Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud. On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc. Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways... Josh _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Regards, Phares Kaboro Kariuki
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon! ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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http://youtu.be/_u7F_56WhHk ./bernard On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-( ./bernard On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really *that* revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same. Kelvin www.likechapaa.com <http://www.dukapress.com>www.dukapress.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We help make your website a success. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk.
The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely."
The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO. ./bernard On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk.
The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really *that* revolutionary??
Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera.
Good move by Amazon all the same.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk.
The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely."
The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: -
the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
Kelvin www.likechapaa.com www.dukapress.org
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al?
Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud.
On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia etc.
Speculation really... But worth a thought.... ------Original Message------ From: Josh Handley Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24
I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk - the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant predictive cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/
The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage data sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting ways...
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Hi Okech, Look at this spanner <http://goo.gl/JcFIy> in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes
a
dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
Kelvin www.likechapaa.com www.dukapress.org
We help make your website a success.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes
a
dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
@Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon!
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? > > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge
reduction
> in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud. > > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia > etc. > > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... > ------Original Message------ > From: Josh Handley > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 > > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk > - > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant > predictive > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ > > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy > perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage > data > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting > ways... > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > -- > > Regards, > > Phares Kaboro Kariuki > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Having been an avid user of Amazon sometime back, I am certain they will ship millions of this things. The Amazon experience is just something to behold. Amazon has also perfected the system for free/almost free shipping and does not need to spend gazillions on having physical retail stores like apple. I won't be surprised if they sell millions of the tablet on the launch day. But theirs basically is a content play which leaves me wondering whether they will be able to generate substantial profits from digital downloads alone while subsidizing the Kindle Fire. Best, John On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Okech, Look at this spanner <http://goo.gl/JcFIy> in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk
makes a
dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk
makes a
dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com
wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > @Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be > IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone > front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows > (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty soon! > > ./Ok3ch > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com
> wrote: > > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? > > > > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and the > > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge reduction > > in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud. > > > > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being the > > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated with Nokia > > etc. > > > > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Josh Handley > > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke > > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire > > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 > > > > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but Silk > > - > > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant > > predictive > > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it does: > > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ > > > > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the > > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict which > > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before you > > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a privacy > > perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage > > data > > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting > > ways... > > > > Josh > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Phares Kaboro Kariuki > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Google has to make massive improvements in their UI, and come up with a cloud strategy that will be convincing enough for partners and consumers. However, I believe this is the point where antitrust will kick in, when Android comes integrated with Google's own cloud offerings.
@Lusiola - just saw that, I think this positioning thing is starting to happen big time, now if they get screwed on Android side, they have M$ to fall back to, and possible invest 50-50 think its a good move for them, and the consumer also benefits. ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Okech, Look at this spanner in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally and which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
./bernard
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: > > @Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be > IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone > front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows > (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty > soon! > > ./Ok3ch > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? > > > > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and > > the > > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge > > reduction > > in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud. > > > > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being > > the > > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated > > with Nokia > > etc. > > > > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Josh Handley > > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke > > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire > > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 > > > > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but > > Silk > > - > > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant > > predictive > > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it > > does: > > > > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ > > > > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the > > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict > > which > > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before > > you > > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a > > privacy > > perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage > > data > > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting > > ways... > > > > Josh > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Phares Kaboro Kariuki > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Content is King :) Been a kindle user for a little while and loving the experience and convenience. Worth it if you are an avid reader. (even with the 100bob dollar) -- Josiah Mugambi On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Lusiola - just saw that, I think this positioning thing is starting to happen big time, now if they get screwed on Android side, they have M$ to fall back to, and possible invest 50-50 think its a good move for them, and the consumer also benefits.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Okech, Look at this spanner in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in
