Bidii Afrika Spam: Back, bigger and better (spamming)

Well it seems the group was allowed back with a no-spam policy. Solution, register a domain with endless spamming mail address. I just received 3 spam mails from different mail addresses @ bidiiafrika.com maybe we should start exercising our legal options, if any. -- with Regards: Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com

I've gotten all the domains that I own or influence to blacklist that domain entirely and I encourage everyone to do the same . these guys are the very definition of impunity! On 9/17/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well it seems the group was allowed back with a no-spam policy. Solution, register a domain with endless spamming mail address. I just received 3 spam mails from different mail addresses @ bidiiafrika.com maybe we should start exercising our legal options, if any.
-- with Regards:
Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

This is another plethora of headache on the way. Who has contacts for Google Kenya? Mass forced subscription to this group, is my concern! On 17/09/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I've gotten all the domains that I own or influence to blacklist that domain entirely and I encourage everyone to do the same . these guys are the very definition of impunity!
On 9/17/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well it seems the group was allowed back with a no-spam policy. Solution, register a domain with endless spamming mail address. I just received 3 spam mails from different mail addresses @ bidiiafrika.com maybe we should start exercising our legal options, if any.
-- with Regards:
Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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They aint using google, the have registered a new domain, http://bidiiafrika.com/pipermail/bidiiafrika_bidiiafrika.com/2009-September/.... All you may need to do is rm-rf /dev/null, LOL!, take ur time On 9/17/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
This is another plethora of headache on the way. Who has contacts for Google Kenya? Mass forced subscription to this group, is my concern!
On 17/09/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I've gotten all the domains that I own or influence to blacklist that domain entirely and I encourage everyone to do the same . these guys are the very definition of impunity!
On 9/17/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well it seems the group was allowed back with a no-spam policy. Solution, register a domain with endless spamming mail address. I just received 3 spam mails from different mail addresses @ bidiiafrika.com maybe we should start exercising our legal options, if any.
-- with Regards:
Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy On 17/09/2009, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
They aint using google, the have registered a new domain, http://bidiiafrika.com/pipermail/bidiiafrika_bidiiafrika.com/2009-September/....
All you may need to do is rm-rf /dev/null, LOL!, take ur time
On 9/17/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
This is another plethora of headache on the way. Who has contacts for Google Kenya? Mass forced subscription to this group, is my concern!
On 17/09/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I've gotten all the domains that I own or influence to blacklist that domain entirely and I encourage everyone to do the same . these guys are the very definition of impunity!
On 9/17/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well it seems the group was allowed back with a no-spam policy. Solution, register a domain with endless spamming mail address. I just received 3 spam mails from different mail addresses @ bidiiafrika.com maybe we should start exercising our legal options, if any.
-- with Regards:
Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
blog: http://desires-and-dreams.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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-- with Regards: Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy
I think they are not using googlegroups now. They have registered a domain name and hosted it on a server where Mailman is being used so addresses from googlegroups have been imported into Mailman. If you ask me, in the absence of forced subscription, and if they allow users to unsubscribe themselves, the way it is implemented now is quite acceptable. It's the way mailing lists are supposed to be. So let's not show animosity towards them unless we can find justification for it. ** Na mimi sio member ** -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Even on Facebook.... Bidii Afrika aka Robert Alai is really spamming !!!!! On 9/18/09, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy
I think they are not using googlegroups now. They have registered a domain name and hosted it on a server where Mailman is being used so addresses from googlegroups have been imported into Mailman. If you ask me, in the absence of forced subscription, and if they allow users to unsubscribe themselves, the way it is implemented now is quite acceptable. It's the way mailing lists are supposed to be. So let's not show animosity towards them unless we can find justification for it.
** Na mimi sio member **
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Hey, You all are a little harsh on Bidii. Robert is doing quite some work in our web industry and I think once in a while its good to give credit where it belongs even when crude methods are used. I was also subscribed without my knowledge but I was able to unsubscribe so instead of spending hours discussing him, lets just unsubscribe and continue with our work. I can assure you something, Robert is among the few Kenyans who have so far benefited from his efforts on the web. If you have been a pioneer in this industry, its painful and hard to break through. Lets support each other instead of bashing each other. David. http://blog.majibu.com On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy
I think they are not using googlegroups now. They have registered a domain name and hosted it on a server where Mailman is being used so addresses from googlegroups have been imported into Mailman. If you ask me, in the absence of forced subscription, and if they allow users to unsubscribe themselves, the way it is implemented now is quite acceptable. It's the way mailing lists are supposed to be. So let's not show animosity towards them unless we can find justification for it.
** Na mimi sio member **
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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David, I have worked with Robert in the IT Industry also for many years and I agree with you.... If I was able to unsubscribe then I would not be complaining..... This issue has even been in the papers in Pulse magazine !!!! On 9/18/09, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,
You all are a little harsh on Bidii. Robert is doing quite some work in our web industry and I think once in a while its good to give credit where it belongs even when crude methods are used. I was also subscribed without my knowledge but I was able to unsubscribe so instead of spending hours discussing him, lets just unsubscribe and continue with our work. I can assure you something, Robert is among the few Kenyans who have so far benefited from his efforts on the web. If you have been a pioneer in this industry, its painful and hard to break through.
Lets support each other instead of bashing each other.
David. http://blog.majibu.com
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy
I think they are not using googlegroups now. They have registered a domain name and hosted it on a server where Mailman is being used so addresses from googlegroups have been imported into Mailman. If you ask me, in the absence of forced subscription, and if they allow users to unsubscribe themselves, the way it is implemented now is quite acceptable. It's the way mailing lists are supposed to be. So let's not show animosity towards them unless we can find justification for it.
** Na mimi sio member **
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in. David. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
David,
I have worked with Robert in the IT Industry also for many years and I agree with you....
If I was able to unsubscribe then I would not be complaining.....
This issue has even been in the papers in Pulse magazine !!!!
On 9/18/09, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,
You all are a little harsh on Bidii. Robert is doing quite some work in our web industry and I think once in a while its good to give credit where it belongs even when crude methods are used. I was also subscribed without my knowledge but I was able to unsubscribe so instead of spending hours discussing him, lets just unsubscribe and continue with our work. I can assure you something, Robert is among the few Kenyans who have so far benefited from his efforts on the web. If you have been a pioneer in this industry, its painful and hard to break through.
Lets support each other instead of bashing each other.
David. http://blog.majibu.com
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
they are still using google groups, but instead of forced subscriptions, they own a domain whose sole purpose is to spam you to submission. i think google gave them a no-forced subscription and spamming policy. what they are now doing is technically within the above policy
I think they are not using googlegroups now. They have registered a domain name and hosted it on a server where
Mailman
is being used so addresses from googlegroups have been imported into Mailman. If you ask me, in the absence of forced subscription, and if they allow users to unsubscribe themselves, the way it is implemented now is quite acceptable. It's the way mailing lists are supposed to be. So let's not show animosity towards them unless we can find justification for it.
** Na mimi sio member **
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent? That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to. Everyone on Skunkworks is here because *they chose to join*. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. *Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them*. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.

