Hey guys, I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators. Kindly help. Thanks. Me. -- שִׁמְעוֹן
Try Dynamips http://dynagen.org Kahugu. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
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Shukran Isaac. Will surely check it out. 2009/10/27 Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com>
Try Dynamips
Kahugu.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
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Simon, Let us know how you progress. We have the routers in stock. Alvin On 10/27/09, Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com> wrote:
Try Dynamips
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
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Hey, Check out GNS3 http://www.gns3.net/download It's basicall Dynamips but with a GUI front-end. Me. 2009/10/27 Kahugu Isaac <ikahugu@gmail.com>
Try Dynamips
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version. Its a long shot.... :-)
Hi Sir, You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated." But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that. You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. Regards, Michuki. aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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Hi, Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 regards frank On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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Hi Francis, I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) Me. 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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Touche...... On 10/29/09, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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hi Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer? Packet tracer: let us get to command line - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ... === Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) === Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy. For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3. kind regards, frank On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hey guys, > > I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to > test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such > a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I > see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not > fully-fledged simulators. > > Kindly help. Thanks. > > > Me. > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
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No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"... == System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706 Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately. A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com. Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team --- System Configuration Dialog --- Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no Press RETURN to get started! Router>en Router# Router# == On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to >> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such >> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I >> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not >> fully-fledged simulators. >> >> Kindly help. Thanks. >> >> >> Me. >> Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure... 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
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--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no
Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Me. >>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the > facility with the IOS version. > > Its a long shot.... :-) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Simon, Packet tracer cannot be compared to GNS3/Dynamips.Go for it man it is really good.I am using it.It does most technologies inclusing bgp,mpls etc.But doesnt support ISRs like 18XX,28XX or 38XX. Try the below url for more help or PM me if need be 7200emu.hacki.at On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no
Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sir, > > You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following > > "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, > and > 7200 routers are emulated." > > But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. > > The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to > achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the > 1700 can also do that. > > You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on > Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. > > > Regards, > > Michuki. > > > > aki wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Hey guys, > >>> > >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I > wish to > >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is > there such > >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On > google, all I > >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I > think are not > >>> fully-fledged simulators. > >>> > >>> Kindly help. Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>> Me. > >>> > > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in > years, try > > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may > have the > > facility with the IOS version. > > > > Its a long shot.... :-) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > Other lists > > ------------- > > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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I mean dynamips is good On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Simon,
Packet tracer cannot be compared to GNS3/Dynamips.Go for it man it is really good.I am using it.It does most technologies inclusing bgp,mpls etc.But doesnt support ISRs like 18XX,28XX or 38XX. Try the below url for more help or PM me if need be
7200emu.hacki.at
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi, > > Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 > > regards > frank > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < > michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sir, >> >> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >> >> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, >> and >> 7200 routers are emulated." >> >> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >> >> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >> the >> 1700 can also do that. >> >> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Michuki. >> >> >> >> aki wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey guys, >> >>> >> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >> wish to >> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >> Is there such >> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >> google, all I >> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >> think are not >> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >> >>> >> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Me. >> >>> >> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >> years, try >> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >> may have the >> > facility with the IOS version. >> > >> > Its a long shot.... :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > Other lists >> > ------------- >> > Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> > kazi: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions. With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy. regards, frank On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
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Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
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This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sir, > > You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following > > "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, > and > 7200 routers are emulated." > > But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. > > The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to > achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the > 1700 can also do that. > > You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on > Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. > > > Regards, > > Michuki. > > > > aki wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Hey guys, > >>> > >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I > wish to > >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is > there such > >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On > google, all I > >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I > think are not > >>> fully-fledged simulators. > >>> > >>> Kindly help. Thanks. > >>> > >>> > >>> Me. > >>> > > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in > years, try > > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may > have the > > facility with the IOS version. > > > > Its a long shot.... :-) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > Other lists > > ------------- > > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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@Francis, What do you mean 1%? Check thru the GNS3/Dynamips nicely,it does more than 75% functions of the real router.you can also reboot.It