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Jesus, not again. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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Nightmare!!!!!!!!! On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
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nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war....... On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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Wait a sec, so this Arthur dude added skunkworks to the Bidii Afrika group and skunkworks aint getting the chance to accept or refuse? That seems wrong! On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
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What is happening bana! Get us out of this Bidii thing!! On 6/5/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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Hi, Since most people on BA are not on the skunkworks list and the list is a members-only list, most messages from BA are being held on the mailing list server (otherwise we'd have probably > 20 messages already). I've already asked for the list to be removed from BA. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jose Ngunjiri <ngunjirijnr@gmail.com>wrote:
What is happening bana! Get us out of this Bidii thing!!
On 6/5/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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Pheeeeewwwww!!!! Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Josiah Mugambi Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:43 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Google Groups: You've been added to BIDII AFRIKA Hi, Since most people on BA are not on the skunkworks list and the list is a members-only list, most messages from BA are being held on the mailing list server (otherwise we'd have probably > 20 messages already). I've already asked for the list to be removed from BA. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jose Ngunjiri <ngunjirijnr@gmail.com> wrote: What is happening bana! Get us out of this Bidii thing!! On 6/5/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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ohh thank God ................been forcefully subscribed in that group before n just trying to unsubscibe from that group almost grey hair ............... On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Pheeeeewwwww!!!!
Steve Obbayi,
------------------------------ *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Josiah Mugambi *Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2009 11:43 AM *To:* Skunkworks forum *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Google Groups: You've been added to BIDII AFRIKA
Hi, Since most people on BA are not on the skunkworks list and the list is a members-only list, most messages from BA are being held on the mailing list server (otherwise we'd have probably > 20 messages already).
I've already asked for the list to be removed from BA.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jose Ngunjiri <ngunjirijnr@gmail.com>wrote:
What is happening bana! Get us out of this Bidii thing!!
On 6/5/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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They added my yahoo address and efforts to be removed have been futile, then the other day Robert Alai requests for friendship in facebook too!! On 6/5/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
Pheeeeewwwww!!!!
Steve Obbayi,
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From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Josiah Mugambi Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:43 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Google Groups: You've been added to BIDII AFRIKA
Hi,
Since most people on BA are not on the skunkworks list and the list is a members-only list, most messages from BA are being held on the mailing list server (otherwise we'd have probably > 20 messages already).
I've already asked for the list to be removed from BA.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jose Ngunjiri <ngunjirijnr@gmail.com> wrote:
What is happening bana! Get us out of this Bidii thing!!
On 6/5/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
On 6/5/09, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:
nyaoke sijui who i dont want to be a member of bidiiafrika so please undo ur addition
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Steve <sikileng@gmail.com> wrote:
Nightmare!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Jesus, not again.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
Here is the group's description:
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, nyarotho kennedy<kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
I fear they could be sponsored by somebody..... some sort of 2012 strategy?
LOL, horror this friday On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Gakuru Alex<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, nyarotho kennedy<kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
I fear they could be sponsored by somebody..... some sort of 2012 strategy? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL, horror this friday
This is the first time in my life when I have seen serious techies running scared, seriously!! What happened to mail filters, if anything? :-) PS: This should scare one, Aki to death, tihihihi.. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain
Wash, lol! my inbox clean as it can ever be after filtering. hehehe! 2009/6/5 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:24 PM, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL, horror this friday
This is the first time in my life when I have seen serious techies running scared, seriously!! What happened to mail filters, if anything? :-)
PS: This should scare one, Aki to death, tihihihi..
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware. Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware. In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable. “We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday. Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search. One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said. “Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said. In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware. “What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.” Google said it knows about the problem. “Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he! On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
-- People should know when they are conquered.
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ? On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
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We discussed this or IRC, skunks channel, and we said if they attempt to go for the security forum which is also on this server, we go for the admins of that list full blown. lol! On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sam Oduor<sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
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That not a very good avenue .. you don't want to go that road ... http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_c... On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:30 PM, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
We discussed this or IRC, skunks channel, and we said if they attempt to go for the security forum which is also on this server, we go for the admins of that list full blown.
lol!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sam Oduor<sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking
for
common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
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I feel we need to be proactive not reactive. This guy seem to enjoy the undue negative publicity and how guys are all soooo scared.... COME ON. With all the wizards we have in this forum, why should we get scared...... We need to attack and not fight a defence game. I support Woshi 100% On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM, chuks Jonia<chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
We discussed this or IRC, skunks channel, and we said if they attempt to go for the security forum which is also on this server, we go for the admins of that list full blown.
lol!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sam Oduor<sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
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Something reminds me of Kenyan MPs calling for military action on Migingo... Now what could that be.... hmmmm??? 2009/6/5 Logistik Creations <logistik.creations@gmail.com>
I feel we need to be proactive not reactive. This guy seem to enjoy the undue negative publicity and how guys are all soooo scared.... COME ON. With all the wizards we have in this forum, why should we get scared......
We need to attack and not fight a defence game.
