They are not only spying on you but own you. Start by reading the current google, FB, and Twitter TOS. ---- Kind Regards, Alex Nyalita On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ouya Obunga <ouya.bill@gmail.com> wrote:

I do not think this espionage issue is that big in the event that you do not deal drugs, terrorism, money laundering. In any case, I do not think they spy to steal from your bank or Paypal account. If you are on the right side of the law, worry not! I may be wrong though.

Best regards,

Ouya Obunga

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:

...

I thought we already knew that they (NSA) read our emails? All these US companies have to yield a certain level to operate there, some even going as far as willingly giving backdoor access.

Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On May 21, 2014 10:43 PM, "Cynthia Wahome" <cwahome@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hello All Just Seen on NTV news that Big Brother US is spying on us. Seems that they can get to view my metadata and maybe later my content. So i pose the following 1)Are they working hand in hand with Queen bee? 2)Could they also be reading my mails.or maybe perhaps they are monitoring this list? 3)is there a possibility we could have something like lavabit or silent circle here locally? 4)is our gvt even aware of this?

etc..just asking.

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Spying is as old as the oldest Proffession :-) it has just evolved technology wise. I suppose that is why US/UK will know about an impending attack before it happens in this country.... On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Isaac Kiplagat <isaac.kiplagat@gmail.com>wrote:

Hi All, US been doing this since the time of Yahoo! in fashion. While Kenya was busy setting up commission of inquiries they had gathered enough evidence to know masterminds of Anglo leasing and issue a travel ban to those ones.

When Snowden raised an Alarm last year, the developed countries never stopped to think and act. This Big brother is a kind of a neighbour who uses binoculars to see what you are doing in you bedroom and says "*Haki ya Mungu, asikuje kuomba chumvi kesho!!*" (I swear, let him come and borrow me salt tomorrow)

They can do that because they have got longer noses(literally) anyway..

On 22 May 2014 07:48, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com> wrote:

...

They are not only spying on you but own you. Start by reading the current google, FB, and Twitter TOS.

----

Kind Regards,

Alex Nyalita

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ouya Obunga <ouya.bill@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I do not think this espionage issue is that big in the event that you do not deal drugs, terrorism, money laundering. In any case, I do not think they spy to steal from your bank or Paypal account. If you are on the right side of the law, worry not! I may be wrong though.

Best regards,

Ouya Obunga

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:

...

I thought we already knew that they (NSA) read our emails? All these US companies have to yield a certain level to operate there, some even going as far as willingly giving backdoor access.

Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On May 21, 2014 10:43 PM, "Cynthia Wahome" <cwahome@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hello All Just Seen on NTV news that Big Brother US is spying on us. Seems that they can get to view my metadata and maybe later my content. So i pose the following 1)Are they working hand in hand with Queen bee? 2)Could they also be reading my mails.or maybe perhaps they are monitoring this list? 3)is there a possibility we could have something like lavabit or silent circle here locally? 4)is our gvt even aware of this?

etc..just asking.

Regards Cynthia

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There's a lot that you can do: * Convince your friends to move over to redphone. This will protect your call from recording but may leak metadata (SIP/RTP endpoints are IP endpoints which can be tied to specific phones/SIM) [1] * Move your texting to textsecure. This will protect your text messages from eavesdropping. Again, metadata is up for grabs. [2] * Enable TLS everywhere [3] * The list is goes on. Have a look at prism countermeasures from prism break [4]. 1. RedPhone <https://github.com/whispersystems/redphone> 2. TextSecure <https://github.com/whispersystems/textsecure> 3. http://blog.prosody.im/mandatory-encryption-on-xmpp-starts-today/ 4. https://prism-break.org/en/ 5. http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software.html On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Brian Wangila <brian@bwangila.com> wrote:

Regardless of whether you're a straight arrow or not, it is the outright violation of privacy just because they can that is the issue.

Imagine if someone followed you around daily, tracking your every step, and you knowing that they may use/twist the information they have against you...and there is absolutely nothing that you can do.

