http://www.kenyanpatriot.com/ List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed. I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem. Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the content rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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@peter here he is. Sema whassup? On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed. I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem. Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the content rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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I remember my friend having a brush with one Robert Alai's group mails, I voiced the same and no one found it good to comment further, can we proceed with other important things? Peter On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
@peter here he is.
Sema whassup?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned
website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem. Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the content rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
Is sunkworks content licensed as Creative Commons? This is Sic! You cant just start posting people's content on the web without their consent. I dont care who you are. When I subscribed to this list I dont remember seeing terms that allowed my contributions to be published on the net. That site carries no terms, no references, no disclaimers.... nothing. Whoever this is should be handed a cease-and-desist email or something. ----- "Brian L" <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem.
Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the content rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu < pkarunyu@gmail.com > wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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Interesting one. Maybe we should start a discussion on what skunkworks content should be licensed as. and @steve no need to be emotional, its not the end of the world. :-) On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Is sunkworks content licensed as Creative Commons? This is Sic! You cant just start posting people's content on the web without their consent. I dont care who you are.
When I subscribed to this list I dont remember seeing terms that allowed my contributions to be published on the net. That site carries no terms, no references, no disclaimers.... nothing. Whoever this is should be handed a cease-and-desist email or something.
----- "Brian L" <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem.
Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the content rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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-- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy” ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property, Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us. Many companies out there take this stuff very seriously and I think it time we as Kenyan entepreneurs/developers take this stuff very seriously too. Right now it may mean nothing but the day you come up with the next big thing, your competition will scour the net to link you to anything that suggests you stole it from them and they can shut you down. So little things like copy pasting someones code fragments or worse Mentioning a company name or brand makes you legally liable incase someone wants to press charges. Although it will be highly unlikely. Thats why Android is in a mess, Thats why Google is paying $500 Million for ads of fake pharma companies etc So for example Samsung should never offically use the word iPhone coz it can be used against them in a copyright infringment suite.... its all so messy, so thats why its a big deal ----- "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting one. Maybe we should start a discussion on what skunkworks content should be licensed as.
and @steve no need to be emotional, its not the end of the world. :-)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Is sunkworks content licensed as Creative Commons? This is Sic! You cant just start posting people's content on the web without their consent. I dont care who you are.
When I subscribed to this list I dont remember seeing terms that allowed my contributions to be published on the net. That site carries no terms, no references, no disclaimers.... nothing. Whoever this is should be handed a cease-and-desist email or something.
----- "Brian L" <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem.
Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the
content
rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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-- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~
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All true, but in my defense, The archives were unfriendly , and all im doing is archive the contents of the discussions. FYI the fact that it shows it is posted by admin is because anonymous posting is not allowed, a user by with the email address used in the list will automatically appear as the sender, so any appearance that the site admin is on a copy pasting rampage is but a shortfall in the system. but seriously though, the intention is to have a properly formed archive, and in my defense plans were (still are) for this to be hosted on my.co.ke On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property, Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
Many companies out there take this stuff very seriously and I think it time we as Kenyan entepreneurs/developers take this stuff very seriously too. Right now it may mean nothing but the day you come up with the next big thing, your competition will scour the net to link you to anything that suggests you stole it from them and they can shut you down.
So little things like copy pasting someones code fragments or worse Mentioning a company name or brand makes you legally liable incase someone wants to press charges. Although it will be highly unlikely. Thats why Android is in a mess, Thats why Google is paying $500 Million for ads of fake pharma companies etc
So for example Samsung should never offically use the word iPhone coz it can be used against them in a copyright infringment suite.... its all so messy, so thats why its a big deal
----- "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting one. Maybe we should start a discussion on what skunkworks content should be licensed as.
and @steve no need to be emotional, its not the end of the world. :-)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Is sunkworks content licensed as Creative Commons? This is Sic! You cant just start posting people's content on the web without their consent. I dont care who you are.
When I subscribed to this list I dont remember seeing terms that allowed my contributions to be published on the net. That site carries no terms, no references, no disclaimers.... nothing. Whoever this is should be handed a cease-and-desist email or something.