I support Woshi 100%
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM, chuks Jonia<chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
We discussed this or IRC, skunks channel, and we said if they attempt to go for the security forum which is also on this server, we go for the admins of that list full blown.
lol!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sam Oduor<sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands
of
Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
-- People should know when they are conquered. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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-- -- Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester infosigmer@inbox.com
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Btw, What become of http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/5413792.stm ? Or are the bash benefits now visible? hehehe Alex On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Simon Mbuthia<simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Something reminds me of Kenyan MPs calling for military action on Migingo... Now what could that be.... hmmmm???
2009/6/5 Logistik Creations <logistik.creations@gmail.com>
I feel we need to be proactive not reactive. This guy seem to enjoy the undue negative publicity and how guys are all soooo scared.... COME ON. With all the wizards we have in this forum, why should we get scared......
We need to attack and not fight a defence game.
I support Woshi 100%
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM, chuks Jonia<chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
We discussed this or IRC, skunks channel, and we said if they attempt to go for the security forum which is also on this server, we go for the admins of that list full blown.
lol!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sam Oduor<sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we need to know what google is doing to cut on this groups from spamming, any Ideas? definately as a counter measure as Wash says we need to put filters .. you hv not considered the cost of CPU spiking & stuff to do with slowed processing due to spams & filtering that has to take place buddy ?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nasty fellows! Where is chuks and his security pen gun??..tee he he he!
On 6/5/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Spam, malware spread by Google Groups. Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
Sep 15, 2008 13:47 EDT
Spammers are using thousands of Google Groups to spread unwanted email and malware.
In a blog post, the anti-spam company MailChannels reported that the spammers sign up for Gmail accounts, then create new groups, usually with random-looking names. The spammers use the Gmail accounts to send keyword-rich posts to the fake group. These posts include a link to a URL that either directs the user to a to phishing scam or to a malware executable.
“We were able to find thousands of Google Groups that were created for the purpose of forming posts that people would stumble upon when looking for common keywords,” Ken Simpson, CEO of MailChannels, told SCMagazineUS.com on Monday.
Simpson stressed that users don't have to join the Google Group to be hit by the infected posts. The posts come up during a search within Google Groups -- not during a typical Google search.
One such search string is “Verizon bill pay online,” Simpson said.
“Users think they are getting a post that explains how to pay their bill online, and they click on the link," he said.
In his example, the URL took the user to a drug store website. Other links directed users to malware.
“What the spammers are doing is exploiting temporary weaknesses in the algorithm Google Groups uses to find results,” Simpson said. “Google's search engine is great for weeding out spam. Google Groups is a closed environment and there isn't enough information from internet users to know which groups are significant and which are spam.”
Google said it knows about the problem.
“Google takes the security of our users very seriously,” a Google spokesperson told SCMagazineUS.com, “and we actively work to detect and remove sites that link to malware. We are aware of this particular issue and are working now to resolve it.”
-- People should know when they are conquered. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Gentlemen, a saying : start a fight if you are committed 100% and can follow it through to the end. I think no one on this list has a mandate to be a cause of action, else that action will be considered illegal. The options are not many and targeting googlegroups which makes it complicated....... And at some stage in the next 2-3 years, unfortunately google is going to become a part of kenyan news for all the wrong reasons. Negligence and ignorance of one of its services that it offers is open to abuse and radicalism may possibly become a cause of loss of lives. This responsibility will be squarely on its shoulders. There is another issue that further complicates the matter. For the short period I was added to that list, I noticed plenty of innocent bystanders. There are also local media, Ngos who are sometimes contributors on the list. While the extreme views are expressed openly on the list by others, the mature contributors have not taken any steps to correct the problem. They have silently listened to views fit for far left or right. If anything has to change, is for its members to demand for internal change and strict moderation of such views. If organizations and mature people accept the views expressed, then they too are responsible for the outcome of such discussions. Question is : Is google aware and is it prepared for the seriousness of the outcome on kenyan scene? Question is : Why have the list members not stopped the extreme content on the list? Question is : email addresses are added without consent. What has google done about it? The actions against the list could easily become a historic ICT event with backers of the list screaming about freedom of expression while the others holding it responsible for its extreme content. Final question is : When does it become a national threat to kenya and what action that follows? Stats of offending list : 28565 members, moderated, restricted, Messages per month: 4059 fellow skunks, The matter is not a simple one. my simple views.....
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services? -- with Regards: Explore the Nairobi Economic Law of Price and Time of the Month at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. Rgds. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here. Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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Seems we now have a cold war in our hands. Please stop the personal attacks. A bit unprofessional. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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I associate myself with your view and I am not interested with privacy invading photographs links On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Philip Musyoki<pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems we now have a cold war in our hands.
Please stop the personal attacks. A bit unprofessional.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Yea because you would rather the attack be one sided. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
I associate myself with your view and I am not interested with privacy invading photographs links
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Philip Musyoki<pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems we now have a cold war in our hands.
Please stop the personal attacks. A bit unprofessional.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
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Only if people will pursue theiir agendas without involving those whom they hate but cant face. Lets stop cheap tribal attacks camouflaged to look as if they are real. We have seen them since 2005 and we havve nott been tirred in fighting them and we wont tire. BidiiAfrika helps in mentoring, assisting in getting of jobs and uniting professionals and those tribe has never been a barrier there. There are people who have been assisted to get jobs in UN, BBC, CNN, attachments in almost every big blue chip around. Been featured by Standard, Citizen, nation, East Africa Magazines, TVT, ITV and UTV without seeking an appointment and bribing scribes. na bado. watch for more soon Itss the only place you will get Blue Chip MDs, MPs, Common Man, Kenyan Professionals and Africans from all the more than 50 states. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems we now have a cold war in our hands.
Please stop the personal attacks. A bit unprofessional.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda. cheers! o. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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fine Mike, fine o. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group. So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms > and conditions before accepting to use their services? >
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/ http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/ http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608 http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f... http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl... http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4 And please next time, argue more knowledgeably On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. > > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. > > Rgds. > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? >> >
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I was waiting for a mail exactly like this from you. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves
http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/
http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608
http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f...
http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl...
http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4
And please next time, argue more knowledgeably
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
> My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents > responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to > counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. > > On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe > not the > > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it > is the > > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We > move > > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and > conditions play a > > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their > intent. > > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the > road for > > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the > process. Who > > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There > is a > > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list > is hosted > > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as > > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. > > > > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. > > > > Rgds. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the > terms > >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? > >> > > > > > -- > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze > all > the same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous > generosity! > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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he he. You have no defence there Phillip. Thats too detailed On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for a mail exactly like this from you.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves
http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/
http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608
http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f...
http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl...
http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4
And please next time, argue more knowledgeably
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke> wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions towards Skunks agenda.
cheers!
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
> Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a > political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending > BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying > after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her > mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. > Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they > are playing in the hands of opportunists > > In one of the photos here > http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see > some of them who are making noise here. > > Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents >> responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough >> to >> counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. >> >> On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe >> not the >> > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it >> is the >> > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. >> We move >> > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and >> conditions play a >> > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their >> intent. >> > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the >> road for >> > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the >> process. Who >> > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? >> There is a >> > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list >> is hosted >> > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such >> as >> > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. >> > >> > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. >> > >> > Rgds. >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the >> terms >> >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Solomon Mburu >> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi >> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 >> >> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze >> all >> the same way to the side of a hill! >> >> AND >> >> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >> generosity! >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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Theus I think you are enjoying this. And I don't want to indulge you. I have no defense because I have realized that this is a rat race. And as is the case with rat races, even if you win, you are still a rat. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
he he. You have no defence there Phillip. Thats too detailed
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for a mail exactly like this from you.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves
http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/
http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608
http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f...
http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl...
http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4
And please next time, argue more knowledgeably
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
> If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's > supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern > against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions > towards Skunks agenda. > > cheers! > > o. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a >> political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending >> BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying >> after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her >> mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. >> Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they >> are playing in the hands of opportunists >> >> In one of the photos here >> http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see >> some of them who are making noise here. >> >> Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu < >> solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents >>> responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough >>> to >>> counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. >>> >>> On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe >>> not the >>> > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, >>> it is the >>> > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. >>> We move >>> > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and >>> conditions play a >>> > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare >>> their intent. >>> > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down >>> the road for >>> > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the >>> process. Who >>> > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? >>> There is a >>> > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list >>> is hosted >>> > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such >>> as >>> > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. >>> > >>> > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. >>> > >>> > Rgds. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the >>> terms >>> >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Solomon Mburu >>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi >>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 >>> >>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze >>> all >>> the same way to the side of a hill! >>> >>> AND >>> >>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >>> generosity! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> > > > -- > Richard Omolo > Computer Science, > Egerton University > +254 73 5431503 > +254 72 1680611 > Box 536 Njoro, Kenya > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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Someone said that when you are brainless and daft you resort to insults to cover your inadequacies. And even rats have to race and even pigs have to race. But you might think that others are rats kumbe you are more of a cockroach and lower than a rat. Preying on the rotten. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Theus I think you are enjoying this. And I don't want to indulge you. I have no defense because I have realized that this is a rat race. And as is the case with rat races, even if you win, you are still a rat.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
he he. You have no defence there Phillip. Thats too detailed
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I was waiting for a mail exactly like this from you.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves
http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/
http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608
http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f...
http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl...
http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4
And please next time, argue more knowledgeably
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
fine Mike, fine
o.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack > on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia > an occurrence here > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote: > >> If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - >> Imelda's supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much >> concern against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable >> contributions towards Skunks agenda. >> >> cheers! >> >> o. >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a >>> political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending >>> BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying >>> after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her >>> mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. >>> Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe >>> they are playing in the hands of opportunists >>> >>> In one of the photos here >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will >>> see some of them who are making noise here. >>> >>> Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu < >>> solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents >>>> responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough >>>> to >>>> counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. >>>> >>>> On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I >>>> believe not the >>>> > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, >>>> it is the >>>> > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. >>>> We move >>>> > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and >>>> conditions play a >>>> > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare >>>> their intent. >>>> > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down >>>> the road for >>>> > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the >>>> process. Who >>>> > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? >>>> There is a >>>> > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the >>>> list is hosted >>>> > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such >>>> as >>>> > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. >>>> > >>>> > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. >>>> > >>>> > Rgds. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the >>>> terms >>>> >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Solomon Mburu >>>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi >>>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 >>>> >>>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze >>>> all >>>> the same way to the side of a hill! >>>> >>>> AND >>>> >>>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >>>> generosity! >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> Other lists >>>> ------------- >>>> Skunkworks announce: >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Richard Omolo >> Computer Science, >> Egerton University >> +254 73 5431503 >> +254 72 1680611 >> Box 536 Njoro, Kenya >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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OK guys, enough washing of your linen at the Nairobi River that Mutula Kilonzo promised to sign in(bu forgot to sign an affidavit). Please let us avoid hitting below the belt, that one on Imelda was way below the belt. As much as we passionate about our groups, let us come with solutions, rather than name calling. If unable to unsubscribe from a group, please LABEL/MARK IT AS SPAM., that will solve your problem. -- with Regards: Explore the Nairobi Economic Law of Price and Time of the Month at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com
Denis ! Hapo ni kweli! On 6/6/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
OK guys, enough washing of your linen at the Nairobi River that Mutula Kilonzo promised to sign in(bu forgot to sign an affidavit).
Please let us avoid hitting below the belt, that one on Imelda was way below the belt. As much as we passionate about our groups, let us come with solutions, rather than name calling.
If unable to unsubscribe from a group, please LABEL/MARK IT AS SPAM., that will solve your problem.
-- with Regards:
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-- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. George Bernard Shaw
And dont let yourself be seeing one side of below the belt. Be a mediator and not a biased referee On 6/6/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
OK guys, enough washing of your linen at the Nairobi River that Mutula Kilonzo promised to sign in(bu forgot to sign an affidavit).
Please let us avoid hitting below the belt, that one on Imelda was way below the belt. As much as we passionate about our groups, let us come with solutions, rather than name calling.
If unable to unsubscribe from a group, please LABEL/MARK IT AS SPAM., that will solve your problem.
-- with Regards:
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Gentlemen, my focus has remained mostly on tech issues, occasionally the rants on telcos. If I may comment : @Mike : I was subscribed to bidii list without my consent. Therefore, I'd assume it is natural for the list to get criticism for its actions. Email canvassing has its bad effects too so any criticism/feedback as list hosts should be taken as is and corrected too. The issue of setting up spam block for any kenyan mailing lists makes no sense, who knows valuable contributions will be lost in the process. On the issue of content, since I was automatically signed up, therefore I have the right to comment. My opinion is that as responsible list hosts ethnic, tribal, racist, segregation and the rest do not belong in our society. Political views, corruption expose etc are fine and your passions accepted and respected, however I can tell you that I tend to ignore front pages of some local papers nor do I need any lists nor sites telling me of any doomsday scenarios for kenya. I have a choice and I use it. It is probably one more reason why I may not do my online video project as planned. On the comment about Imelda, I believe her personal life is hers. An apology is due to her, as a gentleman and as fellow skunk. If you were offended with my earlier post, please feel free to correct it. :-) @Dennis : great efforts from you. :-) These are my last comments on this thread. Please feel free to correct as necesary. Rgds.
AKi I dont want to repeat whatever I have said and I dont owe anyone an apology. I stand by my statements and I dont tolerate theatrics. You dont want to tell me that whatever website or newspaper you read, you will want it only your way. There are many stuff I dont agree with in skunkworks and I dont go shouting and thinking that all should do it my way. Thats very immature way of viewing democracy. Democracy dictates that we understand others well especially those who dont do it our way. But if you want only people to be discussing those stuff which pleases AKI, you are one egocentric chap and the problem is you and so the solutions lies in you. The fact is that Bidii is diverse. I nowadays even see people I hate most, Gays, in Bidii fighting for their rights but I dont insult them and tell them to go to hell. I am reading more about them and understanding why they are winning the war for recognition so easily. Let your demand for apology also not be one way. Demand apology for those who insulted and maligned those who are not able to defend themselves in this forum. But if we start engaging in personality pleasing here in the name of balanced criticism, you will be suprised that its a war which all will be willing to fight. On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, my focus has remained mostly on tech issues, occasionally the rants on telcos. If I may comment :
@Mike : I was subscribed to bidii list without my consent. Therefore, I'd assume it is natural for the list to get criticism for its actions. Email canvassing has its bad effects too so any criticism/feedback as list hosts should be taken as is and corrected too. The issue of setting up spam block for any kenyan mailing lists makes no sense, who knows valuable contributions will be lost in the process. On the issue of content, since I was automatically signed up, therefore I have the right to comment. My opinion is that as responsible list hosts ethnic, tribal, racist, segregation and the rest do not belong in our society. Political views, corruption expose etc are fine and your passions accepted and respected, however I can tell you that I tend to ignore front pages of some local papers nor do I need any lists nor sites telling me of any doomsday scenarios for kenya. I have a choice and I use it. It is probably one more reason why I may not do my online video project as planned. On the comment about Imelda, I believe her personal life is hers. An apology is due to her, as a gentleman and as fellow skunk. If you were offended with my earlier post, please feel free to correct it. :-)
@Dennis : great efforts from you. :-)
These are my last comments on this thread. Please feel free to correct as necesary.
Rgds.
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Cool down Mike! Am not takin sides here but i think thez some measure of truth in wat u r saying. Mike, the reason why we fail on many fronts is we listen to too much nonsense, we r too open minded n do nothing about anything. For example, tell off those gay nut cases on bidii n let them know what is right. There r certain things u shouldnt even allow a discussion on! Two, frm the testimonials above n past experience Bidii rarely discusses topical issues without degenarating into character assasination: a characteristic of parliaments n salons! If i were u ad unsubscribe from bidii! And 4 ua info Aki is one of tha smartest IT chaps i knw around, n others around here. And can we now get back to serious dev related stuff? If u have to write, pls reply to my Q on Toshiba laptops. God bless u all. On 6/7/09, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
AKi I dont want to repeat whatever I have said and I dont owe anyone an apology. I stand by my statements and I dont tolerate theatrics. You dont want to tell me that whatever website or newspaper you read, you will want it only your way. There are many stuff I dont agree with in skunkworks and I dont go shouting and thinking that all should do it my way. Thats very immature way of viewing democracy.
Democracy dictates that we understand others well especially those who dont do it our way. But if you want only people to be discussing those stuff which pleases AKI, you are one egocentric chap and the problem is you and so the solutions lies in you.
The fact is that Bidii is diverse. I nowadays even see people I hate most, Gays, in Bidii fighting for their rights but I dont insult them and tell them to go to hell. I am reading more about them and understanding why they are winning the war for recognition so easily.
Let your demand for apology also not be one way. Demand apology for those who insulted and maligned those who are not able to defend themselves in this forum. But if we start engaging in personality pleasing here in the name of balanced criticism, you will be suprised that its a war which all will be willing to fight.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Gentlemen, my focus has remained mostly on tech issues, occasionally the rants on telcos. If I may comment :
@Mike : I was subscribed to bidii list without my consent. Therefore, I'd assume it is natural for the list to get criticism for its actions. Email canvassing has its bad effects too so any criticism/feedback as list hosts should be taken as is and corrected too. The issue of setting up spam block for any kenyan mailing lists makes no sense, who knows valuable contributions will be lost in the process. On the issue of content, since I was automatically signed up, therefore I have the right to comment. My opinion is that as responsible list hosts ethnic, tribal, racist, segregation and the rest do not belong in our society. Political views, corruption expose etc are fine and your passions accepted and respected, however I can tell you that I tend to ignore front pages of some local papers nor do I need any lists nor sites telling me of any doomsday scenarios for kenya. I have a choice and I use it. It is probably one more reason why I may not do my online video project as planned. On the comment about Imelda, I believe her personal life is hers. An apology is due to her, as a gentleman and as fellow skunk. If you were offended with my earlier post, please feel free to correct it. :-)
@Dennis : great efforts from you. :-)
These are my last comments on this thread. Please feel free to correct as necesary.
Rgds.
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@Mike, glad to know your opinion. I too stand by my position. Unfortunately, our positions help no one on the list. :-) @Kennedy is 100% correct that we need to get back on track. I shall apply self moderation on my postings effective immediately. Else, we are headed down an engagement road of which this list can do without.
Even in Parliament, when a member uses unparliamentary language or words, he/she is told to apologies otherwise the member is likely to be thrown out of the house.I think we can't be reprimanded in that way. But when it gets personal, I get to wary because personality attacks, reduces me to some gossiper and rumour monger. I think Mueni should sort out herself on the allegations on bidii list, and we have no right to be her lawyers, unless she so appoints us. I subscribed to bidii afrika without any duress and only comment to what is related to my interest. Let us stop this character assasination now. Perhaps we should go back to an earlier thread on the same bidii afrika and advocate for google to strengthen their opting-out of a group mechanisms. The way this issue is moving might surprise you when you come to realize that bidii afrika moderator is a skunkworker or there is an insider in skunkworks mailing list! My thinking. On 07/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Mike, glad to know your opinion. I too stand by my position. Unfortunately, our positions help no one on the list. :-)
@Kennedy is 100% correct that we need to get back on track.
I shall apply self moderation on my postings effective immediately. Else, we are headed down an engagement road of which this list can do without.