A.M.E.N to that Rad! p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol! On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it. Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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Well, that is like the devil claiming that churches owe their strongest sermons to him, its true in a way but for all the wrong reasons! On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 11:04 +0300, Theus Owicho wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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BTW...I got to know about skunkworks through Bidii. I admit that skunkworks is one of the best resources I have but that doesnt discredit where I got it from... David. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Well, that is like the devil claiming that churches owe their strongest sermons to him, its true in a way but for all the wrong reasons!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 11:04 +0300, Theus Owicho wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com>wrote:
Well, that is like the devil claiming that churches owe their strongest sermons to him, its true in a way but for all the wrong reasons!
LOL. That's a nice one, Davis! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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unsolicited email = spam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29 Cheers V On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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Spot on V !!! On 9/18/09, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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-- Victor Ngeny
Mobile +254718688999 GTalk: victormaritim Twitter: @ngeny Yahoo: vikngne Skype: victor.ngeny

Now Theus, imagine 10 of us sending you 3 mails a day telling you how good our businesses are? The problem is not the end, but the means. The guy is free to pay for google adverts, facebook adverts and those magnate boards. But please spare our mail boxes. If bidii is good enough for us, we will join. I dont remember facebook sending anyone 3 mails a day to join them, or forcefully recruiting me and telling me i can leave, yet they got 300 million users. you guys are just making your way up spam blacklists, and then users will be unable to access bidii afrika since it will be swallowed by spam filters. On 18/09/2009, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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-- Victor Ngeny
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-- with Regards: Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com

