Me too. For Those shipping in Kenya, kindly advice the zip code you're using. I tried 254 and was not accepted. J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 8:49 AM, "Kevin Mutuma via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Has anyone here tried the shipping to Kenya? Would be interested to hear how the experience was.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Muya via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/amazon-now-ships-to-nigeria-nigerians-react/...

./muya

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@./Ok3ch, Thanks for the heads up. Been sending my items to a US address and have someone bring them over to Nairobi. This is very good news to me. Just wondering how we could get detailed information on items that are taxable and the tax we expect to pay. A listing of non-taxable items would also be helpful especially if available online. Rgds, James Kagwe On Oct 8, 2015 9:16 AM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

I think you guys mean that Amazon is now shipping electronics to Kenya - I have been shipping other stuff from Amazon to Kenya since early 2000 till now. Its only electronics which have never been allowed to be shipped to Kenya.

@Kagwe - I always use 00100 as zip code everywhere, not just at Amazon and it works since you first identified yourself as outside the US

./Ok3ch

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...

Me too. For Those shipping in Kenya, kindly advice the zip code you're using. I tried 254 and was not accepted.

J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 8:49 AM, "Kevin Mutuma via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Has anyone here tried the shipping to Kenya? Would be interested to hear how the experience was.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Muya via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/amazon-now-ships-to-nigeria-nigerians-react/...

./muya

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How can you compare Amazon rates with African Salhiya? Bravo

On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I am so going to try this out soon!

...

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, James Kagwe via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: @./Ok3ch, Thanks for the heads up. Been sending my items to a US address and have someone bring them over to Nairobi. This is very good news to me.

Just wondering how we could get detailed information on items that are taxable and the tax we expect to pay. A listing of non-taxable items would also be helpful especially if available online.

Rgds, James Kagwe

...

On Oct 8, 2015 9:16 AM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: I think you guys mean that Amazon is now shipping electronics to Kenya - I have been shipping other stuff from Amazon to Kenya since early 2000 till now. Its only electronics which have never been allowed to be shipped to Kenya.

@Kagwe - I always use 00100 as zip code everywhere, not just at Amazon and it works since you first identified yourself as outside the US

./Ok3ch

...

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:12 AM, James Kagwe via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Me too. For Those shipping in Kenya, kindly advice the zip code you're using. I tried 254 and was not accepted.

J@m3s

...

On Oct 8, 2015 8:49 AM, "Kevin Mutuma via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Has anyone here tried the shipping to Kenya? Would be interested to hear how the experience was.

...

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Muya via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/amazon-now-ships-to-nigeria-nigerians-react/...

./muya

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@John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly become deliverable. Tony.

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database. Tony.

Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Tony,

that will happen in vision 3030 maybe .

KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day One !

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

...

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database.

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Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I found this link <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> useful.

[image: image] <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/>

How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will this have on t... View on techcabal.com <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Preview by Yahoo

Regards, Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Tony,

that will happen in vision 3030 maybe .

KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day One !

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database.

Tony.

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Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document :-) On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I found this link <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> useful.

[image: image] <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/>

How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will this have on t... View on techcabal.com <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Preview by Yahoo

Regards, Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Tony,

that will happen in vision 3030 maybe .

KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day One !

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database.

Tony.

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Just tried [image: Inline image 1] R D On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Alvin.. my namesake has done a noble thing by pointing us to a temporary fix.. we need a permanent one. :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I found this link <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> useful.

[image: image] <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/>

How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will this have on t... View on techcabal.com <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Preview by Yahoo

Regards, Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Tony,

that will happen in vision 3030 maybe .

KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day One !

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database.

Tony.

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Have often thought as Skunks we should have a trust system where if someone is travelling to the US, they can be sent 2-3 small items to deliver when back. Of course the courier would get something, maybe an amazon gift card, or something of the sort. It would round-robin so everyone gets a chance. There would of course be limitations to size and weight, and if customs finds the item, then the buyer is liable for any taxes charged. etc etc Just an idea. Regards, John K. On 8 October 2015 at 14:37, James Kagwe via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Denis, Bought through US address and then it was hand delivered. You could consider that as we figure out what we may or may not be delivered directly.

