To seasoned network gurus......
Way back in the 90's when we used to create RAS services via 14.4kbps/33.6kbps on serial and DUN lines/E1 lines, did you ever design a system that complete crashed and not allow authentication? Me, I've never ever ever seen a RAS system that has authetication problems ( unless someone stole the users password ). Some RAS authentication would be via winNT ( sp1 ) or accounts via nix. kwani what has changed so much that even basic things like authetication go down ? Share you thots... Rgds. -- Sign on my car is " L " plates : c#.net
Something has changed, Some one is going open source full blown without tunning the freebies!!!. Regards, The optimist sees the doughnut; the pessimist the hole. --- On Fri, 8/14/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: From: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> Subject: [Skunkworks] To seasoned network gurus...... To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 2:03 AM Way back in the 90's when we used to create RAS services via 14.4kbps/33.6kbps on serial and DUN lines/E1 lines, did you ever design a system that complete crashed and not allow authentication? Me, I've never ever ever seen a RAS system that has authetication problems ( unless someone stole the users password ). Some RAS authentication would be via winNT ( sp1 ) or accounts via nix. kwani what has changed so much that even basic things like authetication go down ? Share you thots... Rgds. -- Sign on my car is " L " plates : c#.net -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:03 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Way back in the 90's when we used to create RAS services via 14.4kbps/33.6kbps on serial and DUN lines/E1 lines, did you ever design a
OMG, nostalgia just struck....... I remember using Equinox SST multiserial boards to build a 128-port terminal server with portslave on linux. Damn, those were the days. And yes, we were using 14400 baud modems. Regards, Steve
:-) Steve, did the authentication ever go down? Never, au sio? I miss those days, on 33.6kbps modems we could easily do was today ati egde, 3g+ or wimax crap! Difference today is always ON. Authetication via Radius AAA was so easy and backed up.
OMG, nostalgia just struck....... I remember using Equinox SST multiserial boards to build a 128-port terminal server with portslave on linux. Damn, those were the days. And yes, we were using 14400 baud modems.
Regards, Steve
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:08 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
:-) Steve, did the authentication ever go down? Never, au sio? I miss those
Yeah, RADIUS server used to die once in a while, and nobody could log in. I remember once it died for quite a while, and somehow we turned auth off....so users could connect as we worked on the auth box. I feel like such a dinosaur! Regards, Steve
Weee! you were probably using a radius on those 486DX clones that used to heat if the cpu fan picked dust. But at least you opened the auth portion, so many did not get affected. Am in the dino ago too. Anyone remember voip on 56k modems? This was too funny. Jambo Jambo bwana ( jambonet ) used to get furious! Ati you are doing strange things, we know your ip address, we will increase your charges. LOL! ( I was not at that layer ).
Yeah, RADIUS server used to die once in a while, and nobody could log in.
I remember once it died for quite a while, and somehow we turned auth off....so users could connect as we worked on the auth box.
I feel like such a dinosaur!
Regards, Steve
Please, pls let me write this ONE! jambo jambo bwana ( jambonet ) had a constant packet loss of 3-10%, everday and every night! There were 3 connections I remember : BT ( the best ), Teleglobe and another via newark. hehehehe!...
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:34 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Weee! you were probably using a radius on those 486DX clones that used to heat if the cpu fan picked dust. But at least you opened the auth portion, so many did not get affected. Am in the dino ago too. Anyone remember voip on 56k modems? This was too funny. Jambo Jambo bwana ( jambonet ) used to get furious! Ati you are doing strange things, we know your ip address, we
I particularly loved it when they blocked VOIP traffic, then we simply tunneled it out via - not even IPSEC - a GRE tunnel. Regarding the connections, once upon a time we ran a 64k Kenstream link to UK. That was an entire ISP running off that. C'mon dinosaurs, share your experiences!! Mich, Brian, Wash, Wycliffe, Okechukwu....where are you? Regards, Steve
Steve, Steve Muchai wrote:
C'mon dinosaurs, share your experiences!! Mich, Brian, Wash, Wycliffe, Okechukwu....where are you?
lol! ... you clearly dont want us started on all that past .... Anyways, first i had radius running and the backup was on my desktop pc (on a windows box). I learned that after some incident with one of the servers, so i rebuilt the second one on my PC to keep working before we could restore the primary. With time i finally put it on a spare server (all windows). I also had to deal with dual logins - and had to get a tool that would kick out the second logged in person. Before finally upgrading to some radius that understood single logins. Anyone recall Lucent Portmaster 2 with 30 serial ports?. That was the master of all dialups. Then some clients with email servers on dialup we had to assign a static IP so that they could do ETRN for email forwarding. Bu then again we had lines everywhere and having a roaming IP was a nightmare on network that was fully static IP routing!. Some clients had bad dialin lines so we had to reduce their MTU on dialup - Folks from Karen we could actually hear KBC radio on just placing the receiver on the ear. Winsock dll - what was that? Tumetoka mbali! :) Mich
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
Steve,
Steve Muchai wrote:
C'mon dinosaurs, share your experiences!! Mich, Brian, Wash, Wycliffe, Okechukwu....where are you?
lol! ... you clearly dont want us started on all that past ....
Anyways, first i had radius running and the backup was on my desktop pc (on a windows box). I learned that after some incident with one of the servers, so i rebuilt the second one on my PC to keep working before we could restore the primary. With time i finally put it on a spare server (all windows).
