GPS locations of mobile phone base stations

I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that? Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com

well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api *http://www.opencellid.org/api* <http://www.opencellid.org/api> i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api.. 2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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Thanks Jude. It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps. Erik Hersman On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote:
well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api
i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api..
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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yea, then make it into an API where we could have a development community making use of the API to provide location based services. 2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
Thanks Jude. It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps.
Erik Hersman
On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote:
well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api
*http://www.opencellid.org/api* <http://www.opencellid.org/api>
i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api..
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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Once had an API in python that could query base stations, i think part of the Info it returned was its location, let me try to install it on my New phone and get the data again. Ashford K. Maina, Laurence J. Peter<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/laurence_j_peter.html> - "If two wrongs don't make a right, try three." 2009/6/24 jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com>
yea, then make it into an API where we could have a development community making use of the API to provide location based services.
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
Thanks Jude. It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps.
Erik Hersman
On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote:
well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api
*http://www.opencellid.org/api* <http://www.opencellid.org/api>
i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api..
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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Hi.. ashford please tell.. i am interested in that api.. also the fact that it is in python.. 2009/6/24 Ashford Maina <kuriashford@gmail.com>
Once had an API in python that could query base stations, i think part of the Info it returned was its location, let me try to install it on my New phone and get the data again.
Ashford K. Maina,
Laurence J. Peter<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/laurence_j_peter.html> - "If two wrongs don't make a right, try three."
2009/6/24 jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com>
yea, then make it into an API where we could have a development community
making use of the API to provide location based services.
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
Thanks Jude. It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps.
Erik Hersman
On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote:
well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api
*http://www.opencellid.org/api* <http://www.opencellid.org/api>
i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api..
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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Its possible to get locations on mobiles phones using the Symbian SDKs (S60 & UIQ). The S60 3rd and 5th edition SDKs have got this capability. Steve Obbayi Tel: +1 202 470 0575 cell: +254 722 627691 _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of jude mwenda Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:50 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] GPS locations of mobile phone base stations Hi.. ashford please tell.. i am interested in that api.. also the fact that it is in python.. 2009/6/24 Ashford Maina <kuriashford@gmail.com> Once had an API in python that could query base stations, i think part of the Info it returned was its location, let me try to install it on my New phone and get the data again. Ashford K. Maina, Laurence <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/laurence_j_peter.html> J. Peter - "If two wrongs don't make a right, try three." 2009/6/24 jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com> yea, then make it into an API where we could have a development community making use of the API to provide location based services. 2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> Thanks Jude. It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps. Erik Hersman On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote: well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api <http://www.opencellid.org/api> http://www.opencellid.org/api i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api.. 2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com> I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that? Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards Jude Mwenda "Was ist mein Leben, wenn ich nicht mehr nützlich für andere." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards Jude Mwenda "Was ist mein Leben, wenn ich nicht mehr nützlich für andere." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards Jude Mwenda "Was ist mein Leben, wenn ich nicht mehr nützlich für andere." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Is it possible to do this query [of base station GPS coordinates] without the operator blocking you ? Cos the way we know operators, the moment they whiff a use that could be applied in an application - there come the charges :( !

Sorry , only availabe to Norway and Sweden. 2009/6/24 jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com>
yea, then make it into an API where we could have a development community making use of the API to provide location based services.
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
Thanks Jude.
It would be interesting if we could keep an open running database of that for at least Nairobi. It could power a lot of location based apps.
Erik Hersman
On Jun 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM, jude mwenda wrote:
well, i do not know of anyone but this could be of help. http://www.opencellid.org/ it also has an api
*http://www.opencellid.org/api* <http://www.opencellid.org/api>
i like it. well occasionally the providers switch the cell tower id's. so i do not know if the update is reflected on the api..
2009/6/23 Erik Hersman <erik@zungu.com>
I heard a rumor about someone getting the GPS locations for the towers (base stations) for the mobile operators in Kenya. Anyone know anything about that?
Erik Hersman www.AfriGadget.com www.WhiteAfrican.com
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Ashford Maina
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Erik Hersman
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jude mwenda
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ndungu stephen
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Steve Obbayi