J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Just tried [image: Inline image 1] R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Alvin.. my namesake has done a noble thing by pointing us to a temporary fix.. we need a permanent one. :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I found this link <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> useful.

[image: image] <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/>

How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will this have on t... View on techcabal.com <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> Preview by Yahoo

Regards, Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Tony,

that will happen in vision 3030 maybe .

KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day One !

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

*2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:*

*If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(*

The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive lookup chart/database.

Tony.

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Had plans to get a Kindle next week. Let's hope they fix this. Tony.

@Njiri Some time back they used not to charge duty on books. These days they do, I bought some books last month. Edward On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I have bought 2 Kindles in the past and both were delivered without a hitch in less than 4 days. Now i wanted to get one for someone and shock on me..

R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:42 PM, John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Have often thought as Skunks we should have a trust system where if someone is travelling to the US, they can be sent 2-3 small items to deliver when back. Of course the courier would get something, maybe an amazon gift card, or something of the sort. It would round-robin so everyone gets a chance. There would of course be limitations to size and weight, and if customs finds the item, then the buyer is liable for any taxes charged. etc etc Just an idea.

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 14:37, James Kagwe via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Denis, Bought through US address and then it was hand delivered. You could consider that as we figure out what we may or may not be delivered directly.

J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Just tried [image: Inline image 1] R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Alvin.. my namesake has done a noble thing by pointing us to a temporary fix.. we need a permanent one. :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:

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Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

> Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and > Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we > want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here. > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys >> put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they >> would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can >> be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to >> Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box >> "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I >> found this link >> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >> useful. >> >> >> [image: image] >> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >> >> >> >> >> >> How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... >> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, >> Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will >> this have on t... >> View on techcabal.com >> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >> Preview by Yahoo >> >> >> Regards, >> Patrick >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >> >> Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for small >> stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient >> On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >> Tony, >> >> that will happen in vision 3030 maybe . >> >> KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day >> One ! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >> >> *2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com >> <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:* >> >> *If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you >> straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no >> additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back >> to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will >> probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(* >> >> >> The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) >> inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes >> the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive >> lookup chart/database. >> >> Tony. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ALVIN OCHOLA >> 0722-313923 >> www.greenline.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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I think even with their opening up more countries to ship to, you still need to adjust your search as below. Not all the vendors will ship to Kenya. [image: Inline image 1] Regards, Alex On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Edward Mayaka via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

@Njiri Some time back they used not to charge duty on books. These days they do, I bought some books last month.

Edward

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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I have bought 2 Kindles in the past and both were delivered without a hitch in less than 4 days. Now i wanted to get one for someone and shock on me..

R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:42 PM, John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Have often thought as Skunks we should have a trust system where if someone is travelling to the US, they can be sent 2-3 small items to deliver when back. Of course the courier would get something, maybe an amazon gift card, or something of the sort. It would round-robin so everyone gets a chance. There would of course be limitations to size and weight, and if customs finds the item, then the buyer is liable for any taxes charged. etc etc Just an idea.

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 14:37, James Kagwe via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Denis, Bought through US address and then it was hand delivered. You could consider that as we figure out what we may or may not be delivered directly.