I find this debate highly disturbing. The onus is on the list owner to prove he / she is not spamming. If all it takes is complaining to the host, who / what stops everyone on bidii writing to the hosts to complain that skunkworks is spanning, or bidii, or young professionals, or any other list for that matter? Wouldnt this approach render groups vulnerable to their enemies? On 9/18/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now Theus, imagine 10 of us sending you 3 mails a day telling you how good our businesses are? The problem is not the end, but the means. The guy is free to pay for google adverts, facebook adverts and those magnate boards. But please spare our mail boxes. If bidii is good enough for us, we will join. I dont remember facebook sending anyone 3 mails a day to join them, or forcefully recruiting me and telling me i can leave, yet they got 300 million users. you guys are just making your way up spam blacklists, and then users will be unable to access bidii afrika since it will be swallowed by spam filters.
On 18/09/2009, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote: > With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me > wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been > in. > > David. > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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-- Victor Ngeny
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Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

evidence, the same way gmail will blacklist a domain after several people " report spam" On 18/09/2009, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I find this debate highly disturbing. The onus is on the list owner to prove he / she is not spamming. If all it takes is complaining to the host, who / what stops everyone on bidii writing to the hosts to complain that skunkworks is spanning, or bidii, or young professionals, or any other list for that matter? Wouldnt this approach render groups vulnerable to their enemies?
On 9/18/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Now Theus, imagine 10 of us sending you 3 mails a day telling you how good our businesses are? The problem is not the end, but the means. The guy is free to pay for google adverts, facebook adverts and those magnate boards. But please spare our mail boxes. If bidii is good enough for us, we will join. I dont remember facebook sending anyone 3 mails a day to join them, or forcefully recruiting me and telling me i can leave, yet they got 300 million users. you guys are just making your way up spam blacklists, and then users will be unable to access bidii afrika since it will be swallowed by spam filters.
On 18/09/2009, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote: > You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step > to > unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A > group that subscribed me without my consent? > > That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will > in > no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check > on > twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about > the > mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to. > > Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But > BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully > subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, > Robert > The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed > founded > the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the > internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to > mailing lists without their consent is spamming them. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> > wrote: > > With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont > get me > > wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i > have been > > in. > > > > David. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I find this debate highly disturbing. The onus is on the list owner to prove he / she is not spamming. If all it takes is complaining to the host, who / what stops everyone on bidii writing to the hosts to complain that skunkworks is spanning, or bidii, or young professionals, or any other list for that matter? Wouldnt this approach render groups vulnerable to their enemies
its quite easy for any competent hosting provider to verify if it is a valid case of spam... especially in the case where there are bulk-mails going out.