the
cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally
and
which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <
bmwagiru@gmail.com>
wrote:
What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk makes a dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally
and
which will execute remotely." The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle fire...:-(
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru < bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://youtu.be/_u7F_56WhHk > > ./bernard > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> @Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to be >> IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and phone >> front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows >> (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty >> soon! >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki < pkariuki@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? >> > >> > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and >> > the >> > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a huge >> > reduction >> > in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has iCloud. >> > >> > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google being >> > the >> > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly integrated >> > with Nokia >> > etc. >> > >> > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... >> > ------Original Message------ >> > From: Josh Handley >> > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke >> > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire >> > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 >> > >> > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price but >> > Silk >> > - >> > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant >> > predictive >> > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it >> > does: >> > >> > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ >> > >> > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through the >> > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict >> > which >> > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before >> > you >> > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a >> > privacy >> > perspective but from a business perspective having all that usage >> > data >> > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some interesting >> > ways... >> > >> > Josh >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Phares Kaboro Kariuki >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@Josiah, please enlighten me why I really need a kindle, yet I have an iPad with the kindle app and also my laptop has the same :-) ./Ok3ch On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is King :) Been a kindle user for a little while and loving the experience and convenience. Worth it if you are an avid reader. (even with the 100bob dollar) -- Josiah Mugambi
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Lusiola - just saw that, I think this positioning thing is starting to happen big time, now if they get screwed on Android side, they have M$ to fall back to, and possible invest 50-50 think its a good move for them, and the consumer also benefits.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Okech, Look at this spanner in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. > The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk > makes a > dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally > and > which > will execute remotely." > The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle > fire...:-( > > ./bernard
Is the browser really that revolutionary?? Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the PC version of Opera. Good move by Amazon all the same.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > > What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. > The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk > makes a > dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally > and > which > will execute remotely." > The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle > fire...:-( > > ./bernard > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru > <bmwagiru@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> http://youtu.be/_u7F_56WhHk >> >> ./bernard >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> @Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to >>> be >>> IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and >>> phone >>> front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows >>> (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty >>> soon! >>> >>> ./Ok3ch >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki >>> <pkariuki@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? >>> > >>> > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and >>> > the >>> > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a >>> > huge >>> > reduction >>> > in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has >>> > iCloud. >>> > >>> > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google >>> > being >>> > the >>> > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly >>> > integrated >>> > with Nokia >>> > etc. >>> > >>> > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... >>> > ------Original Message------ >>> > From: Josh Handley >>> > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke >>> > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List >>> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire >>> > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 >>> > >>> > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price >>> > but >>> > Silk >>> > - >>> > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant >>> > predictive >>> > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it >>> > does: >>> > >>> > >>> > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ >>> > >>> > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through >>> > the >>> > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict >>> > which >>> > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before >>> > you >>> > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a >>> > privacy >>> > perspective but from a business perspective having all that >>> > usage >>> > data >>> > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some >>> > interesting >>> > ways... >>> > >>> > Josh >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Phares Kaboro Kariuki >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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:) you have an iPad so I think you don't need it, unless you want the great battery life and the e-ink read-in-the-sun I also have the PC Kindle app, android kindle app as well, but much easier reading off the Kindle. As you said, one shouldn't compare iPad to Kindle as they (at least before yesterday) target different segments. Let's wait to see how this Kindle Moto plays out -- Josiah Mugambi On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Josiah, please enlighten me why I really need a kindle, yet I have an iPad with the kindle app and also my laptop has the same :-)
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Content is King :) Been a kindle user for a little while and loving the experience and convenience. Worth it if you are an avid reader. (even with the 100bob dollar) -- Josiah Mugambi
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Lusiola - just saw that, I think this positioning thing is starting to happen big time, now if they get screwed on Android side, they have M$ to fall back to, and possible invest 50-50 think its a good move for them, and the consumer also benefits.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Okech, Look at this spanner in the works. Samsung is now a micro$oft licensee.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
Interesting view from Opera: Amazon's Silk Browser is Flattering, But Five Years Late -
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393786,00.asp
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <
bmwagiru@gmail.com>
wrote:
Opera Turbo works majorly on the concept of proxy server. As for Silk, it's the same basic idea, but done with several improvements and optimizations for mobile devices. It's like saying "The iPhone is just a phone." its several things: cache, predictive cache, content optimization (image compression, etc.). A good amount of the content is pre-processed in the cloud rather than the browser. The only downside I see is that the optimisation is made for a specific platform: kindle fire. They even mentioned 'last mile' connection but since the Kindle Fire has no 3G. That's a major #FAIL IMHO.