J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Just tried [image: Inline image 1] R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Alvin.. my namesake has done a noble thing by pointing us to a temporary fix.. we need a permanent one. :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document > :-) > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and >> Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we >> want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here. >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys >>> put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they >>> would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can >>> be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to >>> Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box >>> "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I >>> found this link >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> useful. >>> >>> >>> [image: image] >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, >>> Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will >>> this have on t... >>> View on techcabal.com >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> Preview by Yahoo >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for >>> small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient >>> On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Tony, >>> >>> that will happen in vision 3030 maybe . >>> >>> KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day >>> One ! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> *2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com >>> <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:* >>> >>> *If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you >>> straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no >>> additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back >>> to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will >>> probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(* >>> >>> >>> The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) >>> inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes >>> the transaction. They need to have a publicly-accessible comprehensive >>> lookup chart/database. >>> >>> Tony. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ALVIN OCHOLA >>> 0722-313923 >>> www.greenline.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > ALVIN OCHOLA > 0722-313923 > www.greenline.co.ke >

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Seems, creating a new address has worked. My previous Nairobi address, was failing, creating a new one has worked. Import Fees Deposit: $17. Anyone know how the $17 import fee is calculated? [image: Inline images 1] Regards, John K. On 8 October 2015 at 16:39, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Cool! I hadn't verified the claims about the Kindle no longer shipping to Kenya. Looks like there's nothing to worry, then.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QJDU3KY?country=KE&redirect=true

Tony.

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John, Let us know how this will end especially delivery time, tax and other costs if any. J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 5:35 PM, "John K. via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Seems, creating a new address has worked. My previous Nairobi address, was failing, creating a new one has worked.

Import Fees Deposit: $17. Anyone know how the $17 import fee is calculated?

[image: Inline images 1]

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 16:39, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Cool! I hadn't verified the claims about the Kindle no longer shipping to Kenya. Looks like there's nothing to worry, then.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QJDU3KY?country=KE&redirect=true

Tony.

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Here's the challenge I'm facing : - I filter out goods that are eligible for shipping to Kenya, then add them onto my cart eg : This Paperwhite Kindle <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QJDU3KY?country=KE&redirect=true> - When I proceed to checkout.... BAM! The very same goods cannot be shipped outside the US. - Recreating my shipping address doesn't help either. Anyone with recent successes in orderging the Kindle? @John K, will you be kind enough to cross check if purchasing the above Kindle (or any other Kindle) works fine for you, all the way to checkout? Tony.

[image: Inline image 1] Strange ... On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Edward Mayaka via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

@Njiri Some time back they used not to charge duty on books. These days they do, I bought some books last month.

Edward

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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I have bought 2 Kindles in the past and both were delivered without a hitch in less than 4 days. Now i wanted to get one for someone and shock on me..

R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:42 PM, John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Have often thought as Skunks we should have a trust system where if someone is travelling to the US, they can be sent 2-3 small items to deliver when back. Of course the courier would get something, maybe an amazon gift card, or something of the sort. It would round-robin so everyone gets a chance. There would of course be limitations to size and weight, and if customs finds the item, then the buyer is liable for any taxes charged. etc etc Just an idea.

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 14:37, James Kagwe via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Denis, Bought through US address and then it was hand delivered. You could consider that as we figure out what we may or may not be delivered directly.

J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Denis G. Wahome via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Just tried [image: Inline image 1] R

D

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Alvin.. my namesake has done a noble thing by pointing us to a temporary fix.. we need a permanent one. :-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng < ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick... your namesake Patrick is not the author of the document > :-) > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Patrick... we don't want to be lumped as "them Kenyans and >> Nigerians" when purchasing items from Amazon in a global marketplace..we >> want in for most items, that is until they setup shop here. >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> I think what has not been coming out clear here is that when guys >>> put up their stuff on sale on amazon, they have an option of whether they >>> would ship to Kenya/Nigeria or not. That said, not everything you buy can >>> be shipped.. The way to display only those products that can be shipped to >>> Kenya/ Nigeria is through refining your search BEFORE by checking the box >>> "Ship to Kenya and Nigeria" and therefore order within those confines. I >>> found this link >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> useful. >>> >>> >>> [image: image] >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> How to Ship from Amazon to Nigeria and Kenya in 10 Eas... >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> Since the news broke that Amazon will now be shipping to Nigeria, >>> Kenya and 73 other countries, there have been reactions. What effect will >>> this have on t... >>> View on techcabal.com >>> <http://techcabal.com/2015/10/06/how-to-ship-from-amazon-to-nigeria-in-10-steps/> >>> Preview by Yahoo >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 1:07 PM, Benson Maina via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Not with amazon... Personally buy and use registered mail for >>> small stuff.... For major the Eistliegh folk they are very efficient >>> On Oct 8, 2015 11:56 AM, "Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks" < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Tony, >>> >>> that will happen in vision 3030 maybe . >>> >>> KRA have been a thorn in the flesh for us bulk importers from Day >>> One ! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> *2015-10-08 11:18 GMT+03:00 John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com >>> <kamau.john@gmail.com>>:* >>> >>> *If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you >>> straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no >>> additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back >>> to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will >>> probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(* >>> >>> >>> The biggest challenge with KRA is their (deliberate?) >>> inconsistency. It seems like Duty always varies, depending on who processes >>> the transaction. 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Skunks ! The big question is here are we after ''evading taxes'' ? :-) On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

