Qt developers for Symbian walking the plank if they don't switch platforms?
These(http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over...) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided. All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego (A Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die. --------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These(http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over...) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego (A Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These(http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over...) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego
(A
Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These( http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over... ) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. True. *swaying off topic abit, you might have noticed a new OpenOffice fork called LibreOffice and guess who's behind it? Oracle Corporation!!
If Google want to brag about Android being an open platform, they'd better diversify the NDK before disgruntled developers come up with a long term solution for smart phones not limited to frameworks or languages. MeeGo will be the only true open platform for developers once its out, by May according to http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/42365-intelnokia-meego-phones-are... On 3/9/11, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego
(A
Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These( http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over... ) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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I can't find proof that Oracle is behind LibreOffice. Can you give any leads? Why would Oracle start LibreOffice if they already own OpenOffice? ________________________________ From: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:19:06 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Qt developers for Symbian walking the plank if they don't switch platforms?
Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. True. *swaying off topic abit, you might have noticed a new OpenOffice fork called LibreOffice and guess who's behind it? Oracle Corporation!!
If Google want to brag about Android being an open platform, they'd better diversify the NDK before disgruntled developers come up with a long term solution for smart phones not limited to frameworks or languages. MeeGo will be the only true open platform for developers once its out, by May according to http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/42365-intelnokia-meego-phones-are... On 3/9/11, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego
(A
Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These( http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over... 6 ) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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Correction: its the other way round - Oracle taking over OpenOffice and intending to take over LibreOffice..the success of LibreOffice depends on how many participants/contributors it gets and how tenacious Oracle will get.. time will tell. On 3/9/11, Bernard Owuor <b_owuor@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can't find proof that Oracle is behind LibreOffice. Can you give any leads? Why would Oracle start LibreOffice if they already own OpenOffice?
________________________________ From: Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 9:19:06 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Qt developers for Symbian walking the plank if they don't switch platforms?
Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. True. *swaying off topic abit, you might have noticed a new OpenOffice fork called LibreOffice and guess who's behind it? Oracle Corporation!!
If Google want to brag about Android being an open platform, they'd better diversify the NDK before disgruntled developers come up with a long term solution for smart phones not limited to frameworks or languages.
MeeGo will be the only true open platform for developers once its out, by May according to http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/42365-intelnokia-meego-phones-are...
On 3/9/11, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego
(A
Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These( http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over... 6 ) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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Oracle is not behind Libre Office. Check your facts. Libre Office was forked from OenOffice because the developers no longer trust Oracle's stewardship. Same case with the Hudson project and the Jenkins fork. On Wednesday, March 9, 2011, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. True. *swaying off topic abit, you might have noticed a new OpenOffice fork called LibreOffice and guess who's behind it? Oracle Corporation!!
If Google want to brag about Android being an open platform, they'd better diversify the NDK before disgruntled developers come up with a long term solution for smart phones not limited to frameworks or languages.
MeeGo will be the only true open platform for developers once its out, by May according to http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/42365-intelnokia-meego-phones-are...
On 3/9/11, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt developers now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego
(A
Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These( http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over... ) deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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LibreOffice is not Oracle's in fact it was started because of lack of trust in Oracle's commitment to OpenOffice. As far as Meego goes only one hand set is scheduled to be released later in the year. Meego was also killed by the M$/Nokia deal and Qt along with it. Although Intel is still committed to it, their is no future for Meego as far as Nokia is concerned. --------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com ======================================= ----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. True. *swaying off topic abit, you might have noticed a new OpenOffice fork called LibreOffice and guess who's behind it? Oracle Corporation!!
If Google want to brag about Android being an open platform, they'd better diversify the NDK before disgruntled developers come up with a long term solution for smart phones not limited to frameworks or languages.
MeeGo will be the only true open platform for developers once its out, by May according to http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/home-it/42365-intelnokia-meego-phones-are...
On 3/9/11, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com> wrote:
It is so sad to see a developer platform like Qt being at the mercies of M$. If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. It is one of the most powerful C++ GUI tools you will ever encounter. Seems like opensource is being killed off from the roots. First java now Qt. How about that for a double punch. At least C++ is more of a standard than a product.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Highly unlikely Its a wait-and-see situation Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push Lighthouse now necessitas, is abit 'bulky' on packaging and distribution of Qt applications on Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/) - I don't see users having enough patience and/or concentration to download Ministro first before running my Qt apps.. unless I'm promising them an exceptional app.
On 3/8/11, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
All eyes and ears for the Qt SDK port to Android for Qt
developers
now.
Highly unlikely, Nokia + M$ is going after Android and iPhone. Qt/Meego (A Nokia/Intel initiative) was supposed to be the killer punch on Android and iPhone but Nokia kept messing up with road map causing year in year out delays. Lighthouse was to be the Android port but with M$ into the Picture am sure there wont be a push for the continuity of Lighthouse. Qt/QML on WP7 would have been a killer option but of course Qt has been a huge threat to .NET/WPF and M$ would be really happy to see Qt die.
--------------------------------------- Steve O Software Developer www.sobbayi.com
----- "Patrick Kariuki" <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
These(
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/nokia-tries-to-ease-developer-worries-over...
