Banking industry security

Is your money really safe with Banks? The link below and comments to it gets me worried http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Woman+s+agony+after+account+drained+dry/-/1056/... Regards, Mugo

Hmm, we have seen the software they use..... On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:
Is your money really safe with Banks?
The link below and comments to it gets me worried
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Woman+s+agony+after+account+drained+dry/-/1056/...
Regards, Mugo
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Frankly, i have done several security assessment to several banks, and most of the risks start all the way from CBK. Those transfers are done are on *.csv files which aren't encrypted and the system used are on FTP service. So, all they rely on, is trust between the banks and the people handling the *.csv files, Epic FAIL! On 8/11/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, we have seen the software they use.....
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:
Is your money really safe with Banks?
The link below and comments to it gets me worried
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Woman+s+agony+after+account+drained+dry/-/1056/...
Regards, Mugo
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Your money is safe cause it is insured against theft by employees and in this case if the banks finds that the tellers authorized withdrawals against fake credentials i.e (ID and signature) then the teller will be liable to pay the bank for the lost money. You are given a staff loan to pay for the lost funds. But in this case. How can 5 tellers in 5 branches authorize withdrawals on your account. ( it was not ATM all the withdrawals were OTC) and none of them find anything wrong. Either the person doing it was smart or the tellers were negligent, either way there is a lot to it than meets the eye. regards Patrick

Looking at the situation its as simple as a racket operated by bank tellers. What a coincidence, 5 tellers in 5 branches? That reminds me of a rumour going round about City Hoppa drivers and conductors working together with jackers especially on the riruta route. I think its time some action was taken against such banks....

Ndwex, let me twist this argument further what will stop the bank from refunding you money from money that you genuinely withdrew and later claim it was not you. regards Patrick

Apart from the staff in cahoots stuff, I think there's an lack of adequate Information Security on our networks. I also sympathise with the lady who went to the media after 2 years of being taken round in circles by a bank that should in all fair means refund her money; they have ways to mitigate this probably as an operating cost, or a risk covered by insurers. (or classify it as a bad debt :-) ) So where does she go to after this... Our justice system is still a big mess to be sorted, thanks to the forces in place so far. Can you imagine waiting for several years for a case to recover 400K?? Add to that, a reliable source informed me that the the bank in this article was a victim of fraud towards the end of last year. Someone took control of their Pesa Pap system on a Saturday afternoon and withdrew KES 35M around agencies and ATMs before the fraud was discovered. I think tis just a matter of time before organisations in our country take security seriously. Mugo On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ndwex,
let me twist this argument further what will stop the bank from refunding you money from money that you genuinely withdrew and later claim it was not you.
regards
Patrick
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On that note who knows anyone that did the internet banking for Paramount Bank? On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, m mugo <mugo2of3@gmail.com> wrote:
Is your money really safe with Banks?
The link below and comments to it gets me worried
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Woman+s+agony+after+account+drained+dry/-/1056/...
Regards, Mugo
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Gichuki John Chuksjonia
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m mugo
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Nd'wex Common
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Patrick Karanja
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