Thanks Lawi! Keep me posted, really interested. On 12/28/10, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

For PMP certification, the first step would be to register with the PMI. Costs around 130 usd. Check pmi.org for more details.

Requirements to sit for PMP certification include experience as a project manager (measured in hours), a minimum no of hours in a class among others. PMP.org will have more details.

It was my wish to facilitate a PMP training for Skunks this coming year - with an accredited trainer. Details will be forthcoming :)

On 12/28/10, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hey,

Anyone knows local companies where one can intern as a junior project manager? What are the requirements? Are their colleges where one can get the PMI certification?

Cheers!

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@ Lawi, I would love to know so much more about PMI certification and PMP training. thanks. On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>wrote:

interested in the PMP training too..

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Thanks Lawi!

Keep me posted, really interested.

On 12/28/10, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

For PMP certification, the first step would be to register with the PMI. Costs around 130 usd. Check pmi.org for more details.

Requirements to sit for PMP certification include experience as a project manager (measured in hours), a minimum no of hours in a class among others. PMP.org will have more details.

It was my wish to facilitate a PMP training for Skunks this coming year - with an accredited trainer. Details will be forthcoming :)

On 12/28/10, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hey,

Anyone knows local companies where one can intern as a junior project manager? What are the requirements? Are their colleges where one can get the PMI certification?

Cheers!

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I know the PMI course is pretty good, but comparing to KIM Dip, any advice? Is the Dip like the CAPM? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Eunice Saitua <eunice.wamboi@gmail.com>wrote:

Interested in the training too.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Sammy Baita <sabaita@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@ Lawi,

I would love to know so much more about PMI certification and PMP training.

thanks.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>wrote:

...

interested in the PMP training too..

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Thanks Lawi!

Keep me posted, really interested.

On 12/28/10, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

...

For PMP certification, the first step would be to register with the PMI. Costs around 130 usd. Check pmi.org for more details.

Requirements to sit for PMP certification include experience as a project manager (measured in hours), a minimum no of hours in a class among others. PMP.org will have more details.

It was my wish to facilitate a PMP training for Skunks this coming year - with an accredited trainer. Details will be forthcoming :)

On 12/28/10, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hey,

Anyone knows local companies where one can intern as a junior project manager? What are the requirements? Are their colleges where one can get the PMI certification?

Cheers!

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Hi All, I wish i had seen your request earlier coz i was also searching for PMP certification, i got this place in town Center for Finance and Project management, http://www.cfpm.co.ke. Two of my colleagues trained there last year. Am starting my classes today. Hope this will be helpful. Peris. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

@Susan, I will be honest, I dont know how KIM compares to CAPM but I can do my research and get back to you.

As for the other listers, its good to see there is interest. I will share infor on the training once the necessary arrangements have been made.

Let me just say this it may not this month but in case you have any direct questions just holla.

On 1/3/11, Susan Mwaura <susan.mwaura@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I know the PMI course is pretty good, but comparing to KIM Dip, any advice? Is the Dip like the CAPM?

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Eunice Saitua <eunice.wamboi@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Interested in the training too.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Sammy Baita <sabaita@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@ Lawi,

I would love to know so much more about PMI certification and PMP training.

thanks.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com>wrote:

...

interested in the PMP training too..

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Douglas Ogeto < douglas.ogeto@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Thanks Lawi!

Keep me posted, really interested.

On 12/28/10, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote: > For PMP certification, the first step would be to register with the > PMI. Costs around 130 usd. Check pmi.org for more details. > > Requirements to sit for PMP certification include experience as a > project manager (measured in hours), a minimum no of hours in a class > among others. PMP.org will have more details. > > It was my wish to facilitate a PMP training for Skunks this coming > year - with an accredited trainer. Details will be forthcoming :) > > > > On 12/28/10, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Anyone knows local companies where one can intern as a junior >> project >> manager? What are the requirements? Are their colleges where one can >> get the PMI certification? >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> -- >> Douglas Ogeto >> douglas.ogeto@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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I look at project management as a tool...not a serious career.Everyone one time or another has to use some project management skills. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com>wrote:

@All,

What are the possibilities of getting a project job once I attain this kind of certification? Bearing in mind am just a fresh graduate.

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Am sorry it came out badly what I meant,is you need other skills to compliment the Project Management skills.e.g If you are a project manager,in IT ....it means you must have the IT skills first,then project management will be an added advantage. I hope its clearer now,i did not mean to discourage those,who are doing project management... On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

McDee,

What are you y'all talking about? Project management is a serious discipline and a career like any other I work for a Telco and over and above PMI/PMP we have three additional internal certifications based on actual project experience.

Everything every organization does is a project and this is a formalized discipline from Banking, to Insurance to Manufacturing. Here's my recommendation, instead of doing the certification first, get a PM job and do the certification and not the other way round. This is not Cisco or MCSE, you have to have hands on experience.

Look for a preparation center preferably in Dubai/SA for the weeks running to the exam and pay for it.

My thoughts

Kiania D.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I look at project management as a tool...not a serious career.Everyone one time or another has to use some project management skills.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Douglas Ogeto <douglas.ogeto@gmail.com

wrote:

...

@All,

What are the possibilities of getting a project job once I attain this kind of certification? Bearing in mind am just a fresh graduate.

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I agree with Lawi, You do not need to be an expert in an area to be a project manager. I have a partner consultant who is so good in project management he runs complex IT projects and has no training whatsoever in IT. Project management is about managing the resources and making sure you deliver to clients in time and within defined specifications(quality) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

McDonald, not necessarily.