If you visit the groups link @ http://groups.google.co.ke/group/bidii-afrika, there is a message saying you can't send a comment because you are not subscribed to it. Interestingly, I get mails from the group yet I am not a subscriber. Spamming is not helping at all. The problem I have is I was forcefully subscribed and unsubscribing is not working. Nikunoma! On 18/09/2009, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I find this debate highly disturbing. The onus is on the list owner to prove he / she is not spamming. If all it takes is complaining to the host, who / what stops everyone on bidii writing to the hosts to complain that skunkworks is spanning, or bidii, or young professionals, or any other list for that matter? Wouldnt this approach render groups vulnerable to their enemies
its quite easy for any competent hosting provider to verify if it is a valid case of spam... especially in the case where there are bulk-mails going out. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Solomon I think that you need some back to IT class lessons. If even an IT person is saying that he is getting mails he doesnt want, how will I trust you with my system which is more complicated than a simple email address? I think that somepeople in this network are just bashing Bidii to gain mileage. Maybe they are so blank mpaka when such a topic comes then its the only one they can talk about On 9/18/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
If you visit the groups link @ http://groups.google.co.ke/group/bidii-afrika, there is a message saying you can't send a comment because you are not subscribed to it. Interestingly, I get mails from the group yet I am not a subscriber. Spamming is not helping at all. The problem I have is I was forcefully subscribed and unsubscribing is not working. Nikunoma!
On 18/09/2009, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info> <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I find this debate highly disturbing. The onus is on the list owner to prove he / she is not spamming. If all it takes is complaining to the host, who / what stops everyone on bidii writing to the hosts to complain that skunkworks is spanning, or bidii, or young professionals, or any other list for that matter? Wouldnt this approach render groups vulnerable to their enemies
its quite easy for any competent hosting provider to verify if it is a valid case of spam... especially in the case where there are bulk-mails going out. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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In other words, Theus, Alai, and Co. , Chema chajiuza. Simple. On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 08:31 +0000, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Now Theus, imagine 10 of us sending you 3 mails a day telling you how good our businesses are? The problem is not the end, but the means. The guy is free to pay for google adverts, facebook adverts and those magnate boards. But please spare our mail boxes. If bidii is good enough for us, we will join. I dont remember facebook sending anyone 3 mails a day to join them, or forcefully recruiting me and telling me i can leave, yet they got 300 million users. you guys are just making your way up spam blacklists, and then users will be unable to access bidii afrika since it will be swallowed by spam filters.
On 18/09/2009, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote: > With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me > wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been > in. > > David. > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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Davis Can we start by being open here. How many lists based in Kenya forces people to join it? Count and if you cant count then you have a problem. Infact I dont think that you get SPAM from Bidii as much as you get from others. And BidiiAfrika does not even send more than 8 emails in a day as per yesterday You guys have no case here and mostly what we have is political and ethnic ranting veiled as real criticism. Just the way Jimmy Carter said that critics on Obama were racist I believe we have ethnic chauvinists and malingerers backed by politicians pretending to be real critics Read from http://groups.google.com/group/bidii-afrika and tell me what the new members are saying. Infact they missed it despite being in other forums. We see this criticism coming from one ethnic group, is it by coincidence? No. We have simple chauvinists here On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
In other words, Theus, Alai, and Co. , Chema chajiuza. Simple.
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 08:31 +0000, Dennis Kioko wrote:
Now Theus, imagine 10 of us sending you 3 mails a day telling you how good our businesses are? The problem is not the end, but the means. The guy is free to pay for google adverts, facebook adverts and those magnate boards. But please spare our mail boxes. If bidii is good enough for us, we will join. I dont remember facebook sending anyone 3 mails a day to join them, or forcefully recruiting me and telling me i can leave, yet they got 300 million users. you guys are just making your way up spam blacklists, and then users will be unable to access bidii afrika since it will be swallowed by spam filters.
On 18/09/2009, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com> wrote:
unsolicited email = spam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28email%29
Cheers V
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com>wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote: > You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to > unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A > group that subscribed me without my consent? > > That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in > no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on > twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the > mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to. > > Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But > BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully > subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert > The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded > the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the > internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to > mailing lists without their consent is spamming them. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> > wrote: > > With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont > get me > > wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i > have been > > in. > > > > David. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions
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It depends on who of you solicit spam in your inboxes from anywhere else? How many of you get mails from people offering to elongate your private parts and even suicide? There is positive SPAM I guess. Robin Hood maybe On 9/18/09, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote:
The point here '' is unsolicited mail SPAM ?? ''........LOL
On 9/18/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Haters haters haters. Bidiiafrika is there with or without skunkworks. You will talk and even hang yourself. Go to the new bidiiafrika and see how they were missing it.
Skunkworks owe its most active threads to bidii. Nothing else
On 9/18/09, Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka@gmail.com> wrote:
A.M.E.N to that Rad!
p.s. @ whether you single handed founded the internet.. too much! lol!
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:08 +0300, Rad! wrote:
You guys cannot be serious! Why should I be forced to take the step to unsubscribe from a group I never subscribed to in the first place? A group that subscribed me without my consent?
That is SPAM in every sense of the word. Unsolicited email. I will in no way shape or form entertain such absurdity. Ask around and check on twitter the number of people that been bitterly complaining about the mails he received from a mailing list they never subscribed to.
Everyone on Skunkworks is here because they chose to join. But BidiiAfrika is taking it too far by harvesting emails and forcefully subscribing people. Whether you are Robert Alai, Robert Mugabe, Robert The Muppet or Robert the smurf, and whether you single handed founded the internet and are one of the few Kenyans benefiting from the internet (huh?) is neither here nor there. Subscribing people to mailing lists without their consent is spamming them.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
With mailman now in place, you should be able to unsubscribe. Dont get me wrong, am not working with Robert, I just feel him in a position i have been in.
David.
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
This is another plethora of headache on the way. Who has contacts for Google Kenya? Mass forced subscription to this group, is my concern!
If its not hosted with google ... look for the hosting provider and contact them-- most hosting providers have pretty strict anti-spam TOS
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Alvin Jason Ochieng
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Areba Collins
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ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info
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David Mugo
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Davis Waithaka
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Dennis Kioko
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Gichuki John Chuksjonia
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Odhiambo Washington
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Rad!
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Solomon Mburu
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Theus Owicho
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Victor Ngeny