Best Visualization Software & Hypervisors

Morning all, I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_ - Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization Thank you, -- Walter

This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement. I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement. I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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I use KVM too On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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BTW, there's lots of discussion on whether virtualization is a good approach since there's so much research on containers being better then virtualization which is in essence very wasteful, so maybe you should be looking at containers :-) ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use KVM too
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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Containers (jails) are much more efficient and have near-metal performance. However, they have to share the kernel so you need to trust the other tenants and the managers of the guest OSes have to be able to handle kernel upgrades. -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, there's lots of discussion on whether virtualization is a good approach since there's so much research on containers being better then virtualization which is in essence very wasteful, so maybe you should be looking at containers :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use KVM too
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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Thanks guys, will look into the proposed options. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Containers (jails) are much more efficient and have near-metal performance. However, they have to share the kernel so you need to trust the other tenants and the managers of the guest OSes have to be able to handle kernel upgrades.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, there's lots of discussion on whether virtualization is a good approach since there's so much research on containers being better then virtualization which is in essence very wasteful, so maybe you should be looking at containers :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use KVM too
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com>wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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-- Walter Nyamweya

You can try OpenVZ <*openvz*.org> containers for linux which can also be used on proxmox ve <pve.*proxmox*.com>. Proxmox has a web based interface for managing the virtual environment and also has KVM. If you are using FreeBSD, you can try FreeBSD Jails. Both FreeBSD Jails and OpenVZ containers share the kernel of the host. On 26 September 2013 08:22, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks guys, will look into the proposed options.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Containers (jails) are much more efficient and have near-metal performance. However, they have to share the kernel so you need to trust the other tenants and the managers of the guest OSes have to be able to handle kernel upgrades.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, there's lots of discussion on whether virtualization is a good approach since there's so much research on containers being better then virtualization which is in essence very wasteful, so maybe you should be looking at containers :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use KVM too
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com>wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to use considering these virtualization types:_
- Full Virtualization - Hardware Assisted Virtualization - Operating System Virtualization - Paravirtualization
Thank you, -- Walter
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As Proxmox VE <http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page> is based on Debian those who prefer RPM based platforms should take a look at Opennode<http://opennodecloud.com/about/> It does both OpenVZ containers and full visualization with KVM. Regards -- Oscar Gatamah On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Hezron Mwangi <fhuogho@gmail.com> wrote:
You can try OpenVZ <*openvz*.org> containers for linux which can also be used on proxmox ve <pve.*proxmox*.com>. Proxmox has a web based interface for managing the virtual environment and also has KVM. If you are using FreeBSD, you can try FreeBSD Jails. Both FreeBSD Jails and OpenVZ containers share the kernel of the host.
On 26 September 2013 08:22, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks guys, will look into the proposed options.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Containers (jails) are much more efficient and have near-metal performance. However, they have to share the kernel so you need to trust the other tenants and the managers of the guest OSes have to be able to handle kernel upgrades.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW, there's lots of discussion on whether virtualization is a good approach since there's so much research on containers being better then virtualization which is in essence very wasteful, so maybe you should be looking at containers :-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
I use KVM too
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Alex Nyalita <nyalita@gmail.com>wrote:
Personally l would recommend KVM for very busy environment. Its more mature, stable and better supported. Virtualbox is more feature rich but not recommended for heavy production. This is however my opinion. This only can lead you to kind of Apple Vs Android talk - Research, find what you like and implement.
I personally use QEMU + Libvirt - not coz of anything specific, but coz I feel comfortable with it. The only reason I never went the Xen way coz of when dom0 support was removed from the Kernel, but now its back.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Morning all, > > I need your thoughts on the best open source visualization tool to > use considering these virtualization types:_ > > - Full Virtualization > - Hardware Assisted Virtualization > - Operating System Virtualization > - Paravirtualization > > Thank you, > -- > Walter > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Adam Nelson
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Alex Nyalita
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Hezron Mwangi
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maina
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Okechukwu
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Oscar Gatamah
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wa