__ Kind regards,

Brian Wangila Web developer | UI Designer ------------------------------ From: Ouya Obunga <ouya.bill@gmail.com> Sent: ‎5/‎22/‎2014 7:41 To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] US SPYING ON KENYA

I do not think this espionage issue is that big in the event that you do not deal drugs, terrorism, money laundering. In any case, I do not think they spy to steal from your bank or Paypal account. If you are on the right side of the law, worry not! I may be wrong though.

Best regards,

Ouya Obunga

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:

...

I thought we already knew that they (NSA) read our emails? All these US companies have to yield a certain level to operate there, some even going as far as willingly giving backdoor access.

Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On May 21, 2014 10:43 PM, "Cynthia Wahome" <cwahome@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hello All Just Seen on NTV news that Big Brother US is spying on us. Seems that they can get to view my metadata and maybe later my content. So i pose the following 1)Are they working hand in hand with Queen bee? 2)Could they also be reading my mails.or maybe perhaps they are monitoring this list? 3)is there a possibility we could have something like lavabit or silent circle here locally? 4)is our gvt even aware of this?

etc..just asking.

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The CIA is one of the biggest drug dealers on the planet if not the single biggest one. This is from popular media and conspiracy theory sources that usually make more sense than mainstream media and official positions. Te only way to avoid getting spied on is by not using their technology. Good luck with that. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

Ha ha, ati they are spying on you to stop you from doing drugs? Wasn't M*** doing drugs well before and hasn't the Australian Navy been finding lots of drugs lately?

Kenyans trust governments too much and make the mistake of assuming governments are your friend.

If again, you've been following up the Snowden files, the spying has been targeted at governments, law firms etc to keep a tab on what they are up to, so that the US government can be one step ahead of them.

Nothing to do with drugs, Obuya. On 22 May 2014 08:03, "Brian Wangila" <brian@bwangila.com> wrote:

...

Regardless of whether you're a straight arrow or not, it is the outright violation of privacy just because they can that is the issue.

Imagine if someone followed you around daily, tracking your every step, and you knowing that they may use/twist the information they have against you...and there is absolutely nothing that you can do.

__ Kind regards,

Brian Wangila Web developer | UI Designer ------------------------------ From: Ouya Obunga <ouya.bill@gmail.com> Sent: 5/22/2014 7:41

To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] US SPYING ON KENYA

I do not think this espionage issue is that big in the event that you do not deal drugs, terrorism, money laundering. In any case, I do not think they spy to steal from your bank or Paypal account. If you are on the right side of the law, worry not! I may be wrong though.

Best regards,

Ouya Obunga

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:

...

I thought we already knew that they (NSA) read our emails? All these US companies have to yield a certain level to operate there, some even going as far as willingly giving backdoor access.

Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On May 21, 2014 10:43 PM, "Cynthia Wahome" <cwahome@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hello All Just Seen on NTV news that Big Brother US is spying on us. Seems that they can get to view my metadata and maybe later my content. So i pose the following 1)Are they working hand in hand with Queen bee? 2)Could they also be reading my mails.or maybe perhaps they are monitoring this list? 3)is there a possibility we could have something like lavabit or silent circle here locally? 4)is our gvt even aware of this?

etc..just asking.

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quit* :) #TypoNazi On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:

I have no problem with the CIA, NSA, NIS (Kenya), KGB, Mossad, MI6 etc reading anything I have on the Internet because it's meant to be there and no one lied to me that Internet is private!

What's the hullabaloo now? There is nothing called PRIVACY on the Internet. It's not your cabinet at home to which you have keys.

Did Laban just say TLS everywhere? And that uses SSL and we all know about Heartbleed?

Hebu you guys quite the Internet if you have privacy concerns!!

Or better still write all the software you want to use and build your own security in them:)

On 22 May 2014 09:07, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The CIA is one of the biggest drug dealers on the planet if not the single biggest one. This is from popular media and conspiracy theory sources that usually make more sense than mainstream media and official positions.

Te only way to avoid getting spied on is by not using their technology. Good luck with that.

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Ha ha, ati they are spying on you to stop you from doing drugs? Wasn't M*** doing drugs well before and hasn't the Australian Navy been finding lots of drugs lately?

Kenyans trust governments too much and make the mistake of assuming governments are your friend.

