I am one frustrated developer (yes yes I know I am not supposed to call myself a developer but WTH!). Why is it so difficult for these large formal companies to appreciate the facts that: 1. Give your programmers a nice office preferably with views of the sky or traffic 2. Allow them to dress down most of the time 3. Allow them to work flexible hours, i.e. focus more on the products they produce than the time they spend seated at their desks 4. Give them the tools, hardware and software, that they crave 5. Give them an immediate boss who knows his/her stuff 6. Pay them just well enough to enable them NOT worry about the cost of living but not so well that they start thinking of buying a BMW X3 Then, challenging the living daylights out of them will almost inevitably lead to unique and innovative products that will earn the company lots of money/customers/street cred etc Or am I living in some sort of code induced coma? I would love to know how the developers at AT, Craft Silicon, Virtual City work... :-)
When u realize that, then its time to move on and allow the younger generation to take your place :-) ./Ok3ch On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I am one frustrated developer (yes yes I know I am not supposed to call myself a developer but WTH!).
Why is it so difficult for these large formal companies to appreciate the facts that:
1. Give your programmers a nice office preferably with views of the sky or traffic 2. Allow them to dress down most of the time 3. Allow them to work flexible hours, i.e. focus more on the products they produce than the time they spend seated at their desks 4. Give them the tools, hardware and software, that they crave 5. Give them an immediate boss who knows his/her stuff 6. Pay them just well enough to enable them NOT worry about the cost of living but not so well that they start thinking of buying a BMW X3
Then, challenging the living daylights out of them will almost inevitably lead to unique and innovative products that will earn the company lots of money/customers/street cred etc
Or am I living in some sort of code induced coma?
I would love to know how the developers at AT, Craft Silicon, Virtual City work... :-)
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I agree on the flexible hours part. Sometimes we prefer to work late night and not show up at 9 am just coz we have to, thats crap. But atleast I get to walk around in socks On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
When u realize that, then its time to move on and allow the younger generation to take your place :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I am one frustrated developer (yes yes I know I am not supposed to call myself a developer but WTH!).
Why is it so difficult for these large formal companies to appreciate the facts that:
1. Give your programmers a nice office preferably with views of the sky or traffic 2. Allow them to dress down most of the time 3. Allow them to work flexible hours, i.e. focus more on the products they produce than the time they spend seated at their desks 4. Give them the tools, hardware and software, that they crave 5. Give them an immediate boss who knows his/her stuff 6. Pay them just well enough to enable them NOT worry about the cost of living but not so well that they start thinking of buying a BMW X3
Then, challenging the living daylights out of them will almost inevitably lead to unique and innovative products that will earn the company lots of money/customers/street cred etc
Or am I living in some sort of code induced coma?
I would love to know how the developers at AT, Craft Silicon, Virtual City work... :-)
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Hehehee! Now you have started to get the motivation of seeking your career freedom, freedom to do what you wish, just keep thinkin on that soon you will answer it by quiting setting your own company and then you employee will start to complain the same way you are now On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree on the flexible hours part. Sometimes we prefer to work late night and not show up at 9 am just coz we have to, thats crap. But atleast I get to walk around in socks
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
When u realize that, then its time to move on and allow the younger generation to take your place :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I am one frustrated developer (yes yes I know I am not supposed to call myself a developer but WTH!).
Why is it so difficult for these large formal companies to appreciate the facts that:
1. Give your programmers a nice office preferably with views of the sky or traffic 2. Allow them to dress down most of the time 3. Allow them to work flexible hours, i.e. focus more on the products they produce than the time they spend seated at their desks 4. Give them the tools, hardware and software, that they crave 5. Give them an immediate boss who knows his/her stuff 6. Pay them just well enough to enable them NOT worry about the cost of living but not so well that they start thinking of buying a BMW X3
Then, challenging the living daylights out of them will almost inevitably lead to unique and innovative products that will earn the company lots of money/customers/street cred etc
Or am I living in some sort of code induced coma?
I would love to know how the developers at AT, Craft Silicon, Virtual City work... :-)
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Really, I know of employees who turn up at 8 and leave at 5, and do nothing for days. And I know of some who report at 12 and leave the office at 9 pm and do tons of work. strange that employers are more secure on seeing their employees than having work delivered.
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/AboutMe.html A nice read. "*our goal was simply to build the kind of software company where we would want to work, one in which programmers and software developers are the stars and everything else serves only to make them productive and happy*" On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Really, I know of employees who turn up at 8 and leave at 5, and do nothing for days. And I know of some who report at 12 and leave the office at 9 pm and do tons of work.
strange that employers are more secure on seeing their employees than having work delivered.
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