the famous monster isuzu buses that once roamed our highways at 100mph fully loaded with a unique engine braking exhaust valve system ). - Turbo diesel injection ( noisy engines ). Direct injection with lowered compression ratio, dome shaped pistons to create turbulence Extremely efficient engines and quality of our diesel has also improved. Engines suffer from blowby gases. These gases are impure and cause problems with inter-cooler and turbo bearing gumming. Turbo induction also creates hotspots within combustion chamber and correction to diesel impurities important. Correct engine oil is a solution, some even use synthetic. - Turbo diesel electronic fuel injection ( silent engines ). Very Complex engines. Extreme Oil pressure is the core. concept similar to EFI petrol engines. Isuzu 3.0 tdefi engines can have upto 6 engine management sytems. - Le Mans : Diesel competition engines are now getting better and giving petrol engines a run for their money. I could not resist this one so adding it. In my opinion, the world's most unique engine ever built but racing politics would kill its future development. JUST LISTEN TO IT, ALL I CAN SAY. 4 rotors giving 12 power strokes per crank cycle ( like a V12 normal engine ). No valves, no cams, no nothing. The engine revs with a feather touch of the throttles. Watch the guy in this video use a sequential gearbox. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BWv7iPFUg
2.5 Liter as indicated above is the total engine volumetric capacity. It means that when the engine runs, it "ingests" an air / fuel mixture of 2,500ml for a complete cycle. (where all the cylinders have fired.). The Terminologies? This means power output will vary depending on the efficiency of the engine, which basically means how much more power the vehicle can generate with a certain quantity of fuel. Which is where the technologies like VVTI, EFI and Carburettor compete, - trying to generate as much power as possible. Power output? a 2.5 liter engine will give varied power output depending on the fuel injection technique, Keeping the fuel constant and varying the technology will enable you to determine that carb , EFI, VVTI will be the order of efficiency. Meaning that for a fixed engine capacity, you MAY get more mileage from a VVTI than an EFI, than carb. Similarly, you may get more mileage from a 2.5l efi than a 3.0 l carb because it is efficient. Other Factors: Once the engine power is dealt with, we are left contending with the vehicle baggage. Weight, aerodynamic properties, tyre and road conditions and so on and so forth. Conclusion? Get the car, fill it up and drive along mombasa road untill you run out of fuel. noting the readings on the odometer. youll get to know the consumption and compute your kilometers per liter. Also, engine condition, rings , oil, efficiency ...e.tc have an effect on overall efficiency. On 6/24/09, Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc.
GA
2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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So do you guys think that Michael Schumacher was the Stig or it was just a public relations campaign by the BBC? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
2.5 Liter as indicated above is the total engine volumetric capacity. It means that when the engine runs, it "ingests" an air / fuel mixture of 2,500ml for a complete cycle. (where all the cylinders have fired.).
The Terminologies? This means power output will vary depending on the efficiency of the engine, which basically means how much more power the vehicle can generate with a certain quantity of fuel. Which is where the technologies like VVTI, EFI and Carburettor compete, - trying to generate as much power as possible.
Power output? a 2.5 liter engine will give varied power output depending on the fuel injection technique, Keeping the fuel constant and varying the technology will enable you to determine that carb , EFI, VVTI will be the order of efficiency. Meaning that for a fixed engine capacity, you MAY get more mileage from a VVTI than an EFI, than carb. Similarly, you may get more mileage from a 2.5l efi than a 3.0 l carb because it is efficient.
Other Factors: Once the engine power is dealt with, we are left contending with the vehicle baggage. Weight, aerodynamic properties, tyre and road conditions and so on and so forth.
Conclusion? Get the car, fill it up and drive along mombasa road untill you run out of fuel. noting the readings on the odometer. youll get to know the consumption and compute your kilometers per liter.
Also, engine condition, rings , oil, efficiency ...e.tc have an effect on overall efficiency.
On 6/24/09, Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc.
GA
2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed
of
a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for
bio
fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
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That Schumacher - Stig thing was just a hoax, I can never believe it!!!! ./Ok3ch On 6/24/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you guys think that Michael Schumacher was the Stig or it was just a public relations campaign by the BBC?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
2.5 Liter as indicated above is the total engine volumetric capacity. It means that when the engine runs, it "ingests" an air / fuel mixture of 2,500ml for a complete cycle. (where all the cylinders have fired.).
