Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :- http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html - “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” - The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes - It will charge according to the distance charged Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector Kevin Ouma
Its a great thing .... I hope guys in this list were involved .... anyone?? Question is if it will be sustained we had city hopper come and now they are no different to other mats.... 2009/5/28 Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
- “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” - The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes - It will charge according to the distance charged
Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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What will be the speed of swiping the smart cards?? On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 14:52, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Its a great thing .... I hope guys in this list were involved .... anyone?? Question is if it will be sustained we had city hopper come and now they are no different to other mats....
2009/5/28 Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
- “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” - The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes - It will charge according to the distance charged
Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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"The Smart Buses are intended to ease traffic congestion in the Central Business District (CBD). Passengers headed to the CBD can park their cars at the designated lots and take the buses into the city centre.". Incentives for the motorists?? FAIL. “...keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time." How?? FAIL "....this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes.....". Does that take into account the rapidly changing traffic patterns in this city? Example: as soon as it starts to rain, all roads clog up. How will it handle that - and update you accordingly? "....charge according to the distance charged....". "...pay maybe Sh4 or Sh6 or whatever..." We are having problems with Sh 1 coins. Please bear with us. FAIL. "...ease the regulations requiring all passengers to be seated while travelling by Smart Buses...". Doesn't that conflict with another regulation requiring all passengers seated? possible FAIL? "...colour the matatus or buses and give them a different colour. For example, PSVs plying Buruburu to Kawangware will be given a blue colour and those in different routes another colour..." Fail to understand the point of this. FAIL. Not to mention Mungiki, general Tech-savviness etc etc considered, FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. AFAIK, Murungarus' trams would fare better here. Wake me when the bypasses are built and roundabouts replaced with overpasses. </pessimistic outlook> ----------------------------------------------- On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
- “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” - The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes - It will charge according to the distance charged
Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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www. <goog_1243498658812>*nextbus <goog_1243498658812>*.com <http://www.nextbus.com> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Smart Buses are intended to ease traffic congestion in the Central Business District (CBD). Passengers headed to the CBD can park their cars at the designated lots and take the buses into the city centre.". Incentives for the motorists?? FAIL.
“...keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time." How?? FAIL
"....this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes.....". Does that take into account the rapidly changing traffic patterns in this city? Example: as soon as it starts to rain, all roads clog up. How will it handle that - and update you accordingly?
"....charge according to the distance charged....". "...pay maybe Sh4 or Sh6 or whatever..." We are having problems with Sh 1 coins. Please bear with us. FAIL.
"...ease the regulations requiring all passengers to be seated while travelling by Smart Buses...". Doesn't that conflict with another regulation requiring all passengers seated? possible FAIL?
"...colour the matatus or buses and give them a different colour. For example, PSVs plying Buruburu to Kawangware will be given a blue colour and those in different routes another colour..." Fail to understand the point of this. FAIL.
Not to mention Mungiki, general Tech-savviness etc etc considered, FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. AFAIK, Murungarus' trams would fare better here. Wake me when the bypasses are built and roundabouts replaced with overpasses.
</pessimistic outlook>
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
- “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” - The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes - It will charge according to the distance charged
Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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I hate to wake up a thread about to die but, here goes... I think that we are looking at the whole traffic problem from the wrong perspective., that of a short-lived problem as opposed to a genetically flawed system/country/economy etc. The main problem is that all the 35 million Kenyans need to come to Nairobi for something,..administration, business, money or just simple development. (They may not all make it but they NEED to) It is this NEED to be in Nairobi that needs to be cured satisfactorily. However, as I said, the founders of the kenyan nation/system/economy were too paranoid to let the country grow outwards (far from their control) hence forced it to grow inwards (centralized control and mgt is easier to handle), thus the genetic flaw This actually made sense then,..put your eggs in one basket and watch the basket carefully. But the eggs begin to hatch, grow into chickens that lay more eggs etc etc. At this point it really doesn't matter whether you will put smart buses in the basket, build over-passes, fly overs, etc... it will FAIL as a satisfactory solution. Anybody will simply tell you to develop more baskets to hold the eggs. We need to push our resources as a country to develop (i mean real devt) other places. This means that if I reside in Nakuru I can get every thing that the person in Nairobi gets. Simple! That means a company can be set up in Machakos and do as well as its equal in Nairobi, etc. All the problems in Nairobi would go (housing, crime,traffic jams, lack of radio frequencies, low wages and high costs, the list is endless) Ever been stuck in traffic in Nakuru, Nyeri, Isiolo (etc)? My point exactly! On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:15 +0300, A. Mecca wrote:
www.nextbus.com
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: "The Smart Buses are intended to ease traffic congestion in the Central Business District (CBD). Passengers headed to the CBD can park their cars at the designated lots and take the buses into the city centre.". Incentives for the motorists?? FAIL.