I also had to deal with dual logins - and had to get a tool that would kick out the second logged in person. Before finally upgrading to some radius that understood single logins.
Anyone recall Lucent Portmaster 2 with 30 serial ports?. That was the master of all dialups.
Then some clients with email servers on dialup we had to assign a static IP so that they could do ETRN for email forwarding.
Bu then again we had lines everywhere and having a roaming IP was a nightmare on network that was fully static IP routing!.
Some clients had bad dialin lines so we had to reduce their MTU on dialup - Folks from Karen we could actually hear KBC radio on just placing the receiver on the ear.
Winsock dll - what was that?
Tumetoka mbali! :)
Mich
This is truly nostalgic! Those RS232 cables on several racks of MultiTech/Zyxel modems which kept on hanging because of insufficient cooling in squeezed server rooms. Air conditioners were expensive so fans would do. We never did Windows servers though, having inherited some 2nd hand hardware (MD used to boast of those having been used by US military before!), running some BSDi Unix. Do you guys remember how prestigious it was to get a Unix shell account and do "talk smuchai" during one of those events where you had to provide Internet via dialup? Did that severally at Muthaiga Gold Club. There were moments we had to install Windows 3.11 (for workgroups) and Windows 95 (12 diskettes, were they??). I don't quite remember if Microsoft existed, apart from the fact that they developed Windows. Licenses were not an issue then. Woe unto you if one of the diskettes could not be read:-) And then DUN would simply refuse to work. Someone developed a tool called Trumpet Winsock. And noisy lines? AT&FS10=50 custom init string ???? Off to get some cold beer:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
I remember carrying Windun 2.0 diskettes! to client sites to upgrade the windows dialup client. And also putting fancy AT strings to force the modem to connect on say v.34(33.6) for newer modems trying to do funny stuff on TKL lines. @mich You remembered Karen i raise you 2; Lower Kabete and Runda. R D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michuki Mwangi<michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote:
Steve,
Steve Muchai wrote:
C'mon dinosaurs, share your experiences!! Mich, Brian, Wash, Wycliffe, Okechukwu....where are you?
lol! ... you clearly dont want us started on all that past ....
Anyways, first i had radius running and the backup was on my desktop pc (on a windows box). I learned that after some incident with one of the servers, so i rebuilt the second one on my PC to keep working before we could restore the primary. With time i finally put it on a spare server (all windows).
I also had to deal with dual logins - and had to get a tool that would kick out the second logged in person. Before finally upgrading to some radius that understood single logins.
Anyone recall Lucent Portmaster 2 with 30 serial ports?. That was the master of all dialups.
Then some clients with email servers on dialup we had to assign a static IP so that they could do ETRN for email forwarding.
Bu then again we had lines everywhere and having a roaming IP was a nightmare on network that was fully static IP routing!.
Some clients had bad dialin lines so we had to reduce their MTU on dialup - Folks from Karen we could actually hear KBC radio on just placing the receiver on the ear.
Winsock dll - what was that?
Tumetoka mbali! :)
Mich
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@Mich, Wash, Denis, Steve! LOL! Who can forget win3.1 work group.....My most memorable time was with kenpac ccts. Boy! were terminals real stoneage then, DOS windows with F key founctions. I remember what got me started in comms: motorola codex with was it X121 addressing? What is an Ip address, you say? Best part I ever did was setting up a serial printer as a telex via the motorola on a leased analogue line. Both ends needed expensive leaseline modems and dip switch settings....That thing printed! Magic..... And please, let us not forget Netscape browser and finally Y2K bug! I missed the New years party in Dec 31st 1999........ :-)
Denis, Remember the first site you used to open immediately you report to office: http://www.modemsite.com/56k/dunserror.asp Kiiru On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Mich, Wash, Denis, Steve! LOL! Who can forget win3.1 work group.....My most memorable time was with kenpac ccts. Boy! were terminals real stoneage then, DOS windows with F key founctions. I remember what got me started in comms: motorola codex with was it X121 addressing? What is an Ip address, you say? Best part I ever did was setting up a serial printer as a telex via the motorola on a leased analogue line. Both ends needed expensive leaseline modems and dip switch settings....That thing printed! Magic.....
And please, let us not forget Netscape browser and finally Y2K bug! I missed the New years party in Dec 31st 1999........ :-)
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michuki Mwangi<michuki@swiftkenya.com> wrote:
Steve,
Steve Muchai wrote:
C'mon dinosaurs, share your experiences!! Mich, Brian, Wash, Wycliffe, Okechukwu....where are you?
lol! ... you clearly dont want us started on all that past ....
Anyways, first i had radius running and the backup was on my desktop pc (on a windows box). I learned that after some incident with one of the servers, so i rebuilt the second one on my PC to keep working before we could restore the primary. With time i finally put it on a spare server (all windows).
I also had to deal with dual logins - and had to get a tool that would kick out the second logged in person. Before finally upgrading to some radius that understood single logins.
I vaguely remember some tool that did a finger to check if a user was appearing online, then terminate the session - think it was ctlportslave or something like that.
Anyone recall Lucent Portmaster 2 with 30 serial ports?. That was the master of all dialups.
YES YES YES!!! and they were caled Livingston, before Lucent bought them!
Then some clients with email servers on dialup we had to assign a static IP so that they could do ETRN for email forwarding.
Yeah, until domain-pop collection came up.....
Winsock dll - what was that?
That was the file we all carried, several versions of, on diskettes just in case you found it was missing..... BR, S
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