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Two words.... "Repeat Business". Recurring maintenance and servicing cost, in other words "milk the cow" for all it's worth. On 05/12/2015 03:56 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach Regards Jeremiah Ngure On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
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i haven't see exposed cables in all the cam i have come across. Kind Regards, Wilson./ On 13 May 2015 at 17:42, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
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Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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Jeremiah, I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what? Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active. I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints) 1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census. Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts. Only then can we make sense of this!! On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015. NB:I am not negative,just realistic. Regards, David. . On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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On 14 May 2015 at 11:17, David Rukorio via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
I heard gov. say they will have biometric register very soon. So they are on track still.... but recall some "pple" objected? Dig into archives... Kind Regards, Wilson./
*2015-05-14 11:17 GMT+03:00 David Rukorio via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>*
*Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.*
You are wrong on this. Contention only comes in if you transfer the electronic evidence from the original recording medium without following due process. Tony.
@David, small correction; video footage is admissible in court, but it requires some accompanying documentation. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM, David Rukorio via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards, David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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If I can remember, Safaricom was also to equip the police with smart devices equipped with cameras - which means that the police will need some new technology such as, perhaps, digitisation of the OB, security services, etc. Who are those tenders going to - or is GoK relying on Safaricom to do end to end? On Thu, 14 May 2015 at 14:04 Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@David, small correction; video footage is admissible in court, but it requires some accompanying documentation.
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM, David Rukorio via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards, David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
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Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards, David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya. But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally? Best Regards, __________________________________________________ George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043 Skype: gmatuthu From: Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM To: David Rukorio Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com <mailto:drukorio@gmail.com> > wrote: Jeremiah, I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what? Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active. I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints) 1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census. Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts. Only then can we make sense of this!! On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015. NB:I am not negative,just realistic. Regards, David. . On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach Regards Jeremiah Ngure On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com <mailto:mumirap@gmail.com> > wrote: Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > wrote: What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable . Regards _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- =========== Regards, David Rukorio
We should not de-link the will and spirit of law enforcement from these tech developments. Fighting crime, as with any task, requires the will of those involved. As in strong will. Technology should come as a tool to support or speed up the process. Tech should not be the one leading the fight If we are to rely on tech without changing the human factor - initiative, motivation, etc we may not go far. Case in point: There is a "face" going round in social networks of this "criminal" that jacked a guy along Waiyaki, huko Kikuyu. Chances are he's still roaming free. On Friday last week some politician in Nakuru shot at journalists. He's known and there is evidence. But he is probably not going to be arrested. There is simply no will to take action. Sometimes I feel the law enforcers put slightly more effort when under pressure. Like when the victim is a prominent person. The populace also needs to contribute to feel they'll be protected if they finger criminals. Disclaimer: Watched too much TV and "The first 48" episodes. I admire the zeal with which some of those guys work to close a case. They go the extra extra mile. On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
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*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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When there are no camers, we complain When there are cameras, we complain Will we ever be satisfied? On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
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Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for? kind regards Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043
Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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My biggest issue is not just having the cameras, we need to spearhead these efforts from all fronts. The police must be equipped to use such tech gadgets. How many Police stations have computers in Kenya? All reports are still made to an old book that no one can search or analyze. We are pushing the hands and forgetting the rest of the body. Being my taxes that will eventually pay for this, I have a say in it. Lets not forget what happened with Kideros flashy project. Get the system, but get the house in order. There's no use in having our pretty faces stored in a database that no one will ever peruse. On May 25, 2015 11:34 AM, "newton mbugua via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for?
kind regards
Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043
Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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Perhaps batteries for power backup? From: newton mbugua via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:34 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for? kind regards Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375 On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya. But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally? Best Regards, __________________________________________________ George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043 Skype: gmatuthu From: Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM To: David Rukorio Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote: Jeremiah, I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense. Why? Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what? Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active. I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints) 1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration. 2.Get all this data during 18+ registration 3.Get the updated details during the year of census. Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts. Only then can we make sense of this!! On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015. NB:I am not negative,just realistic. Regards, David. . On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach Regards Jeremiah Ngure On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote: Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable . Regards _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- =========== Regards, David Rukorio _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
The boxes have power backups ..those flex conduits have fiber and power cables in them and that was my concern they are too exposed and easily reachable ...at least Kidero project they did a good job concealing them . On May 25, 2015 11:38 AM, "newton mbugua via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for?