supports almost all the advanced technologies,you just need to know how to twick it around On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi, > > Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 > > regards > frank > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < > michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sir, >> >> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >> >> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, >> and >> 7200 routers are emulated." >> >> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >> >> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >> the >> 1700 can also do that. >> >> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Michuki. >> >> >> >> aki wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey guys, >> >>> >> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >> wish to >> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >> Is there such >> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >> google, all I >> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >> think are not >> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >> >>> >> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Me. >> >>> >> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >> years, try >> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >> may have the >> > facility with the IOS version. >> > >> > Its a long shot.... :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > Other lists >> > ------------- >> > Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> > kazi: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Got me wrong. I said decompressing the image is 1 of many parts that any simulator can do - be it Dynamips, packet tracer, Boson name them. By the way I use GNS3 with Dynamips server as well, I like it and it simulates a 7200 series very well. What I am saying is - GNS3 is perfect for a high end configurations e.g. preparing for a CCIE written/lab. Packet tracer on the other hand is a competent tool, very interactive and good for newbies on static/dynamic routes, packet tracer is competent but it might not simulate mpls/gbp. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
@Francis,
What do you mean 1%? Check thru the GNS3/Dynamips nicely,it does more than 75% functions of the real router.you can also reboot.It supports almost all the advanced technologies,you just need to know how to twick it around
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:24 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
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--- System Configuration Dialog ---
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Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com
wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Francis, > > I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a > toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm > struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) > > > Me. > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > > Hi, >> >> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >> >> regards >> frank >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sir, >>> >>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>> >>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>> 3700, and >>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>> >>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >>> >>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >>> the >>> 1700 can also do that. >>> >>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michuki. >>> >>> >>> >>> aki wrote: >>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >>> wish to >>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >>> Is there such >>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >>> google, all I >>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >>> think are not >>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Me. >>> >>> >>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >>> years, try >>> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >>> may have the >>> > facility with the IOS version. >>> > >>> > Its a long shot.... :-) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > Other lists >>> > ------------- >>> > Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> > kazi: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > שִׁמְעוֹן > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try. Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it. Me. 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
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If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no
Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis,
I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;)
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Hi, > > Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 > > regards > frank > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < > michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sir, >> >> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >> >> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, >> and >> 7200 routers are emulated." >> >> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >> >> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >> the >> 1700 can also do that. >> >> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Michuki. >> >> >> >> aki wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey guys, >> >>> >> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >> wish to >> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >> Is there such >> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >> google, all I >> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >> think are not >> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >> >>> >> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Me. >> >>> >> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >> years, try >> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >> may have the >> > facility with the IOS version. >> > >> > Its a long shot.... :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > Other lists >> > ------------- >> > Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> > kazi: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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After all you wanted to simulate a simple IPsec VPN tunell? Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such a line? call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer == Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# == does this look like calculus to you? On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no
Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com
wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
hi
Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available in packet tracer?
Packet tracer: let us get to command line
- you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing - static routes - dynamic routing - except BGP - multilayer switching - IPsec VPNs - ...
=== Router(config)#rout Router(config)#router ? eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) ===
Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is dangerous to a toy boy.
For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and Redistribution (used GNS3) If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3.
kind regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Francis, > > I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's a > toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm > struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) > > > Me. > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > > Hi, >> >> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >> >> regards >> frank >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sir, >>> >>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>> >>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>> 3700, and >>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>> >>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >>> >>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >>> the >>> 1700 can also do that. >>> >>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michuki. >>> >>> >>> >>> aki wrote: >>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >>> wish to >>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >>> Is there such >>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >>> google, all I >>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >>> think are not >>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Me. >>> >>> >>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >>> years, try >>> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >>> may have the >>> > facility with the IOS version. >>> > >>> > Its a long shot.... :-) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > Other lists >>> > ------------- >>> > Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> > kazi: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > שִׁמְעוֹן > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now. Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com
wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
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Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer?