@John K, you are absolutely right.

A friend just tried ordering for a RaspberryPi kit, from amazon the total cost is coming to $167, but if the same kit is purchased from UK and shipped in via "friends and family", the cost is 8k.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(

Regards, John K.

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@John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly become deliverable.

Tony.

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Hi guys, Its probably me who needs help here but i have tried ordering an ASUS detachable transformer book and upon entering my details and with code as 00100, still says cant ship outside US, unless i increase the qty. The unit price is 186USD. Anything i need to know? Am in Thika not Nairobi. Patrick Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:14:28 To: Peter Karunyu<pkarunyu@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Now Ships to Nigeria and Kenya _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Kakai.. If you purchase an Item on aliexpress you don't get to pay as much in shipping because a strategic partnership is in place between PCK's courier services and China Post EMS, ofcourse its always disappointing that the costs have to be calculated manually when collecting your items at the post office but it works! If the same partnerships are formed with say, USPS then it would cost us less to purchase from the US online marketplace. This would leave DHL racking their brains on more value add options to increase their customer base. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Kakai Eugene via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Patrick,

Buying should be from the Amazon Global Page. It should work. On Oct 8, 2015 12:42 PM, "Patrick Mathenge via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Hi guys, Its probably me who needs help here but i have tried ordering an ASUS detachable transformer book and upon entering my details and with code as 00100, still says cant ship outside US, unless i increase the qty. The unit price is 186USD. Anything i need to know? Am in Thika not Nairobi.

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If the taxes were clear, available especially online and not exorbitant then the need to evade taxes would be reduced. After all we have to pay taxes to pay our greedy politicians. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Skunks !

The big question is here are we after ''evading taxes'' ?

:-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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@John K, you are absolutely right.

A friend just tried ordering for a RaspberryPi kit, from amazon the total cost is coming to $167, but if the same kit is purchased from UK and shipped in via "friends and family", the cost is 8k.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 11:14, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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@John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly become deliverable.

Tony.

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I have personally bought Books severally and they are delivered in my post office box without any VAT. I have not yet bought any electronic device from them. The parcel arrives earlier than the stipulated time. Njiri John On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I agree the taxes must be a headache to understand if you haven't gone through the process before alone.

KRA details are scanty but if you prod them hard enough they have a list with like ICT items showing duty/ IDF costs in % which may be a big help.

We have 2 qualified guys who do our imports but looking at those charts just gives me a crazy migraine.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

If the taxes were clear, available especially online and not exorbitant then the need to evade taxes would be reduced.

After all we have to pay taxes to pay our greedy politicians.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Skunks !

The big question is here are we after ''evading taxes'' ?

:-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

@John K, you are absolutely right.

A friend just tried ordering for a RaspberryPi kit, from amazon the total cost is coming to $167, but if the same kit is purchased from UK and shipped in via "friends and family", the cost is 8k.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(

Regards, John K.

On 8 October 2015 at 11:14, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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@John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly become deliverable.

Tony.

