
@Rahim. Lets start by collecting views on an os kenyans want via FB, twitter & other social nw sites. @Odhiambo & the rest. An Os whose origin is kenyan will put us on the global map as an Ict hub. It is an indicator of our ambitions. Ur aware of nyayo pioneer & excitement it caused yet it failed. The prjct can serve as a local case study 4 our ict academicians & researchers. I agree it will cost lots of money & many yrs. But I think it is a worthy cause. For funding kenya ict board & kirdi. The latter has an ict r&d dept. But dont let the govt in 2 much lest they think it is a 2012 thing. The time is now 4 kenix. . Regards Martin

My 2 cents would be there are many local problems that require our expertise and can make an impact...an OS isnt one of them. Maybe am wrong...... On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Martin Mucheke <kmucheke@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rahim. Lets start by collecting views on an os kenyans want via FB, twitter & other social nw sites. @Odhiambo & the rest. An Os whose origin is kenyan will put us on the global map as an Ict hub. It is an indicator of our ambitions. Ur aware of nyayo pioneer & excitement it caused yet it failed. The prjct can serve as a local case study 4 our ict academicians & researchers. I agree it will cost lots of money & many yrs. But I think it is a worthy cause. For funding kenya ict board & kirdi. The latter has an ict r&d dept. But dont let the govt in 2 much lest they think it is a 2012 thing. The time is now 4 kenix. . Regards Martin
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A note of something that was said. I agree that there is S/Ware out there that does everything. MS, Linux, Mac OS. All are international competitors. Far fetched from what a realist sees, but what about us being real competitors in this rat race? Even that aside, having a localized operating system from ground up, and being able to make applications that are compatible with all "real world" softwares, and build on that to make the operating system a local standard. the incentives are numerous. By me, for now, just getting this done would be a start. Martin Mucheke wrote:
@Rahim. Lets start by collecting views on an os kenyans want via FB, twitter & other social nw sites. @Odhiambo & the rest. An Os whose origin is kenyan will put us on the global map as an Ict hub. It is an indicator of our ambitions. Ur aware of nyayo pioneer & excitement it caused yet it failed. The prjct can serve as a local case study 4 our ict academicians & researchers. I agree it will cost lots of money & many yrs. But I think it is a worthy cause. For funding kenya ict board & kirdi. The latter has an ict r&d dept. But dont let the govt in 2 much lest they think it is a 2012 thing. The time is now 4 kenix. . Regards Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Rahim Kara <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
A note of something that was said. I agree that there is S/Ware out there that does everything. MS, Linux, Mac OS. All are international competitors.
Far fetched from what a realist sees, but what about us being real competitors in this rat race? Even that aside, having a localized operating system from ground up, and being able to make applications that are compatible with all "real world" softwares, and build on that to make the operating system a local standard.
the incentives are numerous. By me, for now, just getting this done would be a start.
@Rahim, Let me be the pessimist here, but I still have to say, like others have already, that an OS Project is such a big monster to manage. Well, I am not in any way doubting your capability to manage a project, but, as nature puts in, you have to crawl before getting on your two feet. The crawling aspect has not been seen in skunkworks as yet. No suggested group "project" has ever taken off, or is there any? The smallest, and perhaps the first one ever, was to get the list archives into a Db. That isn't completed to date. There are others that have been proposed, discussed and "count me in" responses have been many but where are they? Has that been due to the lack of a project manager? Lack on funding? Enthusiasm? Let me throw you a challenge: Pick any three of those already proposed projects and see them to completion as the Project Manager. Please pick the most challenging ones. After that, re-evaluate yourself, and the team, and see if they are ready to handle a project of the magnitude of an OS (even a branch), and take a look at FreeBSD <http://bit.ly/Zfimw> Project. Perhaps it will give you an idea of what you'll ultimately face, if you ever get round to assembling a team for the project. Let me quote McDonald again. "There are many local problems that require our expertise and can make an impact...an OS isnt one of them." -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Rahim Kara <skunkingrahim@gmail.com>wrote:
A note of something that was said. I agree that there is S/Ware out there that does everything. MS, Linux, Mac OS. All are international competitors.
