@Brian, Don't worry about it. *It's their preference*. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:

And may I ask, why female? Just curious.

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...

Hello,

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There are times some organizations will insist on a particular gender - we should not question such, I believe, because they have their reasons. I don't see that as discriminatory. Perhaps they've had bad experience with males and so would like to try a female. Perhaps they want to maintain some gender balance within the organization. Saying it seems discriminatory is a bit short-sighted. However, you do not expect an employer to explain to you why they are specific about a certain gender for a given position. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:

@Wash,

I know it's their preference, but like I said, I was curious. It seems discriminatory to me.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:

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@Brian,

Don't worry about it. *It's their preference*.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:

...

And may I ask, why female? Just curious.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Pithon Kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

A Female IT (web) and communications officer is needed , Please contact Derrick Waithanje (derikwa@gmail.com) for more details

Kind Regards

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I am just a messenger :) On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Benjamin <anangwe@gmail.com> wrote:

Haiya Pithon that is called opening a can of beez ngoja watu watoke lunch.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:

...

And may I ask, why female? Just curious.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Pithon Kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello,

A Female IT (web) and communications officer is needed , Please contact Derrick Waithanje (derikwa@gmail.com) for more details

Kind Regards

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They won't advertise specifics, but will simply shortlist MALES ONLY. For some roles, especially those involving physical labour, this is the rule, not the exception. Yes, HR is a murky world. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why no one ever advertises for 'Male I.T'? Maybe it's ok to discriminate against 'males' but COMPLETELY WRONG to commit such an inhumane act against the ladies! :)

On 29 Jan 2013, at 14:09, Pithon Kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

A Female IT (web) and communications officer is needed , Please contact Derrick Waithanje (derikwa@gmail.com) for more details

Kind Regards

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@Wash, I beg to differ, if viewed from a legal defense perspective. @Brian has a constitutionally granted freedom of expression, which includes freedom to express his *curiosity*. But as is usual, this has a limit. For example, in exercising his right to expression, he may not infringe on the rights of others. It becomes interesting when you look at the section on equality in the bill of rights, which says that one cannot be discriminated against based on gender, among other things. So, if @Brian had loads of time and money, he would have a legal backing to sue the said employer, in which case, the employer would have the task of proving to the courts that by employing a male in the said position, that would be infringing on their right... But if they used the same reasons you gave as to the need for a specific gender in a certain position, I doubt if they would have a strong case. IMHO, companies which advertise a gender specific vacancy are legally ill-informed. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why no one ever advertises for 'Male I.T'? Maybe it's ok to discriminate against 'males' but COMPLETELY WRONG to commit such an inhumane act against the ladies! :)

On 29 Jan 2013, at 14:09, Pithon Kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

A Female IT (web) and communications officer is needed , Please contact Derrick Waithanje (derikwa@gmail.com) for more details

Kind Regards

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i am the first lady to dare comment on this thread....I saw communication and bowed my head, because i find people mildly irritating, but they have to be dealt with, like a ringing phone or a knock on the door when you are in the middle of a game .... I know some men that are better communicators than I. Moving on, Pithon is just a messenger, aim your guns elsewhere gentlemen! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:

It says "IT and communications" so the choice of preferred gender could be because of the content to be managed or delivered

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He he he, as i said i am just a messenger :) On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Benjamin <anangwe@gmail.com> wrote:

@Eva we were enjoying eating him alive but point taken

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i am the first lady to dare comment on this thread....I saw communication and bowed my head, because i find people mildly irritating, but they have to be dealt with, like a ringing phone or a knock on the door when you are in the middle of a game .... I know some men that are better communicators than I.

Moving on, Pithon is just a messenger, aim your guns elsewhere gentlemen!

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, <thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:

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It says "IT and communications" so the choice of preferred gender could be because of the content to be managed or delivered

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oh bummer!!! @Majala my apologies :) On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Majala Mlagui <majala@maarifa.co.ke> wrote:

@Eva , you're number 2. We're many ladies, just not with names that will point to the obvious.

Miss Majala.

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In government institutions gender balance has become a PC target. On 1/29/2013 6:32 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:

I remember back at work in another company - we went for Team Building - and we realized that we were in a major sausage fest ...

Out of about 60 something guys in the two buses - starting from the managers - down to us KYMs - there were only 2 ladies - and their work was to take care of us (office wise)

It was then that we requested HR to stop hiring guys and start getting in the ladies ...

<nb - i dont work for topic of discussion company >

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