Hey Guys I need to some information, what are the limitations of the cisco 1841 router? In terms of capacity, scaling and expansion. I also need much information on Cisco High end routers and Firewall/VPN devices besides the device product sheet is there anywhere can find this consolidated information? This is due to the expansions Im undertaking so good advice shall come in handy. Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html i hope this will help! On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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Hi George FAQ on 1841: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... regards the father On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu <lyndirangu22@gmail.com>wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu <lyndirangu22@gmail.com>wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu <lyndirangu22@gmail.com>wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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Good Question Net Net I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu <lyndirangu22@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Hey Net Net True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider. Regards Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
Regards Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html > > > i hope this will help! > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
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Sup Net Net I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr? -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
Hi For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi George > > FAQ on 1841: > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... > > regards > the father > > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < > lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >> >> >> i hope this will help! >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
Regards Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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@Net Net, thanks, that's good info. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote:
> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your > requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info > > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi George >> >> FAQ on 1841: >> >> >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >> >> regards >> the father >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>> >>> >>> i hope this will help! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
Regards Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: > >> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi George >>> >>> FAQ on 1841: >>> >>> >>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>> >>> regards >>> the father >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> i hope this will help! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > Good Question Net Net > > I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate > information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network > requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, > Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. > > > -- > Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new > untried. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill? Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point? -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
George contact me offlist for router pricings. Email below. Alvin SALES DEPARTMENT Greenline Technology Limited IT Hardware and Software Solutions 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza, Mukoma Road. Email :info@greenline.co.ke +254 20 651755 / 552086 +254 20 2425225 / 2429743 +254 20 559841 +254 722-219938/733-610758 Mon-Fri (8-5pm) Print only when necessary On 11/2/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
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Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It > si > an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several > services,esp a > modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for > voice > i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a > wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is > on a 3G > platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you > can add > IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge > <themburu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net >> <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good >>> info >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau >>> <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi George >>>> >>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>> >>>> regards >>>> the father >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki >>>>> <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> >> Good Question Net Net >> >> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are >> network >> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access >> Policies, >> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >> >> >> -- >> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >> untried. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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@George, The ISP should not charge you for allowing you set up bgp with,it is their duty to do so,but if you dont know how to set up on your end that is when they will charge to configure your end. Fo On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote:
> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It > si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp > a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice > i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a > wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G > platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add > IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi George >>>> >>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>> >>>> regards >>>> the father >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> >> Good Question Net Net >> >> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >> information on particular devices. 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Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
@George,
The ISP should not charge you for allowing you set up bgp with,it is their duty to do so,but if you dont know how to set up on your end that is when they will charge to configure your end.
Fo
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It >> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp >> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice >> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a >> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G >> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add >> IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau < >>>> kfransys@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi George >>>>> >>>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> the father >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>>>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Good Question Net Net >>> >>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network >>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, >>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>> untried. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > Hey Net Net > > True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses > (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such > that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. > I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need > to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the > 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? > Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion > design are there additional factors you would consider. > > Regards > Themburu > -- > Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new > untried. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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Haha, thanks Net Net I have been taking those BSCI classes and I'm ready to take on any routing protocol out there. @Jason, just inbox me that info on gmburu@cellulant.com. -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
Cool man! For the router price just ping @Jason,thogh if you wanted new ones @good prices with SmartNet I could recommend you try out a Cisco partner.We currently have 2 Cisco Gold Partners in town and several more than 10 premier partners who should give you competitive prices. All the best man On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
@George,
The ISP should not charge you for allowing you set up bgp with,it is their duty to do so,but if you dont know how to set up on your end that is when they will charge to configure your end.
Fo
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is > redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your > network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to > go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your > budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought. > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It >>> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp >>> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice >>> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a >>> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G >>> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add >>> IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge < >>> themburu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau < >>>>> kfransys@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi George >>>>>> >>>>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> the father >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>>>>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good Question Net Net >>>> >>>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >>>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network >>>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, >>>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>>> untried. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> Hey Net Net >> >> True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized >> businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server >> network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long >> term plan. >> I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I >> need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding >> abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? >> Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion >> design are there additional factors you would consider. >> >> Regards >> Themburu >> -- >> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >> untried. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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Haha, thanks Net Net I have been taking those BSCI classes and I'm ready to take on any routing protocol out there. @Jason, just inbox me that info on gmburu@cellulant.com.
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@George, There new Cisco 2900 generation2 series ISR routers in the market. You can check them out; http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10537/products_data_sheets_list.html http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps10598/ordering_guide_c0... On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote:
> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It > si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp > a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice > i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a > wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G > platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add > IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi George >>>> >>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>> >>>> regards >>>> the father >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < >>>> lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> >> Good Question Net Net >> >> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network >> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, >> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >> >> >> -- >> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >> untried. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
Hey Net Net
True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion design are there additional factors you would consider.
Regards Themburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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Hi George, A Cisco 2851 is a good router too especially with your growth projections. Check out the the link; http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5882/index.html Stan Ngure On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:14 PM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@George, There new Cisco 2900 generation2 series ISR routers in the market. You can check them out;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10537/products_data_sheets_list.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps10598/ordering_guide_c0...