Far fetched from what a realist sees, but what about us being real competitors in this rat race? Even that aside, having a localized operating system from ground up, and being able to make applications that are compatible with all "real world" softwares, and build on that to make the operating system a local standard.
the incentives are numerous. By me, for now, just getting this done would be a start.
@Rahim,
Let me be the pessimist here, but I still have to say, like others have already, that an OS Project is such a big monster to manage. Well, I am not in any way doubting your capability to manage a project, but, as nature puts in, you have to crawl before getting on your two feet. The crawling aspect has not been seen in skunkworks as yet. No suggested group "project" has ever taken off, or is there any? The smallest, and perhaps the first one ever, was to get the list archives into a Db. That isn't completed to date. There are others that have been proposed, discussed and "count me in" responses have been many but where are they? Has that been due to the lack of a project manager? Lack on funding? Enthusiasm? Let me throw you a challenge: Pick any three of those already proposed projects and see them to completion as the Project Manager. Please pick the most challenging ones. After that, re-evaluate yourself, and the team, and see if they are ready to handle a project of the magnitude of an OS (even a branch), and take a look at FreeBSD <http://bit.ly/Zfimw> Project. Perhaps it will give you an idea of what you'll ultimately face, if you ever get round to assembling a team for the project.
Let me quote McDonald again. "There are many local problems that require our expertise and can make an impact...an OS isnt one of them."
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project.
From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

2009/10/19 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
imagine how the world would be if all of us shared similar interests? if as has been said "There are many local problems that require our expertise and can make an impact...an OS isnt one of them." does it mean taking an interest in developing an OS is mutually exclusive with the solution of other local problems. and if there are - and they will always be, isn't it better to state and seek their solutions? at the time of investing it, was the $10 m USD investment in Ubuntu the "best way" for a South African to spend money? members, let's be supportive. as Kenyans we have a tendency to impulsively put each other down (was about to say denigrate then seen it has similar roots to the N word) -- (+254) 722 74 84 55 | 737 74 84 55 | 752 74 84 55 they must find it difficult ... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority /gerald massey

Top posting :( If I had $10m and asked to build an OS, I would build something better than Mac OSX. But that's jus me. :) On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:16, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/10/19 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com> wrote: Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
imagine how the world would be if all of us shared similar interests?
if as has been said "There are many local problems that require our expertise and can make an impact...an OS isnt one of them." does it mean taking an interest in developing an OS is mutually exclusive with the solution of other local problems.
and if there are - and they will always be, isn't it better to state and seek their solutions? at the time of investing it, was the $10 m USD investment in Ubuntu the "best way" for a South African to spend money?
members, let's be supportive. as Kenyans we have a tendency to impulsively put each other down (was about to say denigrate then seen it has similar roots to the N word)
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i have a name for it .. lets call it . MauMau Running on a masai framework...

@Joshua and Wash, There was a project to create locales for several indigenous african languages, it ended on october 5. See more details here http://www.it46.se/afrigen/ and http://groups.google.com/group/google-africa-community/browse_thread/thread/... Those locales will be submitted to CLDR/Unicode, OpenOffice and GNU C Library. The list of companies that use CLDR are the who-is-who of the global tech industry, according to http://www.it46.se/afrigen/about.php. I had a chance to translate some words/phrases to my mother tongue, so in future, it might not be so surprising to find Af-Helledi as one of the languages when installing *nix :-) On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable.
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@Karunyu Looking forward to it On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Joshua and Wash, There was a project to create locales for several indigenous african languages, it ended on october 5. See more details here http://www.it46.se/afrigen/ and http://groups.google.com/group/google-africa-community/browse_thread/thread/...
Those locales will be submitted to CLDR/Unicode, OpenOffice and GNU C Library. The list of companies that use CLDR are the who-is-who of the global tech industry, according to http://www.it46.se/afrigen/about.php.
