and what is the difference of deploying fedora in place of Red Hat?
Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server. Think of it in this context: You can use Windows XP as a web server, but wouldn't you rather use, say, Windows 2000 Server?
Thanks Arthur, I now get it. 2009/6/23 Arthur Buliva <abuliva@mobileplanet.co.ke>
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True, Fedora's designation is Desktop but i have seen it act as a server with superb performance. This was on the JNET system back in Jku@, maybe Charlo Rono can expound on this, he is smwhere on this list. Blessings! On 6/23/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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and what is the difference of deploying fedora in place of Red Hat?
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There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems. -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Buliva <abuliva@mobileplanet.co.ke> Reply-to: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Anyone using Redhat Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:45:53 +0300
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Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server.
I suppose saying that would be misleading . What designates an operating system as server or desktop depends on the service or software running. In the case of Fedora or Red Hat the user decides that ; Recalling old redhat 7,8 or 9 during install you had option to choose between desktop or server or install everything On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com>wrote:
There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems.
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The statement that 'Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server' has a lot of truth in it, althought it may not necessarily be true to the letter. The reason why Fedora was branched off Redhat is because of the frequent life cycle, which is not ideal for a server environment. A new release comes every 6 months and if you use it in a server environment, you probably have to upgrade every six or less months and that is not desireable, as opposed to RedHat Enterprise whose cycles are well over 2 years. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM, melvin obiri <obirimelvin@gmail.com> wrote:
Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server.
I suppose saying that would be misleading . What designates an operating system as server or desktop depends on the service or software running. In the case of Fedora or Red Hat the user decides that ; Recalling old redhat 7,8 or 9 during install you had option to choose between desktop or server or install everything
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com>wrote:
There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems.
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There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems.
I contradict this. to a newbies, they may all be the same one way or another. If you are an IT power user(who needs to install a few apps, servers etc), Mandriva Linux is a NO GO ZONE. I think that in aiming to make it easy to use, they end up making it hard to configure what comes outside the Mandriva DVD. I once tried to move from Basic Mandriva usage to power usage, and it gave me hell. I am now on Fedora, and even the comp is smiling. I suggest that suse & Fedora are good places to begin. Mandriva is still a good distro for an End User. 2009/6/23 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
The statement that 'Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server' has a lot of truth in it, althought it may not necessarily be true to the letter. The reason why Fedora was branched off Redhat is because of the frequent life cycle, which is not ideal for a server environment. A new release comes every 6 months and if you use it in a server environment, you probably have to upgrade every six or less months and that is not desireable, as opposed to RedHat Enterprise whose cycles are well over 2 years. ./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM, melvin obiri <obirimelvin@gmail.com>wrote:
Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server.
I suppose saying that would be misleading . What designates an operating system as server or desktop depends on the service or software running. In the case of Fedora or Red Hat the user decides that ; Recalling old redhat 7,8 or 9 during install you had option to choose between desktop or server or install everything
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com>wrote:
There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems.
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That is why I had a disclaimer (its much more what you are comfortable working with). I have no experience with Mandriva so I cannot speak for it but for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora I can say the difference is very minimal and no much upgrading of skill set is needed to migrate from one to another. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Anyone using Redhat Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:48:34 +0300 There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems. I contradict this. to a newbies, they may all be the same one way or another. If you are an IT power user(who needs to install a few apps, servers etc), Mandriva Linux is a NO GO ZONE. I think that in aiming to make it easy to use, they end up making it hard to configure what comes outside the Mandriva DVD. I once tried to move from Basic Mandriva usage to power usage, and it gave me hell. I am now on Fedora, and even the comp is smiling. I suggest that suse & Fedora are good places to begin. Mandriva is still a good distro for an End User. 2009/6/23 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> The statement that 'Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server' has a lot of truth in it, althought it may not necessarily be true to the letter. The reason why Fedora was branched off Redhat is because of the frequent life cycle, which is not ideal for a server environment. A new release comes every 6 months and if you use it in a server environment, you probably have to upgrade every six or less months and that is not desireable, as opposed to RedHat Enterprise whose cycles are well over 2 years. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM, melvin obiri <obirimelvin@gmail.com> wrote: Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server. I suppose saying that would be misleading . What designates an operating system as server or desktop depends on the service or software running. In the case of Fedora or Red Hat the user decides that ; Recalling old redhat 7,8 or 9 during install you had option to choose between desktop or server or install everything On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote: There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems. -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Buliva <abuliva@mobileplanet.co.ke> Reply-to: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Anyone using Redhat Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:45:53 +0300 > and what is the difference of deploying fedora in place of Red Hat? Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server. Think of it in this context: You can use Windows XP as a web server, but wouldn't you rather use, say, Windows 2000 Server? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- with Regards: Find out about the paedophila mascot of Kenya & Why we should not stop Kenyans from fetching spilt petrol at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
I think at this point with regards to fedora, Its beneficial to state that fedora is about rapid innovation. Which applies to desktop features and server alike ;the innovations produced within Fedora go right into RHELn+1 . using Fedora as a server distribution is a lot easier when you use configuration management to automate setup and configuration As for Mandriva,Dennis seems like your experience was daunting; For me this one was "Intro to GNU/ Linux" and I've used it as grows from Mandrake 8.0 thru 2009.1; I've no quarrels with it in any environment either server or desktop ; Oops!! - seems like we've hijacked s1's thread; On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote:
That is why I had a disclaimer (its much more what you are comfortable working with).
I have no experience with Mandriva so I cannot speak for it but for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora I can say the difference is very minimal and no much upgrading of skill set is needed to migrate from one to another.
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There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems. I contradict this. to a newbies, they may all be the same one way or another. If you are an IT power user(who needs to install a few apps, servers etc), Mandriva Linux is a NO GO ZONE.
I think that in aiming to make it easy to use, they end up making it hard to configure what comes outside the Mandriva DVD.
I once tried to move from Basic Mandriva usage to power usage, and it gave me hell. I am now on Fedora, and even the comp is smiling.
I suggest that suse & Fedora are good places to begin. Mandriva is still a good distro for an End User.
2009/6/23 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> The statement that 'Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server' has a lot of truth in it, althought it may not necessarily be true to the letter. The reason why Fedora was branched off Redhat is because of the frequent life cycle, which is not ideal for a server environment. A new release comes every 6 months and if you use it in a server environment, you probably have to upgrade every six or less months and that is not desireable, as opposed to RedHat Enterprise whose cycles are well over 2 years.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:19 PM, melvin obiri <obirimelvin@gmail.com> wrote:
Fedora is designed as a desktop OS rather than a server.
I suppose saying that would be misleading . What designates an operating system as server or desktop depends on the service or software running. In the case of Fedora or Red Hat the user decides that ; Recalling old redhat 7,8 or 9 during install you had option to choose between desktop or server or install everything
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Alex Nderitu <nderitualex@gmail.com> wrote: There is never really much difference between the Linux flavors (its much more what you are comfortable working with). The stability of an linux/unix server is much more about how proper the installation, hardening and configuration is done rather than the distro. Wikipedia has been running fedora for sometime (though they are standardizing to Ubuntu) and you will agree with me it has one of the most stable systems.
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