SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
If this is actually true .... This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across.. And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ??? Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves... Can anyone confirm this ??
Haha, Its the only move that safcom can make to avoid acting as the platform for zain numbers spreading. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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this is unbelievable :-) does this mean that safcom are actually scared of the impact of this tarrif to them?? khe khe kheeeee!! am totally buying a Zain line now :-) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Haha, Its the only move that safcom can make to avoid acting as the platform for zain numbers spreading.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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The calls are still blocked!! wat is the email address to ktn, ntv, citizen, k24? This should be on all the business news tonight!! -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
Just dialled 100 (and got through!) haiya! And then asked very innocently: "Naweza nunua simcard ya zain wapi?" The pause on the other end was priceless! I think the lady on the other end is really frustrated by such calls I did not wait to hear what the reply was..... Safcom wamepata kiboko! Sam On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Haha, Its the only move that safcom can make to avoid acting as the platform for zain numbers spreading.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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Am really enjoying this :) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Samuel Wachira <wachirasam@gmail.com>wrote:
Just dialled 100 (and got through!) haiya!
And then asked very innocently: "Naweza nunua simcard ya zain wapi?"
The pause on the other end was priceless! I think the lady on the other end is really frustrated by such calls
I did not wait to hear what the reply was.....
Safcom wamepata kiboko!
Sam
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com>wrote:
Haha, Its the only move that safcom can make to avoid acting as the platform for zain numbers spreading.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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Did you use a zain line?? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ruth Were <nafuna@gmail.com> wrote:
Am really enjoying this :)
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Samuel Wachira <wachirasam@gmail.com>wrote:
Just dialled 100 (and got through!) haiya!
And then asked very innocently: "Naweza nunua simcard ya zain wapi?"
The pause on the other end was priceless! I think the lady on the other end is really frustrated by such calls
I did not wait to hear what the reply was.....
Safcom wamepata kiboko!
Sam
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM, solomon kariri <solomonkariri@gmail.com
wrote:
Haha, Its the only move that safcom can make to avoid acting as the platform for zain numbers spreading.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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All my calls to safcome users are going through, and come to think of it this does not make sense since they'll be getting interconnect fees from Zain to complete the call the KES. 2.12 It also doesn't make sense to block calls to Zain either, because they are getting KES 12 from the subscriber and only remitting 2.12 to Zain or any other interconnect partners.
From a purely commercial point of view, I do not think this "finding" is accurate.
Kiania On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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David I mentioned this began at 6pm yesterday !!!! On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
All my calls to safcome users are going through, and come to think of it this does not make sense since they'll be getting interconnect fees from Zain to complete the call the KES. 2.12
It also doesn't make sense to block calls to Zain either, because they are getting KES 12 from the subscriber and only remitting 2.12 to Zain or any other interconnect partners.
From a purely commercial point of view, I do not think this "finding" is accurate.
Kiania
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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I called the zain customer care immediately upon failing on several attempts - and the person on the other end said that "safcom" had blocked their calls.. and they reported the matter to CCK.. I am not sure I was supposed to know this :-) . Anyway, i think it should be fixed now - hoping it was congestion and not a block...
Perhaps for once Zain was congested? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
I called the zain customer care immediately upon failing on several attempts - and the person on the other end said that "safcom" had blocked their calls.. and they reported the matter to CCK..
I am not sure I was supposed to know this :-) .
Anyway, i think it should be fixed now - hoping it was congestion and not a block...
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Calls to Telkom too?? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps for once Zain was congested?
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
I called the zain customer care immediately upon failing on several attempts - and the person on the other end said that "safcom" had blocked their calls.. and they reported the matter to CCK..
I am not sure I was supposed to know this :-) .
Anyway, i think it should be fixed now - hoping it was congestion and not a block...
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Hi, The network has not been blocked, i can call across to any network Regards On 8/19/10, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
If this is actually true ....
This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across..
And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ???
Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves...
Can anyone confirm this ??
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Ok, Lets look at the scenario more critically.... Lets us say there are some billionaires who wants to build a huge complex, they come to your architectural firm for you guys to design for them the complex. Your architectural firm conducts the estimates and says the plans will cost 14million KES. Meanwhile, another group of Riveroad architectures ('riveroad is used as a pun) - gets wind of the news that the billionaires want some designs done - and make an offer to draw the designs at "Ksh. 200,000". The first architectural firm has about 50 employees, and most of them graduates of diplomas or degrees earning a regular high salary. The Riveroad firm will pull some old design and hire a guy on about 50k contract. (am not comparing Zain to this firm, am just citing the way prices are driven down) == Safcom is pissed because they probably believe in the above anectodal. Again " http://cio.co.ke/view-all-main-stories/1615-zain-accuses-safaricom-of-unfair... "
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Alvin Jason Ochieng -
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Davis Waithaka -
ndungu stephen -
Phares Kariuki -
pithon kamau -
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Samuel Wachira -
solomon kariri