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
> hi > > Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. If > you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do you > have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not available > in packet tracer? > > Packet tracer: let us get to command line > > - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing > - static routes > - dynamic routing - except BGP > - multilayer switching > - IPsec VPNs > - ... > > > === > Router(config)#rout > Router(config)#router ? > eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) > ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) > === > > Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is > dangerous to a toy boy. > > For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and > Redistribution (used GNS3) > If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use GNS3. > > kind regards, > frank > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Francis, >> >> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's >> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm >> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >> >> >> Me. >> >> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >> >> Hi, >>> >>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>> >>> regards >>> frank >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sir, >>>> >>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>> >>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>> 3700, and >>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>> >>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >>>> >>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to >>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >>>> the >>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>> >>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Michuki. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> aki wrote: >>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I >>>> wish to >>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. >>>> Is there such >>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >>>> google, all I >>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >>>> think are not >>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Me. >>>> >>> >>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >>>> years, try >>>> > Cisco Config Maker. 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Simon...finally!!! so have u purchased the 1841 yet? Alvin. On 10/29/09, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image > and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? > > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > >> hi >> >> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. >> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do >> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not >> available in packet tracer? >> >> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >> >> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >> - static routes >> - dynamic routing - except BGP >> - multilayer switching >> - IPsec VPNs >> - ... >> >> >> === >> Router(config)#rout >> Router(config)#router ? >> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >> === >> >> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is >> dangerous to a toy boy. >> >> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >> Redistribution (used GNS3) >> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >> GNS3. >> >> kind regards, >> frank >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Francis, >>> >>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's >>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm >>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>> >>> >>> Me. >>> >>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>> >>>> regards >>>> frank >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>> >>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>>> >>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>> 3700, and >>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>> >>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >>>>> >>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying >>>>> to >>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >>>>> the >>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>> >>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Michuki. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> aki wrote: >>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. >>>>> I wish to >>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >>>>> google, all I >>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >>>>> think are not >>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Me. >>>>> >>> >>>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >>>>> years, try >>>>> > Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it >>>>> may have the >>>>> > facility with the IOS version. >>>>> > >>>>> > Its a long shot.... :-) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> > Other lists >>>>> > ------------- >>>>> > Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> > Science: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> > kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> שִׁמְעוֹן >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > שִׁמְעוֹן > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Ok Guys, I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information. I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later. Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon. Regards Themburu On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what seck9 means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and let me baptize you in the name of "confi t"...
== System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory.
Self decompressing the image : ########################################################################## [OK] Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50
This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption. Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at: http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to export@cisco.com.
Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 191K bytes of NVRAM. 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no
Press RETURN to get started!
Router>en Router# Router# ==
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image > and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? > > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > >> hi >> >> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. >> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for GNS3. Do >> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is not >> available in packet tracer? >> >> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >> >> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >> - static routes >> - dynamic routing - except BGP >> - multilayer switching >> - IPsec VPNs >> - ... >> >> >> === >> Router(config)#rout >> Router(config)#router ? >> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >> === >> >> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is >> dangerous to a toy boy. >> >> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >> Redistribution (used GNS3) >> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >> GNS3. >> >> kind regards, >> frank >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Francis, >>> >>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, it's >>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, which I'm >>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>> >>> >>> Me. >>> >>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>> >>>> regards >>>> frank >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>> >>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>>> >>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>> 3700, and >>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>> >>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though. >>>>> >>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying >>>>> to >>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think >>>>> the >>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>> >>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on >>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Michuki. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> aki wrote: >>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. >>>>> I wish to >>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On >>>>> google, all I >>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I >>>>> think are not >>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Me. >>>>> >>> >>>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in >>>>> years, try >>>>> > Cisco Config Maker. 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OMG a loving this thread, so we have real network engineers here!!! ./Chuks On 10/29/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Guys,
I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information.
I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later.
Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon.
Regards Themburu
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring them? I doubt, but not so sure...
