New subject: [Skunkworks] Visa card for Online Transaction?

27 Apr 2011

      Thanks.

8~)

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StanChart Excel banking comes with a free international debit card. I use it all the time to transact online when I feel loaded, otherwise i use credit cards.

./Ok3ch

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On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:05, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Thanks Denis,
Is there a bank that allows online Transactions with their Debit card without jumping through 1000 hoops? Can anyone share on KCB and Equity?
O_O

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    1. Re: iPhones secretly tracking their users? +Android    too!
       (John Gitau)
    2. Mick Wilson/UNEP/NBO/UNO is on mission (Mick Wilson)
    3. IPv6 UG (Phares Kariuki)
    4. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Denis G. Wahome)
    5. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Paul Kevin)
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:30:41 +0300
From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] iPhones secretly tracking their users?
     +Android    too!
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hmm...Kinuthia, I agree and sort of disagree with you on who has
access to the technologies. True, the biggest beneficiaries are
governments.
The trick here is to figure out the motivation behind trying to
'crack' the security or lack of it. Who would have imagined trying to
crack standard 802.xx wireless networks in the past. GSM hardware is
slowly becoming commoditized. You are now using gsm/umts to do
millions in transactions from Mpesa to ATM's....currently you can get
firmware for a baseband processor, FREE, you can build in your house
today a small gsm network for tests or whatever, for less than 1000
USD...my point is...don't ignore this (well you cant do much about it,
but have it at the back of your mind) - and if a criminal, ditch the
cellphone:-)....the ATM you go to is probably using GSM/UMTS:-), so is
your MPESA and whatever mobile money transfer you use....
You still think there's no motivation to invest in this stuff....:-)
JGitau
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
<kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
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On a similar note, a very interesting account of the Athens Affair, for
those who maybe patient to read through. Goes to show what can be done by a
determined person;
http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/security/the-athens-affair/1
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>
wrote:
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The A5/1 crack is not a theory, it's a reality and those guys in that link
demonstrated this sometime last yr. However, what was apparent was that to
achieve an actual tap is a very complicated and expensive affair, so much so
that to exploit it in any meaningful way would require organized entities
with unlimited resources (such as government security agencies). Infact, not
far fetched conjecture
within industry circles has always suggested that all the current A5/* GSM
ciphering algorithms were cracked long ago by some agencies (Mossad is a
prime suspect), its just that it's not in the public domain.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, John Adams <adams.opiyo@gmail.com> wrote:
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That makes this guys theory correct...that A/51 encryption is a
toast!....:)...this could be the next big infiltration point....
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:38 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
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actually its not just androids and Iphones, any phone with gps can
'track' you...Im not sure how much info you need but: but the US
several years back made it a requirement that cellphones making 911
calls also send their locations or have the ability to avail it, this
was built into the baseband processor - the specs were defined on 3GPP
TS 04.31. the specification was called RRLP - radio resource location
services. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRLP
Unfortunately for you, this communication is not authenticated. RRLP
is to say the least one of the most dangerously open protocols out
there - ?gsm (well the baseband processor) is full of them -.
fortunately for you, people/governments are not interested in hacking
gsm networks and phones yet...if you're a criminal however....just use
that torch with a phone:-)
Apple and Android probably just have apps sitting on top of this, but
all gps enabled gsm phones are a risky affair...steve if you need more
details on the baseband processor/gps and maybe a few papers you know
where to reach me..
JGitau
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
<kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I think if Android devices were found to be doing this it wont be much
of a
fuss, after all android has very strong open source thus geek
community
roots...this is normally taken as a shameless excuse to do all sorts
things
and get away with it :) :)..... But iPhone doing this kind of thing
after
some sort of rogue update and not declaring??? Walalalala!!....
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> On a lighter note, Windows and RIM have come out protesting that no
> one is
> bothering to find out if they are secretly tracking users. Both firms
> have
> promised to pay anyone?who?proves that they are?secretly?tracking
> users
> too.
> link not available
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