Re: [Skunkworks] Queen bee shake-up: the Chinese connection
Rumour is major fraud among the big wigs. �Haven't heard bout the chinese angle to it. But there is absolutely no reason to cross breed a goose that lays Golden eggs. �Unless it delivers 5 eggs hides one and declares 4. �This is all pure conjecture but i agree with Kiania. KG For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela� ----- Original message ----- From: "Nicholas Mutinda" <mutindah@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Queen bee shake-up: the Chinese connection Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:49:40 +0300 If Bob has to perform, then he has to let go of the top management (especially) with stiff competition and harder times ahead, he needs guys who appreciate cost cutting and strategy that keeps the company competitive. The management there now were employed when sf started and they have the "monopoly" mindset and that is why they still run back to govt when competition gets stiff. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: Thought so too - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so if its being fixed, it must have broken ./Ok3ch On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with �indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected �Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting business as usual watch this space.
On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric
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> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but has > nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen bee > after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" activity > at > their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can > claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's opted > for a more tactical and methodical surgery. > > The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry ... > next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives him > a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. Who > said Bobby is a place holder? > > I love corporate politics. > > David,
I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn?
The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture yes, but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word also has it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the Kenyan govt systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest level. KACC must be having all the knowledge.
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Kingori, Saw the story on NTV, I guess the unreliable undependable source just racked up credibility points. Larry Madowo that was a great piece. Well according to insiders all C-level positions should be filled within a week. Sounds like the decision has been made already, it takes longer to decide between pasta and noddles. Kiania D On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, King'ori Gitahi <kingorigitahi@ovi.com> wrote:
Rumour is major fraud among the big wigs. Haven't heard bout the chinese angle to it. But there is absolutely no reason to cross breed a goose that lays Golden eggs. Unless it delivers 5 eggs hides one and declares 4. This is all pure conjecture but i agree with Kiania.
KG
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----- Original message ----- From: "Nicholas Mutinda" <mutindah@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Queen bee shake-up: the Chinese connection Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:49:40 +0300
If Bob has to perform, then he has to let go of the top management (especially) with stiff competition and harder times ahead, he needs guys who appreciate cost cutting and strategy that keeps the company competitive. The management there now were employed when sf started and they have the "monopoly" mindset and that is why they still run back to govt when competition gets stiff.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thought so too - if it ain't broke, don't fix it - so if its being fixed, it must have broken
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Think about it why change or shakeup an exceptionally performing winning team?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:46 PM, David Kandie <dkipkulei@gmail.com> wrote:
Joseph, you have spoken. The shareholders are also watching if he can fit to Michael's shoes.
On 3/14/11, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add ...CEOs come with different briefs, Michael grew the business, Bob has to show better ratios, less capital employed to earn a shilling,improvement of percent profit over operating income et al, They are competing with indian firms and this rightsizing will shock many the signs are there,affected Staffers should simply look for jobs.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont think the shake-up is about the Chinese connection,it is a common corporate practice.It happened at EABL as well.
It is called the 7s (Strategy,Structure,System,Staff,Skills,Style and Shared Values). Every corporate will come with is new set of the 7s.
Mr.Bob has his *strategy* so he has to get a *structure* which will support the strategy.Unfortunately that structure will affect the *staff*because the structure has defined *skill* set required to perform.Lastly you need new people to get new management *style.*
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joe Maina <maina307@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am seeing a scenario where KACC will get bitten coz its interrupting > business as usual watch this space. > > On 14 March 2011 11:24, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting >> Ltd < >> kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This comes from a highly unreliable and undependable source but >>> has >>> nuggets of truth. Apparently Bob has instituted changes at Queen >>> bee >>> after getting a dossier from KACC on Chinese "brown envelop" >>> activity >>> at >>> their highest ranks. It's apparent very few of the politburo can >>> claim to be above reproach and instead of a public flogging he's >>> opted >>> for a more tactical and methodical surgery. >>> >>> The result of who goes and who stays will surprise all and sundry >>> ... >>> next 7 days will be critical keep watching the news. It also gives >>> him >>> a chance to assert his own management team and determine agenda. >>> Who >>> said Bobby is a place holder? >>> >>> I love corporate politics. >>> >>> >> David, >> >> I take cognizance of your opening disclaimer, but I'd still love to >> wonder why KACC did not just take the bulls by the horn? >> >> The Chinese are known (reputed) for their "brown envelop" culture >> yes, >> but if KACC can do this, then we are not fighting corruption! Word >> also >> has >> it that the Chinese are so much involved in projects within the >> Kenyan >> govt >> systems, courtesy of "brown envelops" changing hands at the highest >> level. >> KACC must be having all the knowledge. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> Damn!! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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