If again, you've been following up the Snowden files, the spying has been targeted at governments, law firms etc to keep a tab on what they are up to, so that the US government can be one step ahead of them.

Nothing to do with drugs, Obuya. On 22 May 2014 08:03, "Brian Wangila" <brian@bwangila.com> wrote:

...

Regardless of whether you're a straight arrow or not, it is the outright violation of privacy just because they can that is the issue.

Imagine if someone followed you around daily, tracking your every step, and you knowing that they may use/twist the information they have against you...and there is absolutely nothing that you can do.

__ Kind regards,

Brian Wangila Web developer | UI Designer ------------------------------ From: Ouya Obunga <ouya.bill@gmail.com> Sent: 5/22/2014 7:41

To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] US SPYING ON KENYA

I do not think this espionage issue is that big in the event that you do not deal drugs, terrorism, money laundering. In any case, I do not think they spy to steal from your bank or Paypal account. If you are on the right side of the law, worry not! I may be wrong though.

Best regards,

Ouya Obunga

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:

...

I thought we already knew that they (NSA) read our emails? All these US companies have to yield a certain level to operate there, some even going as far as willingly giving backdoor access.

Regards, Martin Gicheru Editor Techweez On May 21, 2014 10:43 PM, "Cynthia Wahome" <cwahome@jambo.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hello All Just Seen on NTV news that Big Brother US is spying on us. Seems that they can get to view my metadata and maybe later my content. So i pose the following 1)Are they working hand in hand with Queen bee? 2)Could they also be reading my mails.or maybe perhaps they are monitoring this list? 3)is there a possibility we could have something like lavabit or silent circle here locally? 4)is our gvt even aware of this?

etc..just asking.

Regards Cynthia

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Spying is one thing. what the latest leaks are indicating is breach of confidentiality. This means that businesses can no longer trust the Internet for doing business , the implications here are massive. Consultants are already being told not to discuss some business aspects on phone. On Thursday, 22 May 2014, Robert Kamanda <robkamanda@gmail.com> wrote:

If you care more about being spied on then, Build you own google, whatsapp, gmail, linkedin, facebook , twitter..etc , better still quit from the internet.

There is nothing like privacy on the Internet....

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:

quit* :) #TypoNazi

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:

I have no problem with the CIA, NSA, NIS (Kenya), KGB, Mossad, MI6 etc reading anything I have on the Internet because it's meant to be there and no one lied to me that Internet is private!

What's the hullabaloo now? There is nothing called PRIVACY on the Internet. It's not your cabinet at home to which you have keys.

Did Laban just say TLS everywhere? And that uses SSL and we all know about Heartbleed?

Hebu you guys quite the Internet if you have privacy concerns!!

Or better still write all the software you want to use and build your own security in them:)

On 22 May 2014 09:07, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:

The CIA is one of the biggest drug dealers on the planet if not the single biggest one. This is from popular media and conspiracy theory sources that usually make more sense than mainstream media and official positions.

Te only way to avoid getting spied on is by not using their technology. Good luck with that.

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

Ha ha, ati they are spying on you to stop you from doing drugs? Wasn't M*** doing drugs well before and hasn't the Australian Navy been finding lots of drugs lately?

Kenyans trust governments too much and make the mistake of assuming governments are your friend.

If again, you've been following up the Snowden files, the spying has been targeted at governments, law firms etc to keep a tab on what they are up to, so that the US government can be one step ahead of them.

Nothing to do with drugs, Obuya. On 22 May 2014 08:03, "Brian Wangila" <brian@bwangila.com> wrote:

Regardless of whether you're a straight arrow or not, it is the outright violation of privacy just because they can that is the issue.

Imagine if someone followed you around daily, tracking your every step, and you knowing that they may use/twist the information they have against you...and there is absolutely nothing that you can do.

__ Kind regards,

Brian Wangila Web developer | UI Designer ------------------------------ From: Ouya Obunga Sent: 5/22/2014 7:41

To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] US SPYING ON KENYA

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The people who should loudest about security have nothing that is valuable enough to keep secret - live and let live! ./Ok3ch On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:

Privacy (not security) is an overrated concept.

Tony.

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