Re: [Skunkworks] ICDL to be Gazetted: Is Open Office recognized?
M$ ICDL? Or is it the BA graduates (are they journalists?) at the media houses that are ill informed? Or is it a case of a native Window$ user aka minister communicating on a serious ICT affair? The US .gov is moving open source, Kenya with all its poverty is going the $$ way, tells me how we don't know how to make/save wealth. --- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow. --- This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least.
The reporter was perhaps doing his job... of reporting, though lopsided. My training as a journalist, taught me to do enough research before making the comment public, because any error is perceived as the company view. Maybe the guy did not know the difference between OpenICDL and Microsoft-based ICDL. On 04/11/2009, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
M$ ICDL? Or is it the BA graduates (are they journalists?) at the media houses that are ill informed? Or is it a case of a native Window$ user aka minister communicating on a serious ICT affair?
The US .gov is moving open source, Kenya with all its poverty is going the $$ way, tells me how we don't know how to make/save wealth. --- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow. ---
This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Peter, that is what I have been singing about all along. If rich western and Eastern nations can see the economic sense of open source, and we can't, should that not explain why we remain poor? Its simply a matter of 'we just don't get it'. There is definately a huge amount of Dollars that our government could be saving and spending the money in other worthy causes. Like feeding the Kenyans who are dying of hunger. How many people can money saved from one PC installation feed in a month? Ikua On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
The reporter was perhaps doing his job... of reporting, though lopsided. My training as a journalist, taught me to do enough research before making the comment public, because any error is perceived as the company view. Maybe the guy did not know the difference between OpenICDL and Microsoft-based ICDL.
On 04/11/2009, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
M$ ICDL? Or is it the BA graduates (are they journalists?) at the media houses that are ill informed? Or is it a case of a native Window$ user aka minister communicating on a serious ICT affair?
The US .gov is moving open source, Kenya with all its poverty is going the $$ way, tells me how we don't know how to make/save wealth. --- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow. ---
This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com https://smiley2.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Evans, I have to disagree on this one. As long as people do not have access to information and knowledge we will remain poor. OpenSource allows us to reach a greater number of people at a lower cost and to create the software necessary to alleviate our own poverty. People get it once they understand that there are laws against software piracy. Please remember that more than 70% of the population lives outside of cities without access to electricity. It isn't that they don't get it. It is that they haven't been given the opportunity to learn. Crystal On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter, that is what I have been singing about all along. If rich western and Eastern nations can see the economic sense of open source, and we can't, should that not explain why we remain poor? Its simply a matter of 'we just don't get it'.
There is definately a huge amount of Dollars that our government could be saving and spending the money in other worthy causes. Like feeding the Kenyans who are dying of hunger. How many people can money saved from one PC installation feed in a month? Ikua
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
The reporter was perhaps doing his job... of reporting, though lopsided. My training as a journalist, taught me to do enough research before making the comment public, because any error is perceived as the company view. Maybe the guy did not know the difference between OpenICDL and Microsoft-based ICDL.
On 04/11/2009, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
M$ ICDL? Or is it the BA graduates (are they journalists?) at the media houses that are ill informed? Or is it a case of a native Window$ user aka minister communicating on a serious ICT affair?
The US .gov is moving open source, Kenya with all its poverty is going the $$ way, tells me how we don't know how to make/save wealth. --- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow. ---
This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com https://smiley2.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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What I meant Crystal is that our leaders are like McCain. They are ok, but they just don't get it! Ikua On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni < crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
Evans, I have to disagree on this one. As long as people do not have access to information and knowledge we will remain poor. OpenSource allows us to reach a greater number of people at a lower cost and to create the software necessary to alleviate our own poverty. People get it once they understand that there are laws against software piracy.
Please remember that more than 70% of the population lives outside of cities without access to electricity. It isn't that they don't get it. It is that they haven't been given the opportunity to learn.
Crystal
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter, that is what I have been singing about all along. If rich western and Eastern nations can see the economic sense of open source, and we can't, should that not explain why we remain poor? Its simply a matter of 'we just don't get it'.
There is definately a huge amount of Dollars that our government could be saving and spending the money in other worthy causes. Like feeding the Kenyans who are dying of hunger. How many people can money saved from one PC installation feed in a month? Ikua
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com
wrote:
The reporter was perhaps doing his job... of reporting, though lopsided. My training as a journalist, taught me to do enough research before making the comment public, because any error is perceived as the company view. Maybe the guy did not know the difference between OpenICDL and Microsoft-based ICDL.
On 04/11/2009, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
M$ ICDL? Or is it the BA graduates (are they journalists?) at the media houses that are ill informed? Or is it a case of a native Window$ user aka minister communicating on a serious ICT affair?
The US .gov is moving open source, Kenya with all its poverty is going the $$ way, tells me how we don't know how to make/save wealth. --- Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow. ---
This is great! Absolutely need similar "open" skill set standards model here-that was never the contention. Rather that the media house reportedly concluded /suggested that GoK was Gazetting M$ - NOT FUNNY, at all, or at the very least. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com https://smiley2.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
What I meant Crystal is that our leaders are like McCain. They are ok, but they just don't get it!
Maybe some "get it" lots of it... that they cannot help with the temptation of perpetuating Open Source misinformation to maintain "their getting" status quo?
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal@voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
Evans, I have to disagree on this one. As long as people do not have access to information and knowledge we will remain poor. OpenSource allows us to reach a greater number of people at a lower cost and to create the software necessary to alleviate our own poverty. People get it once they understand that there are laws against software piracy.
Please remember that more than 70% of the population lives outside of cities without access to electricity. It isn't that they don't get it. It is that they haven't been given the opportunity to learn.
Crystal
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Peter, that is what I have been singing about all along. If rich western and Eastern nations can see the economic sense of open source, and we can't, should that not explain why we remain poor? Its simply a matter of 'we just don't get it'.
There is definately a huge amount of Dollars that our government could be saving and spending the money in other worthy causes. Like feeding the Kenyans who are dying of hunger. How many people can money saved from one PC installation feed in a month? Ikua
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