----- "Brian L" <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem.
Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the
content
rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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-- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~
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-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
No problem. I dont think the content posted posted on skunkworks is that damaging :), Again I might be wong :) Again it probably makes no difference since skunkworks mails are already on Google ----- "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
All true, but in my defense, The archives were unfriendly , and all im doing is archive the contents of the discussions.
FYI the fact that it shows it is posted by admin is because anonymous posting is not allowed, a user by with the email address used in the list will automatically appear as the sender, so any appearance that the site admin is on a copy pasting rampage is but a shortfall in the system.
but seriously though, the intention is to have a properly formed archive, and in my defense plans were (still are) for this to be hosted on my.co.ke
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property,
Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
Many companies out there take this stuff very seriously and I think it time we as Kenyan entepreneurs/developers take this stuff very seriously too. Right now it may mean nothing but the day you come up with the next big thing, your competition will scour the net to link you to anything that suggests you stole it from them and they can shut you down.
So little things like copy pasting someones code fragments or worse Mentioning a company name or brand makes you legally liable incase someone wants to press charges. Although it will be highly unlikely. Thats why Android is in a mess, Thats why Google is paying $500 Million for ads of fake pharma companies etc
So for example Samsung should never offically use the word iPhone coz it can be used against them in a copyright infringment suite.... its all so messy, so thats why its a big deal
----- "[ Brainiac ]" < arebacollins@gmail.com > wrote:
Interesting one. Maybe we should start a discussion on what skunkworks content should be licensed as.
and @steve no need to be emotional, its not the end of the world. :-)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
Is sunkworks content licensed as Creative Commons? This is Sic! You cant just start posting people's content on the web without their consent. I dont care who you are.
When I subscribed to this list I dont remember seeing terms that allowed my contributions to be published on the net. That site carries no terms, no references, no disclaimers.... nothing. Whoever this is should be handed a cease-and-desist email or something.
----- "Brian L" < lusiola@gmail.com > wrote:
I remember seeing a thread somewhere where the owner of the mentioned website/domain pointed it out to someone on this mail list as a reference/archive, in full view and admitted to waiting for backlash. None was handed.
I strongly believe as long as your email is not published then there is no problem.
Plus besides the owner has not taken personal credit for the
content
rather is further spreading the content to other people who might not be subscribed to this mail list. Lets await the moderator response.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Peter Karunyu < pkarunyu@gmail.com > wrote:
List moderators, is there a policy for this kind of thing?
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-- “The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696 _______________________________________________
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“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power , and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”
~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property, Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
If you are are worried about such things when posting to a public mailing list -- you should NOT be posting anything at all. In fact you should not be sending emails to anyone at all -- since I could be posting the contents of all your emails on twitter, facebook, weibo, myspace etc.
@Ashok if you read what I have written, is if you reproduce what I have posted on the Internet or email that is called Plagiarism. The people I work for can slap you with a law suite. If they feel the information you Plagiarised is potentially damaging to them. The problem is not me its on you. If I publish something you wrote, I am also must reference you as my source. By the way Ahok, if you are aware about these laws in the west you will not be arguing with me. If you dont know abou these read about these Licenses and figure out why they exist.. GPL (all versions), LGPL, MIT, BSD ..... and thousands others. Ask yourself why people and companies find it necessary to copyright and patent their info. This is nothing to do with me but its about the legal systems operating in the world, whether you want to or not as long as you post anything on the internet you are subject to these laws through jurisdiction. Just because no one prosecutes does not meant they are not in place Steve ----- ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property,
Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
If you are are worried about such things when posting to a public mailing list -- you should NOT be posting anything at all. In fact you should not be sending emails to anyone at all -- since I could be posting the contents of all your emails on twitter, facebook, weibo, myspace etc.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
On another tangent, suppose some ads are put up on kenyanpatriot.com and they earn a pretty buck for the owner, is it still ok? Granted, Skunkworks content is NOT the only one on that site, so would there be some sort of revenue share? We could do with another server :-) On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Ashok if you read what I have written, is if you reproduce what I have posted on the Internet or email that is called Plagiarism. The people I work for can slap you with a law suite. If they feel the information you Plagiarised is potentially damaging to them. The problem is not me its on you. If I publish something you wrote, I am also must reference you as my source.