)
deals and acquisitions leaving some mobile developers "at the lights" (kwa mataa) and for those still trying to choose what mobile application framework to venture into, very undecided.
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True! Oracle cannot be trusted with sun's open-source products! They murdered Solaris.....*Those bastards! *I wonder what will happen to mysql*. *Most of their FLOSS should be forked just like LibreOffice and OpenIndiana did. Back to Mobile, IMHO Qt developers for Symbian are walking the plank....but not anytime soon Symbian, though being demoted to an old school OS, still has the *largest marketshare* in the mobile OS So you can safely develop for it now and suck all the life from this dying legend before its lights go out. To be on the more safer side, you can also invest in cross platform toolkits and IDEs like AIRPLAY - code once - compile for each platform. When symbian retires, you can just simply stop compiling for it....Peace of mind!
I still use QT for desktop appps On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:48 AM, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
True! Oracle cannot be trusted with sun's open-source products! They murdered Solaris.....*Those bastards! *I wonder what will happen to mysql*. *Most of their FLOSS should be forked just like LibreOffice and OpenIndiana did.
Back to Mobile, IMHO Qt developers for Symbian are walking the plank....but not anytime soon Symbian, though being demoted to an old school OS, still has the *largest marketshare* in the mobile OS So you can safely develop for it now and suck all the life from this dying legend before its lights go out.
To be on the more safer side, you can also invest in cross platform toolkits and IDEs like AIRPLAY - code once - compile for each platform. When symbian retires, you can just simply stop compiling for it....Peace of mind! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
On 3/9/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I still use QT for desktop appps
That's why developers need it on smartphones, because of its rapid cross-platform development capabilities(without rewriting the source code).... developers do not necessarily need MeeGo or what Digia has in store to be the primary smartphone OS but rather a means to be able to develop products using current and next generation mobile devices. What possibilities developers need to explore is whether MeeGo 1.2 (when released) or what Digia is yet to offer, will run on the smartphones in the Kenyan market, Aava(going for a whooping $2K+) and Nokia N900 are unfortunately the only handsets supported right now with the stable versions.
@Billy, true, QT is more than an IDE. There is QT creator and QT Designer, Those together make a wicked C++ developer framework. QT is also a very good IDE to work with in C++ On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
On 3/9/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I still use QT for desktop appps
That's why developers need it on smartphones, because of its rapid cross-platform development capabilities(without rewriting the source code).... developers do not necessarily need MeeGo or what Digia has in store to be the primary smartphone OS but rather a means to be able to develop products using current and next generation mobile devices.
What possibilities developers need to explore is whether MeeGo 1.2 (when released) or what Digia is yet to offer, will run on the smartphones in the Kenyan market, Aava(going for a whooping $2K+) and Nokia N900 are unfortunately the only handsets supported right now with the stable versions. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Now I woulndt be surprised if Mr. Elop decides that since Qt is such a nice fiddly squiggly little thing that developers love, they need to pay for it, just like little kids have to pay for candy :-) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa@gmail.com>wrote:
@Billy, true, QT is more than an IDE. There is QT creator and QT Designer, Those together make a wicked C++ developer framework. QT is also a very good IDE to work with in C++
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On 3/9/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I still use QT for desktop appps
That's why developers need it on smartphones, because of its rapid cross-platform development capabilities(without rewriting the source code).... developers do not necessarily need MeeGo or what Digia has in store to be the primary smartphone OS but rather a means to be able to develop products using current and next generation mobile devices.
What possibilities developers need to explore is whether MeeGo 1.2 (when released) or what Digia is yet to offer, will run on the smartphones in the Kenyan market, Aava(going for a whooping $2K+) and Nokia N900 are unfortunately the only handsets supported right now with the stable versions. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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dump QT for desktop n go for wxWidgets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
First quarter of the year is almost gone and the long awaited MeeGo v1.2 operating system is not yet launched, Nokia hasn't even announced which handsets will be using it..progress has been made though with the launch of MeeGo Smart TV but looks like its going to take a while before we can have the Chinese come-up with a pocket friendly smartphone running the MeeGo OS for smatphones.. a true open platform! Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo_(operating_system) http://meego.com/devices/smart-tv http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/meego_a_new_linux_os_to_fight_iphone_ip...
According to http://mynokiablog.com/2010/11/16/minimum-spec-for-meego-1-2-devices-confirm... Looks like MeeGo is targeting the high-end market for smartphones Minimum requirments; - 512MB RAM - 600MHz + Arm V7 or x86 processors Unfortunately nothing to compete with the Android OS available on the Huawei Uxxxx IDEOS popular in the Kenyan market whose framework APIs are not cross platform friendly (you have to rewrite your apps to support any other platform) for developers, something that MeeGo handles well with QT.
The IDEOS has a 600 MHz processor and 512 MB ram I think. And what is this story about Frameworks and APIs, or is someone just been emotional?
Which model? I'm looking at one with the ARM 11 processor and crying my heart out since a couple of us developed a cpp on the QT framework yet to be ported to MeeGo 1.2 when its finally released - enabling a user locate the nearest petrol station using webkit and google map api - try working with Android NDK c++ code and see how messy and emotional it gets!
