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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:22:07 +0300
From: Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Visa card for Online Transaction?
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StanChart Excel banking comes with a free international debit card. I use it all the time to transact online when I feel loaded, otherwise i use credit cards.

./Ok3ch

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On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:05, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks Denis,
>
> Is there a bank that allows online Transactions with their Debit card without jumping through 1000 hoops? Can anyone share on KCB and Equity?
>
> O_O
>
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: iPhones secretly tracking their users? +Android too!
>    (John Gitau)
> 2. Mick Wilson/UNEP/NBO/UNO is on mission (Mick Wilson)
> 3. IPv6 UG (Phares Kariuki)
> 4. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Denis G. Wahome)
> 5. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Paul Kevin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:30:41 +0300
> From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] iPhones secretly tracking their users?
>    +Android too!
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> hmm...Kinuthia, I agree and sort of disagree with you on who has
> access to the technologies. True, the biggest beneficiaries are
> governments.
>
> The trick here is to figure out the motivation behind trying to
> 'crack' the security or lack of it. Who would have imagined trying to
> crack standard 802.xx wireless networks in the past. GSM hardware is
> slowly becoming commoditized. You are now using gsm/umts to do
> millions in transactions from Mpesa to ATM's....currently you can get
> firmware for a baseband processor, FREE, you can build in your house
> today a small gsm network for tests or whatever, for less than 1000
> USD...my point is...don't ignore this (well you cant do much about it,
> but have it at the back of your mind) - and if a criminal, ditch the
> cellphone:-)....the ATM you go to is probably using GSM/UMTS:-), so is
> your MPESA and whatever mobile money transfer you use....
>
> You still think there's no motivation to invest in this stuff....:-)
>
> JGitau
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
> <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On a similar note, a very interesting account of the Athens Affair, for
> > those who maybe patient to read through. Goes to show what can be done by a
> > determined person;
> >
> > http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/security/the-athens-affair/1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The A5/1 crack is not a theory, it's a reality and those guys in that link
> >> demonstrated this sometime last yr. However, what was apparent was that to
> >> achieve an actual tap is a very complicated and expensive affair, so much so
> >> that to exploit it in any meaningful way would require organized entities
> >> with unlimited resources (such as government security agencies). Infact, not
> >> far fetched conjecture
> >> within industry circles has always suggested that all the current A5/* GSM
> >> ciphering algorithms were cracked long ago by some agencies (Mossad is a
> >> prime suspect), its just that it's not in the public domain.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, John Adams <adams.opiyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That makes this guys theory correct...that A/51 encryption is a
> >>> toast!....:)...this could be the next big infiltration point....
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:38 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> actually its not just androids and Iphones, any phone with gps can
> >>>> 'track' you...Im not sure how much info you need but: but the US
> >>>> several years back made it a requirement that cellphones making 911
> >>>> calls also send their locations or have the ability to avail it, this
> >>>> was built into the baseband processor - the specs were defined on 3GPP
> >>>> TS 04.31. the specification was called RRLP - radio resource location
> >>>> services. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRLP
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately for you, this communication is not authenticated. RRLP
> >>>> is to say the least one of the most dangerously open protocols out
> >>>> there - ?gsm (well the baseband processor) is full of them -.
> >>>> fortunately for you, people/governments are not interested in hacking
> >>>> gsm networks and phones yet...if you're a criminal however....just use
> >>>> that torch with a phone:-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Apple and Android probably just have apps sitting on top of this, but
> >>>> all gps enabled gsm phones are a risky affair...steve if you need more
> >>>> details on the baseband processor/gps and maybe a few papers you know
> >>>> where to reach me..
> >>>>
> >>>> JGitau
> >>>> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
> >>>> <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > I think if Android devices were found to be doing this it wont be much
> >>>> > of a
> >>>> > fuss, after all android has very strong open source thus geek
> >>>> > community
> >>>> > roots...this is normally taken as a shameless excuse to do all sorts
> >>>> > things
> >>>> > and get away with it :) :)..... But iPhone doing this kind of thing
> >>>> > after
> >>>> > some sort of rogue update and not declaring??? Walalalala!!....
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On a lighter note, Windows and RIM have come out protesting that no
> >>>> >> one is
> >>>> >> bothering to find out if they are secretly tracking users. Both firms
> >>>> >> have
> >>>> >> promised to pay anyone?who?proves that they are?secretly?tracking
> >>>> >> users
> >>>> >> too.
> >>>> >> link not available
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> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:01:27 +0300
> From: "Mick Wilson" <Mick.Wilson@unep.org>
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> I will be out of the office starting 27/04/2011 and will not return until
> 29/04/2011.
>
> I am in Abu Dhabi until the end of the week. I will have some access to
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> From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>
> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
> Subject: [Skunkworks] IPv6 UG
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> http://www.cio.co.ke/Main-Stories/ugandan-isps-implement-ipv6.html
>
> <http://www.cio.co.ke/Main-Stories/ugandan-isps-implement-ipv6.html>Through
> CIO Magazine.
>
> --
> With Regards,
>
> Phares Kariuki
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> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:42:35 +0300
> From: "Denis G. Wahome" <dwahome@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Visa card for Online Transaction?
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> Hey Wesley,
>
> Sometime back i tried to use the BBK Debit Card online but failed, the bank
> confirmed that it is not possible and was asked to apply for the credit
> card(Barclaycard) instead.
>
> R
>
> D
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > Hey Skunk...
> >
> > I've seen several posts on using a Visa card to do online transactions. I
> > think KCB and Equity have been mentioned...
> >
> > Has anyone been successful with using a Barclays Visa Electron Debit card
> > to make an online payment?
> >
> > O_o?
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> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:43:54 +0300
> From: Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Visa card for Online Transaction?
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> Seems Barclays has alot of complications.......
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Wesley,
> >
> > Sometime back i tried to use the BBK Debit Card online but failed, the bank
> > confirmed that it is not possible and was asked to apply for the credit
> > card(Barclaycard) instead.
> >
> > R
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Skunk...
> >>
> >> I've seen several posts on using a Visa card to do online transactions. I
> >> think KCB and Equity have been mentioned...
> >>
> >> Has anyone been successful with using a Barclays Visa Electron Debit card
> >> to make an online payment?
> >>
> >> O_o?
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