@James, It''s a very good idea but you are pitching to the wrong crowd. This list maybe progressive for all other fields including entreprenuerships but not beyond. That is why it is imperative that coders move on to creating more focus groups which will have results in the long term. I cannot imagine that not a single HTML group exists thats pushing its own agenda for the better of their coders. So while e.g. the network group has serious focus on getting to the levels of CCIE and sees the importance of a joint effort, all coders are left to pitching ideas that no one has an interest in. If I take the same example of network group setting goals for becoming CCIEs, then where are the coders aiming towards? Remember, all that free software and pirated software out there is a talent killer and public enemy for us locally. No one on this list has ever come forth and said "Why do you use SugarCRM, screw it, we will give you something done locally". Eventually, the coder sector will die out and we will have more and more of file editors who can tweak for faster results and sales. I'm totally convinced that Skunkslist is not the place for progressive coders, infact it is strongly anti-progressive. We don't lack ideas or the knowledge, we lack the inspiration to do better but these are not within this community list. My mind is made up, either the C# group/list gets going or really time to move on to more motivational code groups out there. Some thots. :-) On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:

Ever since I got my hands on Hoary Hedgehog, The lack of a proper linux Air Combat Flight Sim has been a bother. I have considered filling up that void afew times before to the point of building 3 incomplete aircraft models but development halts due to lack of moral, moral which can be generated when working as a team. Sort of like going to the gym alone versus going as a crew. In former you are more likely to quit after 3 days. XD

Kwa ufupi, is there anyone who can channel some time towards the opensource coding adventure of your life?[?]

This is interesting, this is where I feel at home the most. The whole 3D graphics, modeling and sim, ai, physics, particles etc. Anyways before you go any further are you aware of Flightgear www.flightgear.org/ a linux based flight sim? I used to tinker with it almost a decade ago. It was quite buggy (mainly issues with Linux graphics drivers) after much frustration I moved to Microsoft's Flight sim. I currently have Flight Simulator X. With the SDK, the engine allows you to actually develop your own Missions, add new plane models and extend the World... basically the whole thing is totally open. Now coding a Flight Sim is not for the faint of heart you need to know about the world, environment, generate the maps, texture them, matt paint, models, physics, audio, include a physics routins.... plus dozens of other things to consider. Then you need the proper GPU to code with and test, So you need to consider AMD, ATI, nvidia, intel... etc and if they all work and thats just on a single platform. Last I remember Flightgear took about 10 GB on disk and Ms Flight Simulator X is about 14 GB without the SDK. The sheer amount of texture and world data. The point is, this is very complicated (but I love it). I would recommend doing this as a learning project and a CV pimping activity and strictly that. As far as competing with the sims I have mentioned and others on a production level, it will be many many years and thousands of man hours before that happens. If there is enough interest in this from others then I am ready to put my very very very very little free time to good use. This is something I will really enjoy. So James count me in as long as there is a motivated group of coders that way we can motivate each other to keep making progress Steve ----- Original Message ----- | From: "James Nzomo" <kazikubwa@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:41:26 PM | Subject: [Skunkworks] Are there any Devs on the list interested in | starting a FOSS sim? | Ever since I got my hands on Hoary Hedgehog, The lack of a proper | linux Air Combat Flight Sim has been a bother. | I have considered filling up that void afew times before to the point | of building 3 incomplete aircraft models but development halts due | to lack of moral, moral which can be generated when working as a | team. | Sort of like going to the gym alone versus going as a crew. In former | you are more likely to quit after 3 days. XD | Kwa ufupi, is there anyone who can channel some time towards the | opensource coding adventure of your life? | The objectives (I think) :- | Bring a formidable WW2 Combat Flight Sim to Linux distros (though a | cross platform sim wouldnt hurt much) | Prove to foreign IT investors that local devs are very very 1337. | India's coding BPO biz should be challanged. | Build a verifiable CV. | Bring together local codeheads who can rely on each other for | expertise on different coding areas. | Sharpen your 1337 codding skills. | Whatever other advantages an opensource project brings to you | Find attached an incomplete blender model of a "razorback" P-47 C | thunderbolt - "the jug" | P.S. It will be a GPL v3 FOSS app (God willing) and thus chances of | it being a commercial are very very very nil | Consider it a constructive pass time project that is healthier and | cheaper than drinking. XD | _______________________________________________ | Good judgement comes from Experience. | Most of that comes from Bad Judgement. | _______________________________________________ | _______________________________________________ | Skunkworks mailing list | Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke