Hello Skunks! I hope you are all well. With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh. I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :) Have a good day folks. cheers, Stephen
Well, if you are not willing to "name and shame", then I suggest you forever keep your silence. If you paid, and has proof, then just take the matter up with the Police - that is theft. Is there a better way than naming the lister? I suppose naming is what I equate to *blacklisting*, but you look at it differently. Why are you not willing to name them? On 17 March 2013 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
cheers, Stephen
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I too concur, name and shame them! You not naming them would be akin to a good person not doing anything, and thus allowing evil to thrive. On 17 Mar 2013, at 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
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OK personally that is scary, we exchange huge transaction hear with big trust, I have exchanged big money here so if there would be such a risk the best will be to LIST them and the admin should MOVE IN QUICKLY ## My SUggeestiooooon(with a luo accent ) On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I too concur, name and shame them!
You not naming them would be akin to a good person not doing anything, and thus allowing evil to thrive.
On 17 Mar 2013, at 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
cheers, Stephen
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Am also at a loss as to how we blacklist an individual without knowing the identity. Simply name him and the isolation begins there. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
OK personally that is scary, we exchange huge transaction hear with big trust, I have exchanged big money here so if there would be such a risk the best will be to LIST them and the admin should MOVE IN QUICKLY ## My SUggeestiooooon(with a luo accent )
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I too concur, name and shame them!
You not naming them would be akin to a good person not doing anything, and thus allowing evil to thrive.
On 17 Mar 2013, at 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
cheers, Stephen
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NAME & SHAME please!!! Otherwise we are wasting our time on this forum and all product adverts should be banned. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
OK personally that is scary, we exchange huge transaction hear with big trust, I have exchanged big money here so if there would be such a risk the best will be to LIST them and the admin should MOVE IN QUICKLY ## My SUggeestiooooon(with a luo accent )
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I too concur, name and shame them!
You not naming them would be akin to a good person not doing anything, and thus allowing evil to thrive.
On 17 Mar 2013, at 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
cheers, Stephen
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If by now the defrauder has not reached out to you Steve you ought to name and shame, there is a lot of business that happens here on this list without people meeting, just because of the "List" factor. Regards, Martin Gicheru Sent from my Galaxy Camera On 17 Mar 2013 16:30, "Leonard Kore" <leonardkore@gmail.com> wrote:
NAME & SHAME please!!!
Otherwise we are wasting our time on this forum and all product adverts should be banned.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
OK personally that is scary, we exchange huge transaction hear with big trust, I have exchanged big money here so if there would be such a risk the best will be to LIST them and the admin should MOVE IN QUICKLY ## My SUggeestiooooon(with a luo accent )
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote:
I too concur, name and shame them!
You not naming them would be akin to a good person not doing anything, and thus allowing evil to thrive.
On 17 Mar 2013, at 11:27, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Skunks!
I hope you are all well.
With regards to the subject of this Email, I have fallen victim to a lister here and I was wondering whether there was a blacklist somewhere so that another lister doesn't go that way in future. They promised to deliver after I made a down-payment and then what followed was the usual am busy call later, in a meeting can't talk, and then no longer picking my calls but when I use another line the lister cant wait for it to even ring once .... blah blah blah bleh bleh.
I had assumed good faith but seems the brief case office(s) have found there way to this mailing list. I am not that name and shame guy but I certainly feel this is good faith on trial :)
Have a good day folks.
cheers, Stephen
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The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them.
Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread. On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them.
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I'll kill the thread if the person is not named! :-( On 17 March 2013 16:54, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread. On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them.
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Is there some sort of proof? A contract, an invoice, receipt for down payment, emails? Otherwise it might as well be malice. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread. On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them.
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@mutwiri I concur. The net effect of this thread is that it is throwing aspersion to the character of listers. As much as I am sure there are scandalous characters amongst us, just throwing accusations around and not naming the culprit on the basis of being a good guy is detrimental and basically malicious. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Mutwiri Kiogora <mutwirik@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there some sort of proof? A contract, an invoice, receipt for down payment, emails?
Otherwise it might as well be malice.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread. On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them.
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If I may make a suggestion, send the lister in question an email and an sms and inform them that because they have sought your business through this list of which you are a member, he should resolve the issue within a certain timeline (suitable to you) and that if he fails to respond or take appropriate action, you will have no choice but to name them on the list to forewarn other listers, which you have an ethical obligation to do. In any case, if this is a genuine case, you should at the very least take some action, if not on this list, then with the authorities. I hope this sounds like a sensible approach. Sham From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi Sent: March-17-13 9:21 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Defrauding listers! @mutwiri I concur. The net effect of this thread is that it is throwing aspersion to the character of listers. As much as I am sure there are scandalous characters amongst us, just throwing accusations around and not naming the culprit on the basis of being a good guy is detrimental and basically malicious. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Mutwiri Kiogora <mutwirik@gmail.com> wrote: Is there some sort of proof? A contract, an invoice, receipt for down payment, emails? Otherwise it might as well be malice. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote: Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread. On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote: The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Regards, Mark Mwangi markmwangi.me.ke
Name them!!!! On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:
If I may make a suggestion, send the lister in question an email and an sms and inform them that because they have sought your business through this list of which you are a member, he should resolve the issue within a certain timeline (suitable to you) and that if he fails to respond or take appropriate action, you will have no choice but to name them on the list to forewarn other listers, which you have an ethical obligation to do.****
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In any case, if this is a genuine case, you should at the very least take some action, if not on this list, then with the authorities.****
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I hope this sounds like a sensible approach.****
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@mutwiri I concur. The net effect of this thread is that it is throwing aspersion to the character of listers. As much as I am sure there are scandalous characters amongst us, just throwing accusations around and not naming the culprit on the basis of being a good guy is detrimental and basically malicious. ****
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Is there some sort of proof? A contract, an invoice, receipt for down payment, emails?****
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Otherwise it might as well be malice.****
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On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:*** *
Until the person is named, all this is pointless. By posting something like this and not naming names, you have wasted a lot of peoples time. Either name the person or kill this thread.****
On Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM, "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:****
The guy should be named soonest possible so that some of us can maintain minimum contact with them. ****
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Stephen