
Hello skunks, I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious. Kindly advice, Jeff

How much do they pay for the 512Kbps? How much is their entire budget (not just Internet, but salaries and everything)? -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
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On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise: If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending. However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete). -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."

Good translation :-) I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish. Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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For crissakes I knew it. JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Maybe they are not located at a place covered by JTL faiba. On 13 January 2014 11:56, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW! On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello skunks,
I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day)
Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, especially older computers enter "hung mode" Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of cost conscious.
Kindly advice,
Jeff
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Faiba guys are offering up to 6 Mbps for 15k...should I go for it without blinking or are there any known issues? On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello skunks, > > I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users > is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) > > Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between > 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, > especially older computers enter "hung mode" > Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of > cost conscious. > > Kindly advice, > > Jeff >
I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. Here is my advise:
If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending.
However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take less time to complete).
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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I would go for it without blinking. Although since you wrote that email 20 minutes ago, I hope you've blinked since then :-P -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Faiba guys are offering up to 6 Mbps for 15k...should I go for it without blinking or are there any known issues?
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Good translation :-)
I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and they're just being penny wise pound foolish.
Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hello skunks, >> >> I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users >> is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) >> >> Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between >> 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, >> especially older computers enter "hung mode" >> Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of >> cost conscious. >> >> Kindly advice, >> >> Jeff >> > > > I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. > Here is my advise: > > If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. > MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the > MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending. > > However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that > they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take > less time to complete). > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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:-) Many thanks! On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I would go for it without blinking. Although since you wrote that email 20 minutes ago, I hope you've blinked since then :-P
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Faiba guys are offering up to 6 Mbps for 15k...should I go for it without blinking or are there any known issues?
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the net. They pay 16k pm for the 512
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
> Good translation :-) > > I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to > advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they > can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and > they're just being penny wise pound foolish. > > Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when you > look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of their > budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, it's > one of the line items that most impacts productivity. > > -- > Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hello skunks, >>> >>> I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of users >>> is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) >>> >>> Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between >>> 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, >>> especially older computers enter "hung mode" >>> Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of >>> cost conscious. >>> >>> Kindly advice, >>> >>> Jeff >>> >> >> >> I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. >> Here is my advise: >> >> If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. >> MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the >> MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending. >> >> However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client that >> they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work take >> less time to complete). >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Keep in mind you might need to buy a switch if one isn't already installed. The business service doesn't come with a switch. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
:-) Many thanks!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I would go for it without blinking. Although since you wrote that email 20 minutes ago, I hope you've blinked since then :-P
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Faiba guys are offering up to 6 Mbps for 15k...should I go for it without blinking or are there any known issues?
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
For crissakes I knew it.
JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per month. You should get them on that and blow their mind.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani < jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the > net. They pay 16k pm for the 512 > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com>wrote: > >> Good translation :-) >> >> I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to >> advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they >> can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and >> they're just being penny wise pound foolish. >> >> Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when >> you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of >> their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, >> it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity. >> >> -- >> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io >> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hello skunks, >>>> >>>> I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of >>>> users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) >>>> >>>> Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between >>>> 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, >>>> especially older computers enter "hung mode" >>>> Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of >>>> cost conscious. >>>> >>>> Kindly advice, >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>> >>> >>> I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. >>> Here is my advise: >>> >>> If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. >>> MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the >>> MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending. >>> >>> However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client >>> that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work >>> take less time to complete). >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Thanks Adam..there is already one installed On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Keep in mind you might need to buy a switch if one isn't already installed. The business service doesn't come with a switch.
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
:-) Many thanks!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I would go for it without blinking. Although since you wrote that email 20 minutes ago, I hope you've blinked since then :-P
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
Faiba guys are offering up to 6 Mbps for 15k...should I go for it without blinking or are there any known issues?
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote:
@wash, at The Professional Centre, Parliament Rd
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks Adam, I thoght so. I had written to them last week but havent responded yet...let me grab a phone and call them NOW!
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
> For crissakes I knew it. > > JTL 6Mbps symmetric over fiber to an office address is 16k per > month. You should get them on that and blow their mind. > > -- > Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Geofrey Karani < > jeffkarani@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks guys...my resolve is to have them increase budget for the >> net. They pay 16k pm for the 512 >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com>wrote: >> >>> Good translation :-) >>> >>> I'm basically saying that it's up to you, the consultant, to >>> advocate for a higher level of technology. If they can't afford it, they >>> can't afford it. However, I'm pretty confident that they can afford it and >>> they're just being penny wise pound foolish. >>> >>> Money is a funny thing because nobody wants to spend it but when >>> you look at most organizations, they're never spending more than 5% of >>> their budget on stuff like Internet connectivity/computers and ironically, >>> it's one of the line items that most impacts productivity. >>> >>> -- >>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io >>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 January 2014 11:17, Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello skunks, >>>>> >>>>> I have a small office with 512/512 Kbps dedicated. Number of >>>>> users is 6 (not heavy users but send quiet a number of mails per day) >>>>> >>>>> Is this bandwidth sufficient to occasionally send files between >>>>> 5-10MB's? I noted that sending more than 5MB makes outlook on some, >>>>> especially older computers enter "hung mode" >>>>> Do I need to have the bandwidth increased? The client is kind of >>>>> cost conscious. >>>>> >>>>> Kindly advice, >>>>> >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I already feel your client is being stingy on spending. >>>> Here is my advise: >>>> >>>> If the mail server is not within the office, then run one within. >>>> MDaemon has a free version for 6 users. Let Outlook send the mail to the >>>> MDaemon instead of outbound. Let MDaemon struggle with the sending. >>>> >>>> However, as Adam seems to want to suggest, convince the client >>>> that they can do better - good bandwidth, good computers (also make work >>>> take less time to complete). >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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