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
> No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an > example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what > seck9 > means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and > let me > baptize you in the name of "confi t"... > > == > System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. > > Self decompressing the image : > ########################################################################## > [OK] > Restricted Rights Legend > > Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is > subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph > (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted > Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph > (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer > Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. > > cisco Systems, Inc. > 170 West Tasman Drive > San Jose, California 95134-1706 > > > > Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version > 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) > Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport > Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. > Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team > Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 > > > This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United > States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and > use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply > third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use > encryption. > Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for > compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product > you > agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are > unable > to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately. > > A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be > found at: > http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html > > If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email > to > export@cisco.com. > > > Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. > Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E > M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 > 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) > 191K bytes of NVRAM. > 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) > Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version > 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) > Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport > Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. > Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team > > > --- System Configuration Dialog --- > > Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no > > > Press RETURN to get started! > > > > Router>en > Router# > Router# > == > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image >> and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? >> >> >> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >> >>> hi >>> >>> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. >>> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for >>> GNS3. Do >>> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is >>> not >>> available in packet tracer? >>> >>> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >>> >>> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >>> - static routes >>> - dynamic routing - except BGP >>> - multilayer switching >>> - IPsec VPNs >>> - ... >>> >>> >>> === >>> Router(config)#rout >>> Router(config)#router ? >>> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >>> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >>> === >>> >>> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is >>> dangerous to a toy boy. >>> >>> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >>> Redistribution (used GNS3) >>> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >>> GNS3. >>> >>> kind regards, >>> frank >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Francis, >>>> >>>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, >>>> it's >>>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, >>>> which I'm >>>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> Me. >>>> >>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>>>> >>>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>>> 3700, and >>>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>>> >>>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees >>>>>> though. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying >>>>>> to >>>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i >>>>>> think >>>>>> the >>>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add >>>>>> on >>>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michuki. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> aki wrote: >>>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. >>>>>> I wish to >>>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? >>>>>> >>> On >>>>>> google, all I >>>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which >>>>>> >>> I >>>>>> think are not >>>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Me. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco >>>>>> > in >>>>>> years, try >>>>>> > Cisco Config Maker. 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probably more of them than you had imagined...... On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
OMG a loving this thread, so we have real network engineers here!!!
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On 10/29/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Guys,
I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information.
I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later.
Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon.
Regards Themburu
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" amounts to 1% of the simulator's functions.
With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot the router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove the faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers to another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a real boy.
regards, frank
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
> But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully > simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring > them? I > doubt, but not so sure... > > > 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> > >> No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is an >> example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew what >> seck9 >> means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent and >> let me >> baptize you in the name of "confi t"... >> >> == >> System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) >> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >> >> Self decompressing the image : >> ########################################################################## >> [OK] >> Restricted Rights Legend >> >> Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is >> subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph >> (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted >> Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph >> (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer >> Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. >> >> cisco Systems, Inc. >> 170 West Tasman Drive >> San Jose, California 95134-1706 >> >> >> >> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version >> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >> Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 >> >> >> This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United >> States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and >> use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply >> third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use >> encryption. >> Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for >> compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product >> you >> agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are >> unable >> to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately. >> >> A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be >> found at: >> http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html >> >> If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email >> to >> export@cisco.com. >> >> >> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >> Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E >> M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 >> 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) >> 191K bytes of NVRAM. >> 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) >> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version >> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >> >> >> --- System Configuration Dialog --- >> >> Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no >> >> >> Press RETURN to get started! >> >> >> >> Router>en >> Router# >> Router# >> == >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image >>> and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? >>> >>> >>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>> >>>> hi >>>> >>>> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than enough. >>>> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go for >>>> GNS3. Do >>>> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is >>>> not >>>> available in packet tracer? >>>> >>>> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >>>> >>>> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >>>> - static routes >>>> - dynamic routing - except BGP >>>> - multilayer switching >>>> - IPsec VPNs >>>> - ... >>>> >>>> >>>> === >>>> Router(config)#rout >>>> Router(config)#router ? >>>> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >>>> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >>>> === >>>> >>>> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun is >>>> dangerous to a toy boy. >>>> >>>> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >>>> Redistribution (used GNS3) >>>> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >>>> GNS3. >>>> >>>> kind regards, >>>> frank >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Francis, >>>>> >>>>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, >>>>> it's >>>>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, >>>>> which I'm >>>>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Me. >>>>> >>>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> frank >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>>>> 3700, and >>>>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees >>>>>>> though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are trying >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michuki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> aki wrote: >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. >>>>>>> I wish to >>>>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? >>>>>>> >>> On >>>>>>> google, all I >>>>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which >>>>>>> >>> I >>>>>>> think are not >>>>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Kindly help. Thanks. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Me. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> > Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco >>>>>>> > in >>>>>>> years, try >>>>>>> > Cisco Config Maker. 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OMG..............this is Hilarius...........LOL On 10/29/09, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
probably more of them than you had imagined......
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
OMG a loving this thread, so we have real network engineers here!!!