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant> Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist. On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
I think people need to know that Mr Gates retired from Microsoft http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/celebrate-bill-gates-day-with-us/ An QT can also make desktop apps, so ranting and raving will not get you anywhere, move on already On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant>
Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist.
On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
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Paul..the desktop apps work fine - look around you, KDE - All QT developers(mobile) do since Nokia ditched QT for Windows mobile is rant - search around, google, you'd know that if you were trying to port desktop apps to a smartphone OS! On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I think people need to know that Mr Gates retired from Microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/celebrate-bill-gates-day-with-us/
An QT can also make desktop apps, so ranting and raving will not get you anywhere, move on already
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant>
Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist.
On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
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So, basically what people are doing is rant over something that they cant change On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Paul..the desktop apps work fine - look around you, KDE - All QT developers(mobile) do since Nokia ditched QT for Windows mobile is rant - search around, google, you'd know that if you were trying to port desktop apps to a smartphone OS!
On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I think people need to know that Mr Gates retired from Microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/celebrate-bill-gates-day-with-us/
An QT can also make desktop apps, so ranting and raving will not get you anywhere, move on already
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant>
Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist.
On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
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No, the tables are about to turn, in April hopefully.. when products waiting to be ported to this new OS start rolling out from your smartphone to vehicle dashboards. On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
So, basically what people are doing is rant over something that they cant change
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Paul..the desktop apps work fine - look around you, KDE - All QT developers(mobile) do since Nokia ditched QT for Windows mobile is rant - search around, google, you'd know that if you were trying to port desktop apps to a smartphone OS!
On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I think people need to know that Mr Gates retired from Microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/celebrate-bill-gates-day-with-us/
An QT can also make desktop apps, so ranting and raving will not get you anywhere, move on already
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant>
Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist.
On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
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Sugoi.....sounds good, if not, Windows is always hackable to Android On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
No, the tables are about to turn, in April hopefully.. when products waiting to be ported to this new OS start rolling out from your smartphone to vehicle dashboards.
On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
So, basically what people are doing is rant over something that they cant change
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
Paul..the desktop apps work fine - look around you, KDE - All QT developers(mobile) do since Nokia ditched QT for Windows mobile is rant - search around, google, you'd know that if you were trying to port desktop apps to a smartphone OS!
On 3/25/11, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:
I think people need to know that Mr Gates retired from Microsoft
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/27/celebrate-bill-gates-day-with-us/
An QT can also make desktop apps, so ranting and raving will not get you anywhere, move on already
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com>wrote:
<rant>Development on the smartphone "open" platform can get very emotional.. nothing much has changed from the days you had to send Nokia a fax to be able to download a ROM image for the Palm emulator before you even start working with J2ME, and Mr. Gates is making it even more difficult for developers to be able to work on a true open platform, he should stick to philanthropy instead of acquisitions </rant>
Anyone with a Nokia N900 going for a better price than what's on Amazon, please contact me offlist.
On 3/25/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, had not gotten you in the framework issue. Have no idea about the ease of development on smartphone platforms
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If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java. Correction. Qt is a UI framework, Eclipse is an IDE. There's Qt for java also called Jambi As far as Meego goes only one hand set is scheduled to be released later in
the year. Meego was also killed by the M$/Nokia deal and Qt along with it. Although Intel is still committed to it, their is no future for Meego as far as Nokia is concerned.
I wouldnt say that. Just like Maemo before it (which was used in N800, N801, N900), I think Meego will continue to exist not necessarily for mainstream users but maybe for devs. - Billy
Correction, there is a QT for Java, QTJambi, thats not supported since 2009 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Billy <billyx5@gmail.com> wrote:
If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java.
Correction. Qt is a UI framework, Eclipse is an IDE. There's Qt for java also called Jambi
As far as Meego goes only one hand set is scheduled to be released later
in the year. Meego was also killed by the M$/Nokia deal and Qt along with it. Although Intel is still committed to it, their is no future for Meego as far as Nokia is concerned.
I wouldnt say that. Just like Maemo before it (which was used in N800, N801, N900), I think Meego will continue to exist not necessarily for mainstream users but maybe for devs.
- Billy
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Yes, official support from Nokia ended, but it's still being maintained by the open source community. http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtjambi/files/ -Billy 2011/3/9 Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com>
Correction, there is a QT for Java, QTJambi, thats not supported since 2009
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Billy <billyx5@gmail.com> wrote:
If you've never used it, Qt is to C and C++ what Eclipse is to java.
Correction. Qt is a UI framework, Eclipse is an IDE. There's Qt for java also called Jambi
As far as Meego goes only one hand set is scheduled to be released later
in the year. Meego was also killed by the M$/Nokia deal and Qt along with it. Although Intel is still committed to it, their is no future for Meego as far as Nokia is concerned.
I wouldnt say that. Just like Maemo before it (which was used in N800, N801, N900), I think Meego will continue to exist not necessarily for mainstream users but maybe for devs.
- Billy
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