Taking advantage of job seekers? From: Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16 PM To: Richard Kiritu.; Skunkworks Mailing List; Tom Musau Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Aki some guys.. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, 14:44 Richard Kiritu. via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: for I.T intern, requesting for more information Thank you. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Tom Musau via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Hey guys, Am looking for an IT graduate to join on internship. CCNA/Linux certified persons preferred as it may lead to employment. Drop an email offlist thanks Tom _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

It is wrong to take advantage of people looking for work. Advertise and recruit appropriate staff. Don’t engage people with a promise of possible employment Regards, From: Oliver Ndegwa [mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:06 AM To: Alex Watila; Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Some of us behave like we were born working. help a guy who seeks help, if you have nothing to offer him save your critics for the boardrooms.. Kwani nini... Olie Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa TRIPLE PLAY COMMUNICATION P.O.Box 5207-00506, Nairobi | Phone : 254 02688421 | Cell: +254 713777001, 717883937 Dev Towers, Tubman Rd ,Nairobi, Kenya. | website: | www.tripleplaylive.net <http://www.tripleplaylive.net/> | skype:oliver.snom | Google talk:olie.ndegwa On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Alex Watila via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Taking advantage of job seekers? From: Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16 PM To: Richard Kiritu.; Skunkworks Mailing List; Tom Musau Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Aki some guys.. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, 14:44 Richard Kiritu. via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: for I.T intern, requesting for more information Thank you. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Tom Musau via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Hey guys, Am looking for an IT graduate to join on internship. CCNA/Linux certified persons preferred as it may lead to employment. Drop an email offlist thanks Tom _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Internships should be paid for (recruit them at entry level). Recruit based on potential and develop that person. It worked very well in our time and we are still going strong in the profession. During my early years I was employed based on my potential, attached to an experienced professional to learn and grow. Promoted as I developed. Regards, Alex From: Peter Karunyu via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:53 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Alex, are you implying that: 1. There should be no internships, or 2. All internships should be paid 3. Do not offer full-time positions to interns who "proof" themselves I do not understand how you view internship as being taken advantage of. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Alex Watila via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: It is wrong to take advantage of people looking for work. Advertise and recruit appropriate staff. Don’t engage people with a promise of possible employment Regards, From: Oliver Ndegwa [mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> ] Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:06 AM To: Alex Watila; Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Some of us behave like we were born working. help a guy who seeks help, if you have nothing to offer him save your critics for the boardrooms.. Kwani nini... Olie Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa TRIPLE PLAY COMMUNICATION P.O.Box 5207-00506, Nairobi | Phone : 254 02688421 | Cell: +254 713777001, 717883937 Dev Towers, Tubman Rd ,Nairobi, Kenya. | website: | www.tripleplaylive.net <http://www.tripleplaylive.net/> | skype:oliver.snom | Google talk:olie.ndegwa On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Alex Watila via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Taking advantage of job seekers? From: Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16 PM To: Richard Kiritu.; Skunkworks Mailing List; Tom Musau Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted Aki some guys.. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, 14:44 Richard Kiritu. via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: for I.T intern, requesting for more information Thank you. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Tom Musau via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Hey guys, Am looking for an IT graduate to join on internship. CCNA/Linux certified persons preferred as it may lead to employment. Drop an email offlist thanks Tom _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Thanks guys, This should not be a big fuss. Am offering an internship opportunity and we do pay some some token. Am filtering the interns so that if the person is very good, he can probably get employed if there is an opportunity. I have received applications and am selecting 2 persons on Monday. Kind Regards On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

I think Alex's was a rant.

I don't see anything wrong by someone saying that "if you prove you're worth, I'll give you a job". How that translates into 'taking advantage' beats me, although in Alex's view, it's more like "sugar-coating and it's wrong".

Well, I am sure most people would ignore that.

On 27 March 2015 at 10:52, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Alex, are you implying that:

1. There should be no internships, or 2. All internships should be paid 3. Do not offer full-time positions to interns who "proof" themselves

I do not understand how you view internship as being taken advantage of.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Alex Watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

It is wrong to take advantage of people looking for work.

Advertise and recruit appropriate staff.

Don’t engage people with a promise of possible employment

Regards,

*From:* Oliver Ndegwa [mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 4:06 AM *To:* Alex Watila; Skunkworks Mailing List

*Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted

Some of us behave like we were born working. help a guy who seeks help, if you have nothing to offer him save your critics for the boardrooms..

Kwani nini...

Olie

Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa

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On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Alex Watila via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Taking advantage of job seekers?

*From:* Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks [mailto: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16 PM *To:* Richard Kiritu.; Skunkworks Mailing List; Tom Musau *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] ICT interns wanted

Aki some guys..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015, 14:44 Richard Kiritu. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

for I.T intern, requesting for more information

Thank you.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Tom Musau via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Hey guys,

Am looking for an IT graduate to join on internship. CCNA/Linux certified persons preferred as it may lead to employment.

Drop an email offlist

thanks Tom

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