Kenya IGF 2011 Mailing List Discussions
Dear Listers, Last year KICTANet commissioned the 3rd online discussion on Internet Governance, aimed at raising awareness, encouraging debate and discussions on Internet Governance Issues as well as identifying new emerging issues. The discussions were centered around critical Internet resources, among the issues discussed were the impact of the undersea cable, the impact of the unified licensing model, emerging policy and regulatory issues, management of the dot KE CCTLD, Adopting IPV6 Challenges and Milestones and finally electronic crimes, privacy and data security. The report was discussed in a Face to Face meeting and presented at the East African IGF that was held in Kampala Uganda. The discussions are here once more, this is a special year in that Kenya will be hosting the 6th IGF under the new five year period. *Background and Introduction to Internet Governance* The Internet Governance Forum (IGF) is a multi-stakeholder forum for policy dialogue on issues of Internet governance. It brings together all stakeholders in the internet governance debate, whether they represent governments, the private sector or civil society, including the technical and academic community, on an equal basis and through an open and inclusive process. [1] The establishment of the IGF was formally announced by the United Nations Secretary-General in July 2006 and it was first convened in October / November 2006.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum _1 The first five years were concluded with the 5th Internet Governance Forum that was held in Vilnius Lithuania. There was consensus among stakeholders on the need to renew the mandate for another five years and Kenya successfully bidded to host the 6th IGF meeting under the new five year mandate which will be held in September 2011 at the United Nations offices in Nairobi. Registration for the meeting is ongoing more details available onwww.intgovforum.org and www.igf.or.ke (Host country website). KICTANET is going to hold an online discussion for 10 days starting on July 1 - to July 11, 2011. The discussion will be moderated by Barrack Otieno and Grace Githaiga. The report will be presented at a Face to Face meeting after validation slated for 15 th July 2011, more details will be availed in due course. Over the ten day period, we will discuss the following issues: - The Impact of Mobile Internet in Kenya - Cloud Computing - Cyber Security and Privacy - Broadband - Principles of Internet Policy Making. We look forward to a stimulating debate from you listers. Attached please find last years report -- Barrack O. Otieno
@Barrack, thank you for sharing the IGF resource and discussion. I shall be following online, and I'd like to list some questions: - The first question that does come up is electronic registration of .KE domains from a user view. Is this a system that has been implemented into the core of KENIC so that any domain registrars can use the facility or has the process been left to private companies to create and offer, thus creating an un-competitive environment. I believe such a core system should provide universal access to any kenyan domain registrars and hope there is something in the pipeline and funds too, if not already in place. Hope this is something we hear more about. - The second question is not directly related but part of cloud computing. Has the govt now made it mandatory for companies to store electronic records at location beyond their business premises, a planning against fire and theft? - The third question is that of BroadBand. Especially for ISPs as the market share has been dropping, is the govt going to make any concessions for ISP groups to purchase 4g/LTE licenses to compete with Telcos? Since the Unified licensing model allows Telcos to offer services on Wimax or other Open bands--which does not require expensive licenses. Will change of govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario? Rgds.
Sorry, correction : Will change* policies* in govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
@ Barack, Thanks for the insight into this discussions. We look forward to an engaged discussion. As I'm in Ukambani, I'll not engage much today. Thanks On 01/07/2011, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, correction : Will change* policies* in govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
@AKI The system is live and is capable of the automation.It uses the EPP protocol and one can develop an epp client to be able to register domains automatically (From the registrars website) without using the KENIC panel.Provided you(registrar)have cash in your account. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Barack, Thanks for the insight into this discussions. We look forward to an engaged discussion. As I'm in Ukambani, I'll not engage much today.
Thanks
On 01/07/2011, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, correction : Will change* policies* in govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
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@Mike, thnks. Interms of creating a universal access system where startup registrars do not need to build any app, is KENIC providing a fully fledged system that removes the need for creating additional apps? Rgds. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Mike M. <mmycool@gmail.com> wrote:
@AKI The system is live and is capable of the automation.It uses the EPP protocol and one can develop an epp client to be able to register domains automatically (From the registrars website) without using the KENIC panel.Provided you(registrar)have cash in your account.
More available from ftp://regsys.kenic.or.ke/pub/registrar/ More from KENIC... On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:03 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mike, thnks. Interms of creating a universal access system where startup registrars do not need to build any app, is KENIC providing a fully fledged system that removes the need for creating additional apps?
Rgds.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Mike M. <mmycool@gmail.com> wrote:
@AKI The system is live and is capable of the automation.It uses the EPP protocol and one can develop an epp client to be able to register domains automatically (From the registrars website) without using the KENIC panel.Provided you(registrar)have cash in your account.
