Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke 2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>: The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this? http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point. Tony.
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
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*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke');>>:*
*The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?*
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
@Tony, I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available. @Maisiba , The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:*
*The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?*
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
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Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous. My 2c. Regards, John K. On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:*
*The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?*
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
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My take, This will be a DOA or BID product if they do not drop the Ksh 600 fee. I now see why Safaricom will continue being "Dominant": They are giving/replacing 4G SIM cards for FREE!!! On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:57 PM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous.
My 2c.
Regards, John K.
On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:*
*The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?*
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
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*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.* *1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000* *Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.* On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Mambo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
My take,
This will be a DOA or BID product if they do not drop the Ksh 600 fee. I now see why Safaricom will continue being "Dominant": They are giving/replacing 4G SIM cards for FREE!!!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:57 PM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous.
My 2c.
Regards, John K.
On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:*
*The use of encryption does not automatically make any system secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?*
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
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Don't believe the hype, remember Yu also touted large numbers at one point..and where is it now? On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Njiri John via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.*
*1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000*
*Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.*
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Mambo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
My take,
This will be a DOA or BID product if they do not drop the Ksh 600 fee. I now see why Safaricom will continue being "Dominant": They are giving/replacing 4G SIM cards for FREE!!!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:57 PM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous.
My 2c.
Regards, John K.
On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
*2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:*
> *The use of encryption does not automatically make any system > secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?* > >
http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point.
Tony.
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All equity staff were "urged" to get Equitel lines, wonder what section that is of the 1m. Regards, John K. On 21 July 2015 at 10:26, John Wesonga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Don't believe the hype, remember Yu also touted large numbers at one point..and where is it now?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Njiri John via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.*
*1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000*
*Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.*
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Mambo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
My take,
This will be a DOA or BID product if they do not drop the Ksh 600 fee. I now see why Safaricom will continue being "Dominant": They are giving/replacing 4G SIM cards for FREE!!!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:57 PM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous.
My 2c.
Regards, John K.
On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not affordable for the common mwanainchi
On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on the > implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity. > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs > Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 > From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > > *2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks > <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:* > >> *The use of encryption does not automatically make any system >> secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?* >> >> > > http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point. > > > Tony. > > > > > _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Family members of employees also..then they generally also give partners, affiliates etc Right now in my view Equity is using the "Spray and Pray" technique..wacha tuone... On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:32 AM, John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com> wrote:
All equity staff were "urged" to get Equitel lines, wonder what section that is of the 1m.
Regards, John K.
On 21 July 2015 at 10:26, John Wesonga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Don't believe the hype, remember Yu also touted large numbers at one point..and where is it now?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Njiri John via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.*
*1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000*
*Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.*
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Mambo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
My take,
This will be a DOA or BID product if they do not drop the Ksh 600 fee. I now see why Safaricom will continue being "Dominant": They are giving/replacing 4G SIM cards for FREE!!!
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:57 PM, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Equitel should be giving out these things for free. Expecting people to pay Kshs. 600 to slowly save 5 bob per transaction to get it back is simply ridiculous. They should fire up a marketing engine and have ladies with booths signing guys up, and inserting the thin sim in their phones for free round every corner. Mobile money is a game of numbers, the more people with the ability to transact will make the platform more attractive to other people. Kshs. 600 to join? Ridiculous.
My 2c.
Regards, John K.
On 20 July 2015 at 21:30, Omingo Obiko via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Tony,
I couldn't have put it better myself. Equitel actually only need to ensure their agency network is ubiquitous and float available.
@Maisiba ,
The common mwananchi will get the kawaida SIM @ Ksh.50.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Maisiba Bravo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Selling the Thin SIM @600 will hold its market subscription, not > affordable for the common mwanainchi > > On Monday, July 20, 2015, 0xexplorer via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> To be clear I was asking if any additional information exists on >> the implementation of "encryption" as deployed by Equity. >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equitel Thin SIMs >> Time (GMT): Jul 20 2015 10:47:28 >> From: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> >> *2015-07-20 13:12 GMT+03:00 0xexplorer via skunkworks >> <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>:* >> >>> *The use of encryption does not automatically make any system >>> secure. As a by the way, would anyone have further details on this?* >>> >>> >> >> http://www.taisys.com/ is a good starting point. >> >> >> Tony. >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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*2015-07-21 10:05 GMT+03:00 Njiri John via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>>:*
*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.*
*1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000* *Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.*
Hype aside, remember they've also had for a while, the *'normal SIM'* that goes for free (or market-rates at most). That possibly forms the bulk of their current subscribers. Tony.
Airtel also have several Prefixes but are they even half full? #MarketingStartegies On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
*2015-07-21 10:05 GMT+03:00 Njiri John via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>>:*
*Equitel have unveiled a new 0764 prefix after hitting one million customers on the previous 0763 prefix.*
*1,000,000 X 600= KES 600,000,000* *Mwangi should be a professor by now.. you are told its free to transact but already made 600m just from sim change over.*
Hype aside, remember they've also had for a while, the *'normal SIM'* that goes for free (or market-rates at most). That possibly forms the bulk of their current subscribers.
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