./bernard
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. >> The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk >> makes a >> dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally >> and >> which >> will execute remotely." >> The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle >> fire...:-( >> >> ./bernard > > Is the browser really that revolutionary?? > Isn't this how Opera Mini generally works? Also, Opera Turbo on the > PC > version of Opera. > Good move by Amazon all the same. > > Kelvin > www.likechapaa.com > www.dukapress.org > > > >
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> > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Mwagiru > <bmwagiru@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> What's revolutionary is the cloud-based browser: Silk. >> The cool thing about silk is "Each time you load a web page, Silk >> makes a >> dynamic decision about which of these subsystems will run locally >> and >> which >> will execute remotely." >> The downside is that the browser works on Amazon's tablet Kindle >> fire...:-( >> >> ./bernard >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Bernard Mwagiru >> <bmwagiru@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> http://youtu.be/_u7F_56WhHk >>> >>> ./bernard >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Okechukwu < okechukwu@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> @Phares, yes insightful and true way of how things are going to >>>> be >>>> IMHO. Tablet front Amazon is going to be a big time player and >>>> phone >>>> front its gonna be Android (motorola+google??), iOS and Windows >>>> (Nokia+Microsoft). HTC better look for a place to fit in pretty >>>> soon! >>>> >>>> ./Ok3ch >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Phares Kariuki >>>> <pkariuki@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Am I the only one seeing the death of Samsung et al? >>>> > >>>> > Samsung is screwed on the tablet front. Lawsuits from Apple and >>>> > the >>>> > pricepoint on the Amazon tab mean their product will have a >>>> > huge >>>> > reduction >>>> > in sales. Lack of a datastore is also an issue. Apple has >>>> > iCloud. >>>> > >>>> > On the phone front, it will be a replay of WW1, with Google >>>> > being >>>> > the >>>> > untrustworthy party. Microsoft is going to be tightly >>>> > integrated >>>> > with Nokia >>>> > etc. >>>> > >>>> > Speculation really... But worth a thought.... >>>> > ------Original Message------ >>>> > From: Josh Handley >>>> > Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > ReplyTo: Skunkworks Mailing List >>>> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Amazon Kindle Fire >>>> > Sent: 28 Sep 2011 21:24 >>>> > >>>> > I think the coolest feature is not the hardware or the price >>>> > but >>>> > Silk >>>> > - >>>> > the cloud based web browser that uses Amazon EC2 as a giant >>>> > predictive >>>> > cache/optimizer. Here is a short video that explains what it >>>> > does: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://amazonsilk.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/introducing-amazon-silk/ >>>> > >>>> > The idea is that since everyone using the browser goes through >>>> > the >>>> > Amazon cloud back end Amazon can gather enough data to predict >>>> > which >>>> > page you will likely go to next so they can pre-fetch it before >>>> > you >>>> > click on the link. Not so sure how I feel about that from a >>>> > privacy >>>> > perspective but from a business perspective having all that >>>> > usage >>>> > data >>>> > sets them up to compete with likes of Google in some >>>> > interesting >>>> > ways... >>>> > >>>> > Josh >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > >>>> > Phares Kaboro Kariuki >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Josiah, please enlighten me why I really need a kindle, yet I have an iPad with the kindle app and also my laptop has the same :-)
Battery life + readability... Battery last's two weeks, and it's dedicated for reading... I, sadly, upgraded my Kindle at the beginning of the week for the price of the latest one :-(. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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