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It >> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp >> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice >> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a >> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G >> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add >> IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau >>>> <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi George >>>>> >>>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> the father >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu >>>>> <lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> >>> >>> Good Question Net Net >>> >>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network >>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, >>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >>> >>> -- >>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>> untried. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > > > Hey Net Net > > True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses > (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such > that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. > I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need > to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the > 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? > Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion > design are there additional factors you would consider. > Regards > Themburu > -- > Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new > untried. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill? Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point? -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Stan Ngure <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi George,
A Cisco 2851 is a good router too especially with your growth projections.
Check out the the link;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5882/index.html
Stan Ngure
Also see Cisco TechWiseTV video broadcast "Routers Are Dead. Long Live the Router!", in there; 1. The new range of ISR Gen 2. routers. 2. Interesting IOS 15! <-- notable 3. USB console <-- inbuilt Com converter. Overall informative for all. R D
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:14 PM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@George, There new Cisco 2900 generation2 series ISR routers in the market. You can check them out;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10537/products_data_sheets_list.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps10598/ordering_guide_c0...
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have
bgp
running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is > redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your > network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to > go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your > budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought. > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com
> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It >>> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp >>> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice >>> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a >>> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G >>> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add >>> IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge < themburu@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau >>>>> <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi George >>>>>> >>>>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> the father >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu >>>>>> <lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good Question Net Net >>>> >>>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >>>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network >>>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, >>>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>>> untried. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >> Hey Net Net >> >> True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses >> (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such >> that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan. >> I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need >> to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the >> 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? >> Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion >> design are there additional factors you would consider. >> Regards >> Themburu >> -- >> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >> untried. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Sup Net Net
I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill? Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point? -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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On the BGP issue, it really depends on WHY you want to run the protocol. If for instance you only connect to one ISP,are not connecting any clients then I suggest you don't run bgp with the ISP. It just complicates your life, probably for no added benefit; they'll probably just for ward a default route to you anyway. I say this because very few ISP's in Kenya actually even bother receiving the full internet routing tables. Even fewer need it. If its just for playing around with ( I saw something about BSCI) umm I guess you can use your discretion, but your ISP has to be willing to help you play. JGitau On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Stan Ngure <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi George,
A Cisco 2851 is a good router too especially with your growth projections.
Check out the the link;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5882/index.html
Stan Ngure
Also see Cisco TechWiseTV video broadcast "Routers Are Dead. Long Live the Router!", in there;
1. The new range of ISR Gen 2. routers.
2. Interesting IOS 15! <-- notable
3. USB console <-- inbuilt Com converter.
Overall informative for all.
R
D
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:14 PM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@George, There new Cisco 2900 generation2 series ISR routers in the market. You can check them out;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10537/products_data_sheets_list.html
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps10598/ordering_guide_c0...
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your choice.This will work very fine
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is >> redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on >> your >> network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are >> good to >> go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so >> if your >> budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought. >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge >> <themburu@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big >>>> office.It >>>> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several >>>> services,esp >>>> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use >>>> it for voice >>>> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can >>>> add a >>>> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN >>>> is on a 3G >>>> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security >>>> bundle,you can add >>>> IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and >>>> scalable. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge >>>> <themburu@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your >>>>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite >>>>>> good info >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau >>>>>> <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi George >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FAQ on 1841: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> the father >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu >>>>>>> <lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i hope this will help! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps. >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> Other lists >>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>> Announce: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>>> Science: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>>> kazi: >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> Other lists >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> Announce: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>>> Science: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>>> kazi: >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good Question Net Net >>>>> >>>>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate >>>>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider >>>>> are network >>>>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, >>>>> Access Policies, >>>>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or >>>>> growth. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>>>> untried. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> Other lists >>>>> ------------- >>>>> Announce: >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>>> kazi: >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Announce: >>>> >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> >>> Hey Net Net >>> >>> True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized >>> businesses >>> (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server >>> network such >>> that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term >>> plan. >>> I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I >>> need >>> to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was >>> finding abt the >>> 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series? >>> Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion >>> design are there additional factors you would consider. >>> Regards >>> Themburu >>> -- >>> Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new >>> untried. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > > Sup Net Net > > I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont > think > it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number. > Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr? > > -- > Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new > untried. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Good info guys and I like it much. I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if they do such ama they will drop me another high bill? Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end ISR rotuers can I consider at this point? -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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@Net Net, the 1841 is a good router but can't support a call manager ie. CCME. An 1861 can for 15 users only but its not modular and rather expensive ($5495 GPL). @George, There many factors to consider when choosing a router: 1. No. of users in your LAN and bandwidth requirements? 2. Interfaces required to your ISP ie.HWIC? 3. If call manager is required, for how many users? 4. QoS required? Different routers and IOSs have different capabilities. In triple play enviroment, I would recommend QoS. 5. MPLS configurations required? Most providers using MPLS require to configure VRFs and BGP on your router. 6. Scalability plans? I hope this paint a good picture for you. *My favourite router is the cisco 2811. Its modular, can handle most HWICs, CCME can support 25 ip phones, QoS capable, can do VPNs (IPsec, GRE , MPLS) e.t.c On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add IPS module for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau <kfransys@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi George
FAQ on 1841:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80...
regards the father
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu < lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
i hope this will help!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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Good Question Net Net
I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies, Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
-- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.
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