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Ntarotho What do you mean by AKi is the smartest IT guys? What has he done. What in IT in Kenya if not Africa has he pioneered? Lets not worship personalities. And where in Kenyan media do you think they discuss issues without "degenerating into character assasination"? In CNN, Fox, NTV, KTN, Citizen, Kiss? Character assasination is your judgement and you cant force people to use your judgement all the time. I dont see you having anything important and even serious allegations against Bidii. What you have are petty differences which you seem to have inside you. The funny thing is that you hate it but secretly you are into it. Subscribed in a secret name. However how would you be knowing all that is happening there without you being subscribed Mburu, dont force your judgement on people. When Mueni was writing those allegations aagainst others, did you tell her that she must stick to issues? Anyone who hits below the belt must be ready for an equal and opposite amoung of reaction. Unless your physics teacher didnt see it fit to indulge you in such. If we want to be professional, lets stick to it. But if you think that you can get away with character assasination and condemn reaction to such, pole. MO On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Even in Parliament, when a member uses unparliamentary language or words, he/she is told to apologies otherwise the member is likely to be thrown out of the house.I think we can't be reprimanded in that way. But when it gets personal, I get to wary because personality attacks, reduces me to some gossiper and rumour monger. I think Mueni should sort out herself on the allegations on bidii list, and we have no right to be her lawyers, unless she so appoints us. I subscribed to bidii afrika without any duress and only comment to what is related to my interest. Let us stop this character assasination now. Perhaps we should go back to an earlier thread on the same bidii afrika and advocate for google to strengthen their opting-out of a group mechanisms. The way this issue is moving might surprise you when you come to realize that bidii afrika moderator is a skunkworker or there is an insider in skunkworks mailing list! My thinking.
On 07/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Mike, glad to know your opinion. I too stand by my position. Unfortunately, our positions help no one on the list. :-)
@Kennedy is 100% correct that we need to get back on track.
I shall apply self moderation on my postings effective immediately. Else, we are headed down an engagement road of which this list can do without.
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Help! Help! Now its really getting hot in here!! Mike for the sake of the servers (notice am switching talk) frying lets kill this thread!..te he he! Let it go man, u now sound like one of those MAWE guyz -complainin bout anythin! Anyway Mike we apologize for any harm we have caused to you and your friends at Bidii Afrika. God (notice who i worship)bless u in ua discussions there! Nw for matters skunkworks, still wondering(since u seem to hv a lot of modem hours) if u could assist me with my Q on Toshiba laptops?? On 6/7/09, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Ntarotho
What do you mean by AKi is the smartest IT guys? What has he done. What in IT in Kenya if not Africa has he pioneered? Lets not worship personalities.
And where in Kenyan media do you think they discuss issues without "degenerating into character assasination"? In CNN, Fox, NTV, KTN, Citizen, Kiss? Character assasination is your judgement and you cant force people to use your judgement all the time. I dont see you having anything important and even serious allegations against Bidii. What you have are petty differences which you seem to have inside you. The funny thing is that you hate it but secretly you are into it. Subscribed in a secret name. However how would you be knowing all that is happening there without you being subscribed
Mburu, dont force your judgement on people. When Mueni was writing those allegations aagainst others, did you tell her that she must stick to issues? Anyone who hits below the belt must be ready for an equal and opposite amoung of reaction. Unless your physics teacher didnt see it fit to indulge you in such.
If we want to be professional, lets stick to it. But if you think that you can get away with character assasination and condemn reaction to such, pole.
MO
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Even in Parliament, when a member uses unparliamentary language or words, he/she is told to apologies otherwise the member is likely to be thrown out of the house.I think we can't be reprimanded in that way. But when it gets personal, I get to wary because personality attacks, reduces me to some gossiper and rumour monger. I think Mueni should sort out herself on the allegations on bidii list, and we have no right to be her lawyers, unless she so appoints us. I subscribed to bidii afrika without any duress and only comment to what is related to my interest. Let us stop this character assasination now. Perhaps we should go back to an earlier thread on the same bidii afrika and advocate for google to strengthen their opting-out of a group mechanisms. The way this issue is moving might surprise you when you come to realize that bidii afrika moderator is a skunkworker or there is an insider in skunkworks mailing list! My thinking.
On 07/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
@Mike, glad to know your opinion. I too stand by my position. Unfortunately, our positions help no one on the list. :-)
@Kennedy is 100% correct that we need to get back on track.
I shall apply self moderation on my postings effective immediately. Else, we are headed down an engagement road of which this list can do without.
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Mike, As a gentleman and decent human being, kindly desist from this sort of character assasination. It may have escaped you while sending the emails, but 700+ people will get copies you cannot retract. It's like damage in print, the newspapers are souvenirs for some. If you have a problem with someone, kindly email them directly. I am sure you would not like it if someone dug up your dirty linen and posted it in public. Thanks. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |
Phares When we have others calling people names you dont tell them of "character assasination". So if you want to have fairness, tell all to respect each other. It has to be mutual respect failure to which it will be mutually assured destruction. MO On 6/8/09, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike, As a gentleman and decent human being, kindly desist from this sort of character assasination. It may have escaped you while sending the emails, but 700+ people will get copies you cannot retract. It's like damage in print, the newspapers are souvenirs for some. If you have a problem with someone, kindly email them directly. I am sure you would not like it if someone dug up your dirty linen and posted it in public.
Thanks.
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My goodness, what is wrong with *this guy*? 2009/6/8 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
Phares
When we have others calling people names you dont tell them of "character assasination". So if you want to have fairness, tell all to respect each other. It has to be mutual respect failure to which it will be mutually assured destruction.