kind regards
Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043
Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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Am certain someone is taking notes and will be fixed ASAP! ---- Kind Regards, Alex Nyalita On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The boxes have power backups ..those flex conduits have fiber and power cables in them and that was my concern they are too exposed and easily reachable ...at least Kidero project they did a good job concealing them . On May 25, 2015 11:38 AM, "newton mbugua via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for?
kind regards
Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043
Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
Regards
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The Kenyan way of doing things.. Did they have a team to intelligently design the security camera infrastructure. Their positioning of the backup n what not should have been learnt from thika rd highay lightin distribution or exchange nodes. Sadly the chinkus had to build a massive concrete lifted by a crane to protect the points. Safkom willl soon learn that n go back to plannin n investing thots on that project. I hope also these statition will be manned by professionals, not just some other guys nywea. Sad m glad On Monday, May 25, 2015, Alex Nyalita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am certain someone is taking notes and will be fixed ASAP!
----
Kind Regards,
Alex Nyalita
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
The boxes have power backups ..those flex conduits have fiber and power cables in them and that was my concern they are too exposed and easily reachable ...at least Kidero project they did a good job concealing them . On May 25, 2015 11:38 AM, "newton mbugua via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Some one please school me abit. There are 2 or 3 ip cameras on each pole (i think): exactly whats in the 2 huge metal boxes, and lastly what are ALL the cables for?
kind regards
Mbugua Newton P. Githinji Phone:0715349375
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
*Best Regards,*
__________________________________________________
George Matuthu | Home: (+254) 725 170043
Skype: gmatuthu
*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','drukorio@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
Regards,
David.
.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mumirap@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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When there are no cameras, we complain When there are cameras, we complain Will we ever be satisfied? On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, George Matuthu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I hope they don’t wake up one day and cry the that the software to manage this data is not working. Remember Kidero’s cameras? 400 M shillings then we are told they don’t work cause of missing software! Only in Kenya.
But what’s the point? If they mark my face committing a crime, where are they going to hunt for me? Do they keep bio data digitally?
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*From:* Peter Mumira via skunkworks [mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM *To:* David Rukorio *Cc:* Skunkworks Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] City wide CCTV cameras
All what has been done has not been commissioned and accepted u will see improvements as they go one. Saf is known to have standards in all its installations. Let's wait and see
On May 14, 2015 11:17 AM, "David Rukorio" <drukorio@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeremiah,
I personally feel the logical implementation of this project does not make sense.
Why?
Yes the systems work and are recording a lot of data.Big data will analyse patterns and everything analytics does(from this year onwards).Then what?
Nothing to cross reference and match with!!.(simply you have a bunch of faces that commit a crime then you take 3 to 4 months going through registration files at the ministry of interior(national registry) looking for the name and details attached to that face......this guys are basically stuck in active.
I think Ministry of interior should up their game -have a repository of (face,phone number,DNA,Finger prints)
1.Everybody with a phone number has a face---Use safaricom and get the face during registration.
2.Get all this data during 18+ registration
3.Get the updated details during the year of census.
Plus proper legal framework for that data -last time i checked cctv data is not admissible in kenyan courts.
Only then can we make sense of this!!
On another note,The Berlin wall was built in 1961,Great wall of China B.C---We are seriously building a wall in 2015.
NB:I am not negative,just realistic.
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David.
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Am being positive and I support the project my problem is with the workmanship ,Kidero Camera's were done in a better way the only visible cables are out of reach
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On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Peter Mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
Try vandalizing them and Will be watching you. Be positive
On May 12, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
What's the point of having cameras that can easily be vandalized the cables connecting to the equipment are so exposed and easily reachable .
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participants (16)
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Alex Nyalita -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Bwana Lawi -
David Rukorio -
Dennis Kioko -
George Matuthu -
Henry Kamabi -
Jeremiah Ngure -
Lloyd -
newton mbugua -
Peter Karunyu -
Peter Mumira -
Steve Muchai -
Thuo Wilson -
Tony Gacheru -
Tony Likhanga