By the way Ahok, if you are aware about these laws in the west you will not be arguing with me. If you dont know abou these read about these Licenses and figure out why they exist.. GPL (all versions), LGPL, MIT, BSD ..... and thousands others. Ask yourself why people and companies find it necessary to copyright and patent their info.
This is nothing to do with me but its about the legal systems operating in the world, whether you want to or not as long as you post anything on the internet you are subject to these laws through jurisdiction. Just because no one prosecutes does not meant they are not in place
Steve
----- ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property,
Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
If you are are worried about such things when posting to a public mailing list -- you should NOT be posting anything at all. In fact you should not be sending emails to anyone at all -- since I could be posting the contents of all your emails on twitter, facebook, weibo, myspace etc.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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@peter nice one.... When that time comes we will sit down at the ihub and talk servers... talking of which...... skunkserver? yes no? maybe? On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On another tangent, suppose some ads are put up on kenyanpatriot.com and they earn a pretty buck for the owner, is it still ok?
Granted, Skunkworks content is NOT the only one on that site, so would there be some sort of revenue share? We could do with another server :-)
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Ashok if you read what I have written, is if you reproduce what I have posted on the Internet or email that is called Plagiarism. The people I work for can slap you with a law suite. If they feel the information you Plagiarised is potentially damaging to them. The problem is not me its on you. If I publish something you wrote, I am also must reference you as my source.
By the way Ahok, if you are aware about these laws in the west you will not be arguing with me. If you dont know abou these read about these Licenses and figure out why they exist.. GPL (all versions), LGPL, MIT, BSD ..... and thousands others. Ask yourself why people and companies find it necessary to copyright and patent their info.
This is nothing to do with me but its about the legal systems operating in the world, whether you want to or not as long as you post anything on the internet you are subject to these laws through jurisdiction. Just because no one prosecutes does not meant they are not in place
Steve
----- ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com>wrote:
@Brainiac, the reason why I have to be strict, is coz as an independent contrator for a company thats big on intellectual property,
Copyright Infringement and Plagiarism etc and they also reference us to their clients so some of us need to be very cautious about what appears on the net that links back to us.
If you are are worried about such things when posting to a public mailing list -- you should NOT be posting anything at all. In fact you should not be sending emails to anyone at all -- since I could be posting the contents of all your emails on twitter, facebook, weibo, myspace etc.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Ashok if you read what I have written, is if you reproduce what I have posted on the Internet or email that is called Plagiarism. The people I work for can slap you with a law suite. If they feel the information you Plagiarised is potentially damaging to them. The problem is not me its on you. If I publish something you wrote, I am also must reference you as my source.
By the way Ahok, if you are aware about these laws in the west you will not be arguing with me. If you dont know abou these read about these Licenses and figure out why they exist.. GPL (all versions), LGPL, MIT, BSD ..... and thousands others. Ask yourself why people and companies find it necessary to copyright and patent their info.
This is nothing to do with me but its about the legal systems operating in the world, whether you want to or not as long as you post anything on the internet you are subject to these laws through jurisdiction. Just because no one prosecutes does not meant they are not in place
You are extending copyright law from one jurisdiction into another where there is none. I suspect you are more upset about the contents of the email you posted becoming public on a website -- rather than any real IP value in it for e.g. can you answer : how much money did you lose by your email being published on that site ? Copyright is not going to help you, unless you can actually prove such things. You don't have a confidentially agreement with any of the persons receiving your email. So its not clear what damages or intellectual property theft you are claiming. As I said if you are worried about what you say on a public mailing list being published online -- you shoudnt be online.
@collins Keep up the good work, there is nothing wrong with what you are doing... ...it is just like www.drudgereport.com ...they just post links of content from any news source and they are currently driving more news traffic than twitter and facebook (combined). I remember collins came up with this solution when we realised that the archives of a substantial chunk of skunkworks posts have been locked up and nobody has to this date explained why this is so...what is being hidden there in? Timo.
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