MO
On 6/8/09, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike, As a gentleman and decent human being, kindly desist from this sort of character assasination. It may have escaped you while sending the emails, but 700+ people will get copies you cannot retract. It's like damage in print, the newspapers are souvenirs for some. If you have a problem with someone, kindly email them directly. I am sure you would not like it if someone dug up your dirty linen and posted it in public.
Thanks.
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People, I hate to interrupt such lovely banter about linen and rivers with a storm love being shared between all skunkers, truly heartwarming but i'm looking to find anyone interested in iPhone dev't and Mac OS Dev't as a platform. Rahim. PS: Hate the sin, love the sinner. Mahatma Gandhi!
Phillip We fight such wars with people who thinks they know best but come later to realise that their knowledge is just too shallow. Why dont we stick to issues because I promise you that those whom you are seeing pointing fingers at Bidii, have personal issues with themselves. There are more than 5 Google groups from Kenya which adds people. Why pick on Bidii? They know why. Others are serving their interests. You can block never to be added in any group. Why havent you done that? Its all here http://groups.google.com/groups/mysubs Manage your subscription and block any additions. Nobody can add me into any group because I have blocked it and if they add me they wont manage to re-add me if I dont want to. Its simple. How can you manage servers and code watertight programs when you cant solve basic problem like emails. Its like those people who tel you they did telecomms engineering while they cant understand a simple GSM phone and have to call customer care all the time for even basic problems. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
he he. You have no defence there Phillip. Thats too detailed
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for a mail exactly like this from you.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Whining. Who is whining Philip. You dont come out here intelligent. You come out like you went to school nusu. Now let me start by giving you the basics. The government has constructed a road to Western Kenya. What do you want people to do? Not to go there? Still complicated? Ok Google has allowed members to add others, what do you want members to do? Please Musyoki. Dont feed us crap. Why do you want the mails to stop? Kenyans have things to discuss. If you dont have things to discuss stick to your other jobs. Ati its very difficult to unsibscribe from a the group. Which school did you go to study internet technologies. Or you never went to any. Ok let me send you links of basic tutorials on usenet and listserves
http://www.hostmysite.com/support/list-server/subscribe/
http://answers.vt.edu/kb/entry/173/
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=46608
http://groups.google.com/group/groupsknownissues/browse_thread/thread/fcde8f...
http://forums-tips-tricks.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-unsubscribe-from-googl...
http://markmail.org/message/bxg6fazh3tprrxd4
And please next time, argue more knowledgeably
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
I don't thing meant to attack anyone personally, most of us just have issues with BidiiAfrica. Maybe they hook up people with jobs with all those blue chip companies but may be the should consider that not all of us want to be hooked up with jobs. What I am saying is that we need to have the choice of whether to join BidiiAfrica or not to. It is a known fact that you get subscribed to that group without your consent, and when the mails start coming, they never stop. And it is very difficult to unsubscribe from the group.
So Mike Oketch, get real and stop whining. BidiiAfrica may be good but not everyone needs them.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:42 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
fine Mike, fine
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:38 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes and Skunkworks allowed insults and attack on personalities. Didn't you see that or is selective amnesia an occurrence here
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:35 PM, omolo omolo <omolo@egerton.ac.ke>wrote:
> If I am not wrong, this response inclines towards emotions - Imelda's > supposed personal life defines her existence - and investing much concern > against it probably might deflect your necessary & valuable contributions > towards Skunks agenda. > > cheers! > > o. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a >> political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending >> BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying >> after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her >> mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. >> Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they >> are playing in the hands of opportunists >> >> In one of the photos here >> http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see >> some of them who are making noise here. >> >> Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu < >> solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents >>> responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough >>> to >>> counter the child's militancy? My thoughts. >>> >>> On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> > Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe >>> not the >>> > issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, >>> it is the >>> > use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. >>> We move >>> > towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and >>> conditions play a >>> > key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare >>> their intent. >>> > And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down >>> the road for >>> > others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the >>> process. Who >>> > then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? >>> There is a >>> > genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list >>> is hosted >>> > by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such >>> as >>> > pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc. >>> > >>> > again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary. >>> > >>> > Rgds. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the >>> terms >>> >> and conditions before accepting to use their services? >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Solomon Mburu >>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi >>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 >>> >>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze >>> all >>> the same way to the side of a hill! >>> >>> AND >>> >>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >>> generosity! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Skunkworks announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Skunkworks announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> >> > > > -- > Richard Omolo > Computer Science, > Egerton University > +254 73 5431503 > +254 72 1680611 > Box 536 Njoro, Kenya > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >
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@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii ....................... but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far ......................... Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ........... which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ? as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER . On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
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LOL! LMAO. This flame war is going to be bigger than the ODM hack flame war last year but one. ROFLMAO...... On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, imelda Mueni<mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here. Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
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AND
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@Alai : While in the process of being a gentleman and fellow skunk, please tell your list mod* to remove my mail account from it*. sometimes and very mysteriously my mail account gets targetted by strange spam. backscatter could overlap into any list. I have no control over such events. :-)
wow! now the hunter becomes the h(a)unted:-) On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, imelda Mueni<mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
Mambo baaaad!! Any MAWE guyz out there?? Male battering just about to take place!! On 6/8/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
wow! now the hunter becomes the h(a)unted:-)
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, imelda Mueni<mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
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-- People should know when they are conquered.