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On 10/29/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok Guys,
I have read this thread like I was witnessing a defense case on a humorous kenyan court. @Simon if you have time use either and walk the talk yourself now that you have received the information.
I really like the thread now that I know there a quite a few guys who know their networks well here, at some time I thot his forum is full of developers we should now really contributed. I got my own mind bogging issues but I shall start a new thread on it later.
Best luck Simon, hope to hear ur view soon.
Regards Themburu
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Get serious man! we are busy talking about mpls/bgp ... then you drop such
a line?
call me whatever activist you call me. but look at this "cisco 1841 with seck9 capability" extract from packet tracer
== Router#sho crypto ? ipsec Show IPSEC policy isakmp Show ISAKMP key Show long term public keys map Crypto maps Router#sho crypto % Incomplete command. Router# ==
does this look like calculus to you?
I beg your pardon.. was that directed at me? If so, then forgive me but I don't remember talking about IPSec and VPN tunnel... I was talking about loading IOS images into a simulated router. And the activist bit.. I think you took it a little too seriously... it was in line with that rat joke. Anyway, sorry for stirring your anger/strong reaction, but I think I thanked all for their input and settled for GNS3. But that doesn't mean Packet Tracer is bad, in fact, I believe it's very good. So I hope we are all a happy lot now.
Enjoy your lunch :)
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hehehe... looks like you are an animal right activist, Francis. you really want me to use your toy gun on my rat. I need a bazooka coz I want to load a K9 advanced security image. I realize that dynamips doesn't support 1800 series, so I obtained an IOS image for a 2691 and a 2600, which I want to try.
Anyway, thanks guys for your input. I appreciate it.
Me.
2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>
> Yes, it has limitations (like any other software in the world). > Well, you load .bin files in dynamips/GNS. ptracer has pre-configured > images. In my opinion, "loading IOS bin files to configuring them" > amounts > to 1% of the simulator's functions. > > With packet tracer; you can load a cisco 1841, reload it, cold boot > the > router, Go shopping to San Francisco and buy an E1 WIC card, remove > the > faulty card and fix a new one, redistribute your eigrp/ospf routers > to > another simulator in a different machine ... Simon, this toy needs a > real > boy. > > regards, > frank > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Simon Mbuthia < > simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But doesn't packet tracer have limited functionality? Can it fully >> simulate a real router, from loading IOS bin files to configuring >> them? I >> doubt, but not so sure... >> >> >> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >> >>> No, once you install your paket tracer you are good to go. This is >>> an >>> example of self decompressing image on an cisco1841. If you knew >>> what >>> seck9 >>> means in C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M image, by now you should repent >>> and >>> let me >>> baptize you in the name of "confi t"... >>> >>> == >>> System Bootstrap, Version 12.3(8r)T8, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) >>> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >>> >>> Self decompressing the image : >>> ########################################################################## >>> [OK] >>> Restricted Rights Legend >>> >>> Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is >>> subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph >>> (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted >>> Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph >>> (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer >>> Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013. >>> >>> cisco Systems, Inc. >>> 170 West Tasman Drive >>> San Jose, California 95134-1706 >>> >>> >>> >>> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), >>> Version >>> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >>> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >>> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >>> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >>> Image text-base: 0x60080608, data-base: 0x6270CD50 >>> >>> >>> This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to >>> United >>> States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer >>> and >>> use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply >>> third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use >>> encryption. >>> Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for >>> compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product >>> you >>> agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are >>> unable >>> to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product >>> immediately. >>> >>> A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may >>> be >>> found at: >>> http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html >>> >>> If you require further assistance please contact us by sending >>> email >>> to >>> export@cisco.com. >>> >>> >>> Cisco 1841 (revision 5.0) with 114688K/16384K bytes of memory. >>> Processor board ID FTX0947Z18E >>> M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49 >>> 2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) >>> 191K bytes of NVRAM. >>> 63488K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write) >>> Cisco IOS Software, 1841 Software (C1841-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), >>> Version >>> 12.4(15)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) >>> Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport >>> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc. >>> Compiled