The Terminologies? This means power output will vary depending on the efficiency of the engine, which basically means how much more power the vehicle can generate with a certain quantity of fuel. Which is where the technologies like VVTI, EFI and Carburettor compete, - trying to generate as much power as possible.
Power output? a 2.5 liter engine will give varied power output depending on the fuel injection technique, Keeping the fuel constant and varying the technology will enable you to determine that carb , EFI, VVTI will be the order of efficiency. Meaning that for a fixed engine capacity, you MAY get more mileage from a VVTI than an EFI, than carb. Similarly, you may get more mileage from a 2.5l efi than a 3.0 l carb because it is efficient.
Other Factors: Once the engine power is dealt with, we are left contending with the vehicle baggage. Weight, aerodynamic properties, tyre and road conditions and so on and so forth.
Conclusion? Get the car, fill it up and drive along mombasa road untill you run out of fuel. noting the readings on the odometer. youll get to know the consumption and compute your kilometers per liter.
Also, engine condition, rings , oil, efficiency ...e.tc have an effect on overall efficiency.
On 6/24/09, Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc.
GA
2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were actually testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for bio fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when farming. [?] All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
-- christiano kwena +254722243459
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-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
George Bernard Shaw
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True true, Methinks they are just trying to throw people off. I believe it still is Ben Collins. Stunt driver for Mike Craig, the new 007. Schu couldnt make all that time from Season 3 till now away from F1 to test drive cars around the TG track. On 6/24/09, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
That Schumacher - Stig thing was just a hoax, I can never believe it!!!!
./Ok3ch
On 6/24/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
So do you guys think that Michael Schumacher was the Stig or it was just a public relations campaign by the BBC?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
2.5 Liter as indicated above is the total engine volumetric capacity. It means that when the engine runs, it "ingests" an air / fuel mixture of 2,500ml for a complete cycle. (where all the cylinders have fired.).
The Terminologies? This means power output will vary depending on the efficiency of the engine, which basically means how much more power the vehicle can generate with a certain quantity of fuel. Which is where the technologies like VVTI, EFI and Carburettor compete, - trying to generate as much power as possible.
Power output? a 2.5 liter engine will give varied power output depending on the fuel injection technique, Keeping the fuel constant and varying the technology will enable you to determine that carb , EFI, VVTI will be the order of efficiency. Meaning that for a fixed engine capacity, you MAY get more mileage from a VVTI than an EFI, than carb. Similarly, you may get more mileage from a 2.5l efi than a 3.0 l carb because it is efficient.
Other Factors: Once the engine power is dealt with, we are left contending with the vehicle baggage. Weight, aerodynamic properties, tyre and road conditions and so on and so forth.
Conclusion? Get the car, fill it up and drive along mombasa road untill you run out of fuel. noting the readings on the odometer. youll get to know the consumption and compute your kilometers per liter.
Also, engine condition, rings , oil, efficiency ...e.tc have an effect on overall efficiency.
On 6/24/09, Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com> wrote:
Pls do not forget to factor in the weight of the car, top speed, aerodynamics, tyre size. Also consider whether deflectors are being used and spoilers are installed, top speed, etc etc.
GA
2009/6/24 christiano kwena <christianokwena@googlemail.com>
Once again thank you all for your contributions. If i get to geneticaly modify my kales & amaranthus to mature in 3 weeks, I'll need the speed of a ferrari to do the rounds on a 15ha piece of land. LOL
On 6/24/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Brian Lusiola <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote: > > Since you said you watch top gear, there is an episode they were > actually > testing farm machinery on a farm where they were growing plants for > bio > fuel...I am not so sure either season 10 or 11 > bottom line they found out speed is not essentially efficiency when > farming. [?] > All the best.
Now I think I can "see" what stuff skunks would be discussing during their social evenings:-)
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
-- christiano kwena +254722243459
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George Bernard Shaw
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participants (15)
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aki -
Areba Collins -
Ashford Maina -
Brian Lusiola -
christiano kwena -
Dennis Kioko -
Garum -
Josiah Mugambi -
Ken Simiyu -
nyarotho kennedy -
Odhiambo ワシントン -
Okechukwu -
Philip Musyoki -
Steve Muchai -
Watson Kambo