Mambo baaaad!! Any MAWE guyz out there?? Male battering just about to take place!! On 6/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Mambo baaaad!! Any MAWE guyz out there?? Male battering just about to take place!!
On 6/8/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
wow! now the hunter becomes the h(a)unted:-)
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, imelda Mueni<mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- People should know when they are conquered.
-- People should know when they are conquered.
Ceasefire everyone. Please. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
Mambo baaaad!! Any MAWE guyz out there?? Male battering just about to take place!!
On 6/8/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
wow! now the hunter becomes the h(a)unted:-)
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, imelda Mueni<mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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its good you live on hallucination and looks like you have an Alai addiction. You are sure one desperate soul. Anyway Alai knows how to deal with you and we know that your desperation with your mum will be stronger. Who can dispute that On 6/8/09, imelda Mueni <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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HAVE A GOOD DAY ROBERT ALAI On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> wrote:
its good you live on hallucination and looks like you have an Alai addiction. You are sure one desperate soul. Anyway Alai knows how to deal with you and we know that your desperation with your mum will be stronger. Who can dispute that
On 6/8/09, imelda Mueni <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
@mike oketch u know mike a friend of mine running a mailinst also just know for a fact u r robert alai of bidii .......................
but u starting to insult my mother dont u think u r going too far .........................
Robert me not wanting to be subscribed in bidii africa its not somethg personal , u turning this personal n starting insulting my mother in that way ...........
which meeting is that u claim i went with my mother ?
as for the moderator of skunkworks i can tell u for a fact mike oketch AND ROBERT ALAI IS THE SAME PERSON
AS FOR THE INSULT ROBERT ,,,I WILL TELL U ONE THG LIFE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT DOESNT BREAK ME JUST MAKES ME STRONGER .
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Are we not playing in the hands of people who see Bidii as a political threat and also some whom we know were even very good in attending BidiiAfrika functions and events Like Imelda Mueni who is now just crying after she had to fight over a man in one of the BidiiAfrika events with her mum who works in Oxfam with one of the members of the group. Its very funny to see people talk thinking they know much kumbe they are playing in the hands of opportunists
In one of the photos here http://picasaweb.google.com/alai.robert/ParadiseLost# you will see some of them who are making noise here.
Political and personal interest masquarading as genuine complaints
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
My analogy. If there is wayward child in a family, are the parents responsible? Or maybe the laws in the family are not strict enough to counter the child's militancy? My thoughts.
On 06/06/2009, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis, google being responsible for that content is I believe not the issue and infact plenty are grateful for its services. However, it is the use of the service provided by google that makes it responsible. We move towards the nature of that responsibility. While terms and conditions play a key role, the person who signs up obviously will not declare their intent. And it is that disguise that may have deadly consequences down the road for others. All it usually takes is one crazy person to start the process. Who then will accept responsibilty when things go horribly wrong? There is a genuine complaint about the site and quite unfortunately the list is hosted by google groups. And the complaint is not about silly spam such as pharmaceutical aids or enhancers etc.
again, these are my views so feel free to correct as necessary.
Rgds.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Google is not responsible for that content. Have you read the terms and conditions before accepting to use their services?
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I got this invite on my kenyaweb email and after unsubscribing, no mail from BA ever made it on my inbox. Imagine being told the girl sleeping next to you is your spouse and you've sired kids with! That is the kind of nightmare we seem to get into with ba. How can we sanction this guy mara moja? On 05/06/2009, chuks Jonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL, horror this friday
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Gakuru Alex<alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, nyarotho kennedy<kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
I fear they could be sponsored by somebody..... some sort of 2012 strategy? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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BA and Skunks are pursuing parallel agenda; we better shy away from this subscriptions. o. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM, nyarotho kennedy<kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Nooooooooo!! Somebody...anybody. Mich/vincent/Riyaz save us from this eminent barage of political war.......
I fear they could be sponsored by somebody..... some sort of 2012 strategy? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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This might be a problem to those already subscribed to bidiiafrika. Means that theyll get the mail in duplicate, and with BA giving aabout 20 emails an hour, trouble. On 6/5/09, noreply@googlegroups.com <noreply@googlegroups.com> wrote:
nyaoke arthurnyaoke@gmail.com has added you to the BIDII AFRIKA group with this message:
welcome to bidiii afrika
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participants (28)
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aki -
Areba Collins -
chuks Jonia -
Dennis Kioko -
Gakuru Alex -
imelda Mueni -
Jose Ngunjiri -
Josiah Mugambi -
Logistik Creations -
Martin Muraguri -
mike oketch -
noreply＠googlegroups.com -
nyarotho kennedy -
Odhiambo ワシントン -
omolo omolo -
Paul Njoroge -
Peter Karunyu -
Phares Kariuki -
Philip Musyoki -
pithon kamau -
Rahim Kara -
Robert Alai -
Sam Oduor -
Simon Mbuthia -
Solomon Mburu -
Steve -
Steve Obbayi -
Theus Owicho