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Dennis, For books, consider investing in a kindle. I have paperwhite using natural light (not back lit) thus doesn't hurt the eyes. This allows you to procure kindle editions instead of hard copies. It's cheaper and instant. Very convenient for those who like reading. You can alternatively install the kindle app from Amazon on your Android tablet or even windows laptop which works in the same way. Only that if you're an ardent reader it'll hurt your eyes. J@m3s On Oct 8, 2015 12:55 PM, "Dennis Kioko via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I once tried buying books and shipping here. Shipping cost was about KSh. 2,000 - KSh. 4,000. Almost as much as the books cost.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:48 Njiri John via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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I have personally bought Books severally and they are delivered in my post office box without any VAT. I have not yet bought any electronic device from them. The parcel arrives earlier than the stipulated time.

Njiri John

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

I agree the taxes must be a headache to understand if you haven't gone through the process before alone.

KRA details are scanty but if you prod them hard enough they have a list with like ICT items showing duty/ IDF costs in % which may be a big help.

We have 2 qualified guys who do our imports but looking at those charts just gives me a crazy migraine.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

If the taxes were clear, available especially online and not exorbitant then the need to evade taxes would be reduced.

After all we have to pay taxes to pay our greedy politicians.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Skunks !

The big question is here are we after ''evading taxes'' ?

:-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

@John K, you are absolutely right.

A friend just tried ordering for a RaspberryPi kit, from amazon the total cost is coming to $167, but if the same kit is purchased from UK and shipped in via "friends and family", the cost is 8k.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

> If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight > from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees > that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using > "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably > increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :( > > Regards, > John K. > > On 8 October 2015 at 11:14, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> @John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change >> the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly >> become deliverable. >> >> Tony. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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To quote the DHL Kenya country MD "..traders are also being subjected to numerous charges of up to six different type of fees which contributes to high cost of imported goods in the country. Some of the charges include Import Duty, VAT, what he terms as government fees, Kenya Airport Authority (KAA) fee, Kenya Bureau of Standards (KEBS) and the newly introduced 1.5percent Standard Gauge Railway levy. “What happens is that your Sh3,000 items now becomes Sh12,000 item at the end of the day and that is before you pay for any transport. So what this means, one will prefer flying to Dubai, put a lot of stuff the suitcase and bring them here and the chances of you being stopped at the customs is very slim” Basically the costs of importing are just too high. Which is counterproductive since people end up importing substandard but affordable items. In the end the country becomes a dumping pit On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Njiri John via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I have personally bought Books severally and they are delivered in my post office box without any VAT. I have not yet bought any electronic device from them. The parcel arrives earlier than the stipulated time.

Njiri John

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

I agree the taxes must be a headache to understand if you haven't gone through the process before alone.

KRA details are scanty but if you prod them hard enough they have a list with like ICT items showing duty/ IDF costs in % which may be a big help.

We have 2 qualified guys who do our imports but looking at those charts just gives me a crazy migraine.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

If the taxes were clear, available especially online and not exorbitant then the need to evade taxes would be reduced.

After all we have to pay taxes to pay our greedy politicians.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Skunks !

The big question is here are we after ''evading taxes'' ?

:-)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

@John K, you are absolutely right.

A friend just tried ordering for a RaspberryPi kit, from amazon the total cost is coming to $167, but if the same kit is purchased from UK and shipped in via "friends and family", the cost is 8k.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(

Regards, John K.

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Postal Corporation of Kenya's courier services ---------->>>>>> http://www.royalmail.com/business/segment/marketplace On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

If they manage to strike a deal with KRA where they tax you straight from amazon and you just pick the goods from posta with no additional fees that'll be great. However, it means we'll probably go back to using "friends & family shipping" as our VAT and Duty rates will probably increase the cost of goods by almost 50% for most stuff. :(

Regards, John K.

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@John, yeah, most probably an incomplete rollout. When you change the delivery address to some Nigerian destination, the goods suddenly become deliverable.

Tony.

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