“...keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time." How?? FAIL
"....this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes.....". Does that take into account the rapidly changing traffic patterns in this city? Example: as soon as it starts to rain, all roads clog up. How will it handle that - and update you accordingly?
"....charge according to the distance charged....". "...pay maybe Sh4 or Sh6 or whatever..." We are having problems with Sh 1 coins. Please bear with us. FAIL.
"...ease the regulations requiring all passengers to be seated while travelling by Smart Buses...". Doesn't that conflict with another regulation requiring all passengers seated? possible FAIL?
"...colour the matatus or buses and give them a different colour. For example, PSVs plying Buruburu to Kawangware will be given a blue colour and those in different routes another colour..." Fail to understand the point of this. FAIL.
Not to mention Mungiki, general Tech-savviness etc etc considered, FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. AFAIK, Murungarus' trams would fare better here. Wake me when the bypasses are built and roundabouts replaced with overpasses.
</pessimistic outlook>
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
* “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” * The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes * It will charge according to the distance charged Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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Hear hear! On 5/29/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate to wake up a thread about to die but, here goes...
I think that we are looking at the whole traffic problem from the wrong perspective., that of a short-lived problem as opposed to a genetically flawed system/country/economy etc.
The main problem is that all the 35 million Kenyans need to come to Nairobi for something,..administration, business, money or just simple development. (They may not all make it but they NEED to)
It is this NEED to be in Nairobi that needs to be cured satisfactorily. However, as I said, the founders of the kenyan nation/system/economy were too paranoid to let the country grow outwards (far from their control) hence forced it to grow inwards (centralized control and mgt is easier to handle), thus the genetic flaw
This actually made sense then,..put your eggs in one basket and watch the basket carefully. But the eggs begin to hatch, grow into chickens that lay more eggs etc etc.
At this point it really doesn't matter whether you will put smart buses in the basket, build over-passes, fly overs, etc... it will FAIL as a satisfactory solution.
Anybody will simply tell you to develop more baskets to hold the eggs. We need to push our resources as a country to develop (i mean real devt) other places. This means that if I reside in Nakuru I can get every thing that the person in Nairobi gets. Simple! That means a company can be set up in Machakos and do as well as its equal in Nairobi, etc. All the problems in Nairobi would go (housing, crime,traffic jams, lack of radio frequencies, low wages and high costs, the list is endless)
Ever been stuck in traffic in Nakuru, Nyeri, Isiolo (etc)? My point exactly!
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:15 +0300, A. Mecca wrote:
www.nextbus.com
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote: "The Smart Buses are intended to ease traffic congestion in the Central Business District (CBD). Passengers headed to the CBD can park their cars at the designated lots and take the buses into the city centre.". Incentives for the motorists?? FAIL.
“...keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time." How?? FAIL
"....this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes.....". Does that take into account the rapidly changing traffic patterns in this city? Example: as soon as it starts to rain, all roads clog up. How will it handle that - and update you accordingly?
"....charge according to the distance charged....". "...pay maybe Sh4 or Sh6 or whatever..." We are having problems with Sh 1 coins. Please bear with us. FAIL.
"...ease the regulations requiring all passengers to be seated while travelling by Smart Buses...". Doesn't that conflict with another regulation requiring all passengers seated? possible FAIL?
"...colour the matatus or buses and give them a different colour. For example, PSVs plying Buruburu to Kawangware will be given a blue colour and those in different routes another colour..." Fail to understand the point of this. FAIL.
Not to mention Mungiki, general Tech-savviness etc etc considered, FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. AFAIK, Murungarus' trams would fare better here. Wake me when the bypasses are built and roundabouts replaced with overpasses.
</pessimistic outlook>
-----------------------------------------------
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
Just read on the new smart buses being introduced in Nairobi in 2 weeks. Among the things that caught my attention were :-
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Kenya-Smart-Buses-to-ease-traffic.html
* “They will keep scheduled times so that you will know that at this bus stop, this bus will be here at this particular time,” * The Smart Buses will be using software that enables people to get more information about the routes and times of travel.You can even sms saying that this is the bus stop and it will tell you that the next bus is coming in the next many minutes * It will charge according to the distance charged Does anyone think it will work against the Mungiki infested transport sector
Kevin Ouma
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