Wed 18-Jul-07 04:52 by pt_team >>> >>> >>> --- System Configuration Dialog --- >>> >>> Continue with configuration dialog? [yes/no]: no >>> >>> >>> Press RETURN to get started! >>> >>> >>> >>> Router>en >>> Router# >>> Router# >>> == >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me that I can load an IOS image >>>> and fully configure a router in Packet Tracer? >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> hi >>>>> >>>>> Hehehe ... for an 1841 router - packet tracer is more than >>>>> enough. >>>>> If you have all the time/resources to download the IOS then go >>>>> for >>>>> GNS3. Do >>>>> you have anything specific that you are trying on an 1841 that is >>>>> not >>>>> available in packet tracer? >>>>> >>>>> Packet tracer: let us get to command line >>>>> >>>>> - you can do vlans and inter-vlan routing >>>>> - static routes >>>>> - dynamic routing - except BGP >>>>> - multilayer switching >>>>> - IPsec VPNs >>>>> - ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> === >>>>> Router(config)#rout >>>>> Router(config)#router ? >>>>> eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) >>>>> ospf Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) >>>>> === >>>>> >>>>> Why would you call this uzi a toy gun? ... oh ... but a toy gun >>>>> is >>>>> dangerous to a toy boy. >>>>> >>>>> For my BSCI I used packet tracer until I reached BGP and >>>>> Redistribution (used GNS3) >>>>> If you were talking about anything above 3500 series - then use >>>>> GNS3. >>>>> >>>>> kind regards, >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Francis, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been using Packet Tracer for some time... the thing is, >>>>>> it's >>>>>> a toy gun. A toy gun can't kill a rat. I downloaded GNS3 though, >>>>>> which I'm >>>>>> struggling to get working, but thanks for the heads up tho ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Me. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/10/29 francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> frank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi < >>>>>>> michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sir, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the >>>>>>>> following >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, >>>>>>>> 3700, and >>>>>>>> 7200 routers are emulated." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees >>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The other option is to give more details on what you are >>>>>>>> trying >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 1700 can also do that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michuki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> aki wrote: >>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < >>>>>>>> simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> I am looking for simulation software for the subject >>>>>>>> >>> router. >>>>>>>> I wish to >>>>>>>> >>> test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a >>>>>>>> purchase. Is there such >>>>>>>> >>> a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? >>>>>>>> >>> On >>>>>>>> google, all I >>>>>>>> >>> see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, >>>>>>>> >>> which >>>>>>>> >>> I >>>>>>>> think are not >>>>>>>> >>> fully-fledged simulators. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Kindly help. 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<humour> ...for a VERY_BIG_FACTOR of RAT???... </humour> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Why buy a gun to kill a rat? try cisco packet tracer 5.0 or 5.1
regards frank
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Sir,
You ought to note that Dynagen GNS3 only supports the following
"As of Dynamips 0.2.8-RC1 and Dynagen 0.10.0 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700, and 7200 routers are emulated."
But you could try if you have an 1841 image no guarantees though.
The other option is to give more details on what you are trying to achieve on the 1841 - if you want to do the Voice modules i think the 1700 can also do that.
You will however be limited to the kind of modules you can add on Dynagen/GNS3 as well. So see its feature lists.
Regards,
Michuki.
aki wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Simon Mbuthia < simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
Hey Simon, this info maybe outdated as have not used a cisco in years, try Cisco Config Maker. Though I never used the IOS stuff on it, it may have the facility with the IOS version.
Its a long shot.... :-)
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Try GNS3. You will need the IOS separately. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] Cisco 1841 Router Simulator Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:31:03 +0300 Hey guys, I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators. Kindly help. Thanks. Me. -- שִׁמְעוֹן _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Dynagen and gn3 require you ti have the cisco IOS image..... ./bernard On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote:
Try GNS3. You will need the IOS separately.
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*Subject*: [Skunkworks] Cisco 1841 Router Simulator *Date*: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:31:03 +0300
Hey guys,
I am looking for simulation software for the subject router. I wish to test an IOS file on a virtual router before making a purchase. Is there such a thing as that? Kind of like a VM equivalent of a router? On google, all I see is Boson and such things... Cisco Cert. Labs etc, which I think are not fully-fledged simulators.
Kindly help. Thanks.
Me.
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George Njoroge -
Gichuki John Chuksjonia -
John Gitau -
Kahugu Isaac -
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Michuki Mwangi -
MotoBaridi -
Net Net -
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