I had a chance to translate some words/phrases to my mother tongue, so in future, it might not be so surprising to find Af-Helledi as one of the languages when installing *nix :-)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable.
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Here is the real spanner, 1. I am a typical Kenyan. 2. I DONT WANT A NEW OPERATING SYSTEM, i just want the existing ones to work better. I want to be able to run dream weaver natively on linux, i want autocad to run on linux. 3. I want GIMP easier than fireworks. And i want it to have a better UI. 4. I want more fonts, more drivers on the fly and i want to be able on the fly to rip dvd's without having to download and install handbrake. 5. Anything IT related in swa is just NOT COOL, patriotic maybe. 6. I want all of the software free, i dont want ADS either, just software thats lean mean efficient and does what its meant to be. There you have it, plenty to do before your wayward ken*x projects. On 10/19/09, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Karunyu
Looking forward to it
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Joshua and Wash, There was a project to create locales for several indigenous african languages, it ended on october 5. See more details here http://www.it46.se/afrigen/ and http://groups.google.com/group/google-africa-community/browse_thread/thread/...
Those locales will be submitted to CLDR/Unicode, OpenOffice and GNU C Library. The list of companies that use CLDR are the who-is-who of the global tech industry, according to http://www.it46.se/afrigen/about.php.
I had a chance to translate some words/phrases to my mother tongue, so in future, it might not be so surprising to find Af-Helledi as one of the languages when installing *nix :-)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable.
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@Areba What you're asking for is similar to what i once posted on Skunks about the replicator. It's as utopian a dream as mine was put to be. which BTW, has already started as a sub project with a few individuals online who seem to know about what to do and how to do it so things are transpiring.. without additional funding. Thus my provocation on the Kenyan OS. BUT!.. considering what you've said, it's free software suites that do what the Adobe, Autodesk and Corel Suites do which now, looking at from a perspective on time and resource, can come in to play with ... why would someone create a software for use for free that will be benefited from by you as an individual while he / she are left broke on the pavement. There is a web model of the Creative Suite that is available from a third party but they get their funding with web marketing. The idea is sound, i see three options for it though. *1. *if we are comfortable leaving it as a localized free software and internationally gets to be a purchased software. *2. *In retrospect, it becomes a free software if someone is willing to donate a good amount of money for it's creation. *3. *Good Samaritans come together and kill the corporate market products by creating a Kick ASS suite of CAD, Design and Media Kit which costs NIL / Minimal amounts of money. I can get this project underway as my third for this coming year if there are people interested. I've set up a model plan for the OS which can be implemented in a similar fashion for the Design Systems. which is beneficial to the creators of the Application suite as a retail project. The Operating system as from my perspective is not a necessity like was said by others, however it is essential for our growth as a country in regards to a project that puts us on the INTERNATIONAL MAP ( reiterated from previous skunk responses ) It is a huge team project that can span over 2-3 years at the least but will be a great achievement for all Kenyans, not just skunks involved in this project as proof of our capabilities. I am now going to stick my foot far up my mouth with the following: If India can get all their superstars sold the US and still have a stron Economy and grow at the rate it is, disregarding the politics in Kenya, can we not as individuals hold stronger ground and get our own game going? There may not be visible benefits for the idealists and realists in the group and i'm ready for the headbanging there's going to be with banter about it but i'm kind of tired of paying for things that honestly are expensive. I'm tired of waiting for a day for support from an international firm, i'm exhuasted with the issues i hear about with certain operating systems and really, i'd like a change. Make some noise.
Here is the real spanner, 1. I am a typical Kenyan. 2. I DONT WANT A NEW OPERATING SYSTEM, i just want the existing ones to work better. I want to be able to run dream weaver natively on linux, i want autocad to run on linux. 3. I want GIMP easier than fireworks. And i want it to have a better UI. 4. I want more fonts, more drivers on the fly and i want to be able on the fly to rip dvd's without having to download and install handbrake. 5. Anything IT related in swa is just NOT COOL, patriotic maybe. 6. I want all of the software free, i dont want ADS either, just software thats lean mean efficient and does what its meant to be. There you have it, plenty to do before your wayward ken*x projects.