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The registrar.war is the client to the registry system. A Java(jsp) client. The documents folder contains the xml files giving the epp specification format for the various requests.A call to KENIC can give more information. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:24 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, thnks will have a look. Which document in particular?
Rgds.
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Mike M. <mmycool@gmail.com> wrote:
More available from ftp://regsys.kenic.or.ke/pub/registrar/ More from KENIC...
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@Mike, thanks, appreciate it. :-) Am not looking at become a registrar as these things I passed many years ago, but for the sake of discussion and based on core systems I'm going to wait for a feedback on whether the govt has allocated any funds to help kenic enable creation of a universal access system. The application middleman should not exist in the first place, which may be a hinderance to hundreds of .ke domain registrars or startups, which in turn is affecting growth in the sector. Asante. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Mike M. <mmycool@gmail.com> wrote:
The registrar.war is the client to the registry system. A Java(jsp) client. The documents folder contains the xml files giving the epp specification format for the various requests.A call to KENIC can give more information.
Dear Aki, Many thanks for your response, looking forwad to your resourcefullness as we carry on with the discussion in the next ten days on the KICTANET List, the proceedings will also be shared on skunkworks, with regard to the question on KeNIC , i might not be in a position of authority to respond but i would like to inform you that a presentation on the new look KeNIC website was made at the AGM last week. It was interesting to note that as registrars we will now be able to transact with the registry through our mobile phones which is a major step, i hope Paul Musee or David from KeNIC will respond to you fully. I am sure other Participants at the meeting like Mwendwa Kivuva can also bring out another angle to this. On Cloud Computing we have scheduled a day to discuss the issue comprehensively, with regard to whether the government has made it mandatory to store electronic records at a location beyond their premises, i dont think this is the case since i havent seen a component of disaster recovery planning embedded in the National ICT policy, your question brings out the need for a comprehensive disaster recovery Master Plan, i hope PS Ndemo or any lister who may be in the know could bring us upto speed with the current state of affairs. With regard to your question on broadband, we will also have a fullday to discuss broadband related issues. It is worth mentioning that earlier this year a lister (I think Harry Delano) wrote about the need for a National Broad Band Policy similar to what the FCC had come up with in the United States, i am not very sure whether Kenya will have a unique 4G/LTE scenario, i am confident there are listers in the know who will share. I saw 4G/LTE being tested in Vilnius Lithuania during the last IGF, the more reason listers are encouraged to register for the forthcoming IGF since it serves as an important platform for knowledge exchange. Best Regards On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack, thank you for sharing the IGF resource and discussion. I shall be following online, and I'd like to list some questions:
- The first question that does come up is electronic registration of .KE domains from a user view. Is this a system that has been implemented into the core of KENIC so that any domain registrars can use the facility or has the process been left to private companies to create and offer, thus creating an un-competitive environment. I believe such a core system should provide universal access to any kenyan domain registrars and hope there is something in the pipeline and funds too, if not already in place. Hope this is something we hear more about.
- The second question is not directly related but part of cloud computing. Has the govt now made it mandatory for companies to store electronic records at location beyond their business premises, a planning against fire and theft?
- The third question is that of BroadBand. Especially for ISPs as the market share has been dropping, is the govt going to make any concessions for ISP groups to purchase 4g/LTE licenses to compete with Telcos? Since the Unified licensing model allows Telcos to offer services on Wimax or other Open bands--which does not require expensive licenses. Will change of govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
Rgds.
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Very well Solomon, looking forwad to your contributions in the coming week. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Aki,
Many thanks for your response, looking forwad to your resourcefullness as we carry on with the discussion in the next ten days on the KICTANET List, the proceedings will also be shared on skunkworks, with regard to the question on KeNIC , i might not be in a position of authority to respond but i would like to inform you that a presentation on the new look KeNIC website was made at the AGM last week. It was interesting to note that as registrars we will now be able to transact with the registry through our mobile phones which is a major step, i hope Paul Musee or David from KeNIC will respond to you fully. I am sure other Participants at the meeting like Mwendwa Kivuva can also bring out another angle to this.
On Cloud Computing we have scheduled a day to discuss the issue comprehensively, with regard to whether the government has made it mandatory to store electronic records at a location beyond their premises, i dont think this is the case since i havent seen a component of disaster recovery planning embedded in the National ICT policy, your question brings out the need for a comprehensive disaster recovery Master Plan, i hope PS Ndemo or any lister who may be in the know could bring us upto speed with the current state of affairs.
