Hi George,

A Cisco 2851 is a good router too especially with your growth projections.

Check out the the link;

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5882/index.html

Stan Ngure

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:14 PM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
> @George, There new Cisco 2900 generation2 series ISR routers in the market.
> You can check them out;
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10537/products_data_sheets_list.html
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/modules/ps10598/ordering_guide_c07_557736_ps10537_Products_Data_Sheet.html
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Net Net, thanks, that's good info.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> For bgp,it is not a must for you to have your own AS number to have bgp
>>>> running.Just talk to your ISPs and you can use a private AS number of your
>>>> choice.This will work very fine
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well for whatever you have stated,what you need is
>>>>>> redundancy/multihoming with 2 providers which means doing bgp on your
>>>>>> network.For this,1841 is still good.But talk of 2800,then your are good to
>>>>>> go and it take care of all the needs you stated earlier and more,so if your
>>>>>> budget allows for a 2800,please have no other thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let us start with 1841--Very good router for a not so big office.It
>>>>>>>> si an Intergrated Services Router(ISR) meaning supports several services,esp
>>>>>>>> a modular one is vwey good for expansion purposes for u can use it for voice
>>>>>>>> i.e as a callmanager instead of installing a legacy PABX,u can add a
>>>>>>>> wireless module for the LAN. You can add a 3G module if your WAN is on a 3G
>>>>>>>> platform,you can upgrade your IOS to an advanced security bundle,you can add
>>>>>>>> IPS module  for secutiry....I mean the router is goood and scalable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Net Net <bgp.peers@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you dont need info from Cisco site,then post here your
>>>>>>>>>> requirements/what you want to archieve and you will get quite good info
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM, francis kamau
>>>>>>>>>> <kfransys@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi George
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FAQ on 1841:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5853/prod_qas0900aecd80181208.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>> the father
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:08 PM, lydiah ndirangu
>>>>>>>>>>> <lyndirangu22@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5853/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i hope this will help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @George. consider these : cpu, memory and pps.
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good Question Net Net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I need to expand/scale my network for that I need adequate
>>>>>>>>> information on particular devices. What I also need to consider are network
>>>>>>>>> requirements for this design ie WANs , VPNs, remote access, Access Policies,
>>>>>>>>> Distribusion , Security etc. and mostly adapt to change or growth.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Net Net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True 1841 is an ISR rtr but used for small-to-medium-sized businesses
>>>>>>> (SMBs), Im hoping to eventually have two ISP's for my server network such
>>>>>>> that if one ISP is down the other is active but thats a long term plan.
>>>>>>> I need a rtr soonest but I dont need to buy one then find that I need
>>>>>>> to replace it in 5 months due to expansion needs hence I was finding abt the
>>>>>>> 1841 - so are the 2800 ISR series the next above the 1800 series?
>>>>>>> Also besides the earlier outlined factors for network expansion
>>>>>>> design are there additional factors you would consider.
>>>>>>> Regards
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>>>>>
>>>>> Sup Net Net
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also been thinking abt bgp for multiple ISP's but I dont think
>>>>> it is economical due the charges involved in getting an AS number.
>>>>> Have you ever run bgp, what are the resource requirements for a rtr?
>>>>>
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>>
>> Good info guys and I like it much.
>> I didn't my ISP can give me a private AS no, Im using UUNet do u know if
>> they do such ama they will drop me another high bill?
>> Abt the rtrs how much are the 1841 and 2811 locally. I think I need
>> atleast 4 HWIC's and 2 E1 cards and 2 Serial ports. Also what other high end
>> ISR rotuers can I consider at this point?
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