Of course it pays for a PM to be an SME (Subject Matter Expert) in the project he/she is leading but from experience, thats not necessary.

As a PM you must manage the resources that actually get the work done.

And Kiania was spot on, before you get certified as a PMP you must have enough PM hours. What most people do is first to get the PM training, (takes like 1 week), to get the PM knowledge and then apply work on a project.

Once you have gathered enough hours on a project then you can get the certification.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Am sorry it came out badly what I meant,is you need other skills to compliment the Project Management skills.e.g If you are a project manager,in IT ....it means you must have the IT skills first,then project management will be an added advantage.

I hope its clearer now,i did not mean to discourage those,who are doing project management...

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

...

McDee,

What are you y'all talking about? Project management is a serious discipline and a career like any other I work for a Telco and over and above PMI/PMP we have three additional internal certifications based on actual project experience.

Everything every organization does is a project and this is a formalized discipline from Banking, to Insurance to Manufacturing. Here's my recommendation, instead of doing the certification first, get a PM job and do the certification and not the other way round. This is not Cisco or MCSE, you have to have hands on experience.

Look for a preparation center preferably in Dubai/SA for the weeks running to the exam and pay for it.

My thoughts

Kiania D.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I look at project management as a tool...not a serious career.Everyone one time or another has to use some project management skills.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Douglas Ogeto < douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@All,

What are the possibilities of getting a project job once I attain this kind of certification? Bearing in mind am just a fresh graduate.

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Not true sir. You do not have to be a domain expert to manage a project. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:

Am sorry it came out badly what I meant,is you need other skills to compliment the Project Management skills.e.g If you are a project manager,in IT ....it means you must have the IT skills first,then project management will be an added advantage.

I hope its clearer now,i did not mean to discourage those,who are doing project management...

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

...

McDee,

What are you y'all talking about? Project management is a serious discipline and a career like any other I work for a Telco and over and above PMI/PMP we have three additional internal certifications based on actual project experience.

Everything every organization does is a project and this is a formalized discipline from Banking, to Insurance to Manufacturing. Here's my recommendation, instead of doing the certification first, get a PM job and do the certification and not the other way round. This is not Cisco or MCSE, you have to have hands on experience.

Look for a preparation center preferably in Dubai/SA for the weeks running to the exam and pay for it.

My thoughts

Kiania D.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I look at project management as a tool...not a serious career.Everyone one time or another has to use some project management skills.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Douglas Ogeto < douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@All,

What are the possibilities of getting a project job once I attain this kind of certification? Bearing in mind am just a fresh graduate.

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Hello I just got the below and thought to forward: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ATTENTION: CEOs/DIRECTORS/SENIOR MANAGERS/PROJECT OR PROGRAMME MANAGERS/BUSINESS ANALYSTS/PROJECT TEAMS/ETC Successful project management is a major concern to organizations (both private and public). Most projects fail because of time overruns, budget overruns and failure to meet the specific specifications/requirements. Project failure is very expensive and can be very catastrophic especially in organizations that undertake multiple and large scale projects. Businet Systems Ltd (a leading best practice training and consultancy company based in Nairobi, Kenya) has partnered with ILX Group Plc to facilitate and delivery the first ever fully accredited PRINCE2 course in this region. ILX Group Plc is a leading international best practice training and consultancy organization based in the UK with presence in 97 countries across the world. This course will be facilitated by a recognized, experienced and accredited trainers from ILX Group Plc. The course facilitators have vast experience and practical understanding and knowledge in project management. The 5 day course will run from 14th February 2011 to 18th February 2011 at Red Court Hotel, situated along Mombasa Road in Nairobi. Participants for this course will be drawn from leading private and public organizations in Kenya. This course targets managers involved in project management at any level i.e. either at the operational level, tactical level or strategic level. The specific details of this course are included in the attached course brochure and official invitation letter. We take this opportunity to invite participants from your organization to attend this highly important course and acquire a world class qualification. For detailed enquiries, bookings or next course dates or any further clarification, kindly contact our sales team on: Businet Systems Ltd P.O. Box 11095-00100 Nairobi, Kenya Tel: +254-020-8085085/96 E-mail: info@businetsystems.com Vincent: Vincent.mukele@businetsystems.com Caroline: caroline.masika@businetsystems.com On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:

Thanks everyone...i guess am enlighted now,once again am sorry for my assumptions.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:

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Not true sir.

You do not have to be a domain expert to manage a project.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:

...

Am sorry it came out badly what I meant,is you need other skills to compliment the Project Management skills.e.g If you are a project manager,in IT ....it means you must have the IT skills first,then project management will be an added advantage.

I hope its clearer now,i did not mean to discourage those,who are doing project management...

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:

...

McDee,

What are you y'all talking about? Project management is a serious discipline and a career like any other I work for a Telco and over and above PMI/PMP we have three additional internal certifications based on actual project experience.

Everything every organization does is a project and this is a formalized discipline from Banking, to Insurance to Manufacturing. Here's my recommendation, instead of doing the certification first, get a PM job and do the certification and not the other way round. This is not Cisco or MCSE, you have to have hands on experience.

Look for a preparation center preferably in Dubai/SA for the weeks running to the exam and pay for it.

My thoughts

Kiania D.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I look at project management as a tool...not a serious career.Everyone one time or another has to use some project management skills.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Douglas Ogeto < douglas.ogeto@gmail.com> wrote:

...

@All,

What are the possibilities of getting a project job once I attain

this

...

kind of certification? Bearing in mind am just a fresh graduate.

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