With regard to your question on broadband, we will also have a fullday to discuss broadband related issues. It is worth mentioning that earlier this year a lister (I think Harry Delano) wrote about the need for a National Broad Band Policy similar to what the FCC had come up with in the United States, i am not very sure whether Kenya will have a unique 4G/LTE scenario, i am confident there are listers in the know who will share. I saw 4G/LTE being tested in Vilnius Lithuania during the last IGF, the more reason listers are encouraged to register for the forthcoming IGF since it serves as an important platform for knowledge exchange.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack, thank you for sharing the IGF resource and discussion. I shall be following online, and I'd like to list some questions:
- The first question that does come up is electronic registration of .KE domains from a user view. Is this a system that has been implemented into the core of KENIC so that any domain registrars can use the facility or has the process been left to private companies to create and offer, thus creating an un-competitive environment. I believe such a core system should provide universal access to any kenyan domain registrars and hope there is something in the pipeline and funds too, if not already in place. Hope this is something we hear more about.
- The second question is not directly related but part of cloud computing. Has the govt now made it mandatory for companies to store electronic records at location beyond their business premises, a planning against fire and theft?
- The third question is that of BroadBand. Especially for ISPs as the market share has been dropping, is the govt going to make any concessions for ISP groups to purchase 4g/LTE licenses to compete with Telcos? Since the Unified licensing model allows Telcos to offer services on Wimax or other Open bands--which does not require expensive licenses. Will change of govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
Rgds.
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Dear Aki, Currently, M-pesa payment is available to all KENIC registrars; the process is fully automated and credits registrar's account immediately. Some registrars even allow their clients to pay directly to KENIC using our paybill number. In regard to end-user to registrar automation, KENIC has provided materials for EPP integration (ftp://regsys.kenic.or.ke) and some of the registrars have actually automated their domain registration processes. Registrars can also use any other EPP client of their choice to enable their end-users to connect to the registry. Regards, Paul On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Aki,
Many thanks for your response, looking forwad to your resourcefullness as we carry on with the discussion in the next ten days on the KICTANET List, the proceedings will also be shared on skunkworks, with regard to the question on KeNIC , i might not be in a position of authority to respond but i would like to inform you that a presentation on the new look KeNIC website was made at the AGM last week. It was interesting to note that as registrars we will now be able to transact with the registry through our mobile phones which is a major step, i hope Paul Musee or David from KeNIC will respond to you fully. I am sure other Participants at the meeting like Mwendwa Kivuva can also bring out another angle to this.
On Cloud Computing we have scheduled a day to discuss the issue comprehensively, with regard to whether the government has made it mandatory to store electronic records at a location beyond their premises, i dont think this is the case since i havent seen a component of disaster recovery planning embedded in the National ICT policy, your question brings out the need for a comprehensive disaster recovery Master Plan, i hope PS Ndemo or any lister who may be in the know could bring us upto speed with the current state of affairs.
With regard to your question on broadband, we will also have a fullday to discuss broadband related issues. It is worth mentioning that earlier this year a lister (I think Harry Delano) wrote about the need for a National Broad Band Policy similar to what the FCC had come up with in the United States, i am not very sure whether Kenya will have a unique 4G/LTE scenario, i am confident there are listers in the know who will share. I saw 4G/LTE being tested in Vilnius Lithuania during the last IGF, the more reason listers are encouraged to register for the forthcoming IGF since it serves as an important platform for knowledge exchange.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:59 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack, thank you for sharing the IGF resource and discussion. I shall be following online, and I'd like to list some questions:
- The first question that does come up is electronic registration of .KE domains from a user view. Is this a system that has been implemented into the core of KENIC so that any domain registrars can use the facility or has the process been left to private companies to create and offer, thus creating an un-competitive environment. I believe such a core system should provide universal access to any kenyan domain registrars and hope there is something in the pipeline and funds too, if not already in place. Hope this is something we hear more about.
- The second question is not directly related but part of cloud computing. Has the govt now made it mandatory for companies to store electronic records at location beyond their business premises, a planning against fire and theft?
- The third question is that of BroadBand. Especially for ISPs as the market share has been dropping, is the govt going to make any concessions for ISP groups to purchase 4g/LTE licenses to compete with Telcos? Since the Unified licensing model allows Telcos to offer services on Wimax or other Open bands--which does not require expensive licenses. Will change of govt make Kenya a unique 4g/lte scenario?
Rgds.
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participants (5)
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aki -
Barrack Otieno -
Mike M. -
Paul M -
Solomon Mburu Kamau