On 10/19/09, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Karunyu
Looking forward to it
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Joshua and Wash, There was a project to create locales for several indigenous african languages, it ended on october 5. See more details here http://www.it46.se/afrigen/ and http://groups.google.com/group/google-africa-community/browse_thread/thread/...
Those locales will be submitted to CLDR/Unicode, OpenOffice and GNU C Library. The list of companies that use CLDR are the who-is-who of the global tech industry, according to http://www.it46.se/afrigen/about.php.
I had a chance to translate some words/phrases to my mother tongue, so in future, it might not be so surprising to find Af-Helledi as one of the languages when installing *nix :-)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable.
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Hi Skunks, I hope you are well and looking forward to enjoying your Kenyatta Holidays. Now, I need this software asap! PPT to EXE Converter! Any crack, torrent, etc. The clien't needs the work done and completed and delivered yesterday! Anybody? The sofware is $45 on http://www.vaysoft.com/ . Can you help me buy it? As in, I give u the cash, you buy with you credit card? Or better, do u have the software? I am ready to give u kitu kidogo! Contact me asap. Or can you convert ppt to exe? ( powerpoint to exe - as one file- not the 5 files that is common when you export to a CD from powerpoint apps) Thanks in advance! Its urgent please! Regards, Peter Oluoch, CEO, Doxa, +254720969361 www.thedoxa.net For Websites, Flash Animations, Video and Photography!
@Joshua and Wash, There was a project to create locales for several indigenous african languages, it ended on october 5. See more details here http://www.it46.se/afrigen/ and http://groups.google.com/group/google-africa-community/browse_thread/thread/...
Those locales will be submitted to CLDR/Unicode, OpenOffice and GNU C Library. The list of companies that use CLDR are the who-is-who of the global tech industry, according to http://www.it46.se/afrigen/about.php.
I had a chance to translate some words/phrases to my mother tongue, so in future, it might not be so surprising to find Af-Helledi as one of the languages when installing *nix :-)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joshua Amolo <joshua.amolo@gmail.com>wrote:
Why dont we try and develop a Swahili Language pack for existing OSs like Ubuntu, FreeBSD and those other flavors, not only will it be relevant to our Kenyan market but it will make an inpact in the East African region too.
@Joshua,
Look at it this way: How may skunk(ette)s are fluent Swahili speakers? If none of them is, then there'll be nothing to motivate such a project. From my Kenyan experience, these kubaffs are contented with English. Please remind me of the times when Kiswahili takes centre stage in KE. Take for instance if someone were to post here in Kiswahili, would you read it? For me, I simply click delete:-)
The direction Michuki has provided seems a lot more viable, and doable.
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Hi everyone, Martin Mucheke wrote:
@Rahim. Lets start by collecting views on an os kenyans want via FB, twitter & other social nw sites. @Odhiambo & the rest. An Os whose origin is kenyan will put us on the global map as an Ict hub. It is an indicator of our ambitions.
Am not convinced that re-designing the wheel would get you there either. However, there are certainly other areas that would get Kenya on that map if we invested the available resources (time) to them. Examples; 1) Theres no out of the box DNSSEC Key management system only afew open-source solutions for registries. Nothing solid that i have seen/heard of for registrars. 2) AfriNIC has not settled on an RPKI solution. If we helped in development of such solutions, it would go a long way in placing Kenya ahead of the pack in the region. Since this are applications that would be used at a very high level. Ofcourse i cannot end there without mentioning that there are lots of other standards under development at the IETF (www.ietf.org). It would be good to see folks here spending time to engage on the development of the future of the Internet development if theres such interest to being at the cutting edge. Regards, Michuki.
participants (12)
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amanya
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Areba Collins
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Benjamin
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Joseph McDonald
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Joshua Amolo
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Martin Mucheke
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Michuki Mwangi
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Michuki Mwangi
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Odhiambo Washington
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Peter Karunyu
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Peter Oluoch
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Rahim Kara