...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions

True.

...

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

I disagree. One year is exactly that to the Bitcoin the last time it hit the 1200 mark was in early December 2013, and that is only basis we can build a profitable trend on for such a volatile currency So if you Buy the Bitcoin today for 380 and hopefully by Thanksgivings sell it for 1080 less statutory deductions then you get your Bitcoin annual bonus, any other result would only seek to prove the that this digital currency is near impossible to predict. T - 17 to 20 days to go to prove this. :-) On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions due to the multiplicity of factors that are involved.

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

Anyway if you need more info; like best places to buy BTC in Kenya buzz me off list and I will surely help!!!

John

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Around this time last year the Bitcoin made the great leap.. no telling what will happen this year - although all bets are on the 1st quarter of 2015.

Any pipe dream predictions? :-)

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Yeah Patrick I agree I was referring to innovation cycles within Bitcoin and Crypto currency in general. Things move super fast in this space because monetization problem is solved. John On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions

True.

...

...

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

I disagree. One year is exactly that to the Bitcoin the last time it hit the 1200 mark was in early December 2013, and that is only basis we can build a profitable trend on for such a volatile currency

So if you Buy the Bitcoin today for 380 and hopefully by Thanksgivings sell it for 1080 less statutory deductions then you get your Bitcoin annual bonus, any other result would only seek to prove the that this digital currency is near impossible to predict.

T - 17 to 20 days to go to prove this. :-)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions due to the multiplicity of factors that are involved.

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

Anyway if you need more info; like best places to buy BTC in Kenya buzz me off list and I will surely help!!!

John

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Around this time last year the Bitcoin made the great leap.. no telling what will happen this year - although all bets are on the 1st quarter of 2015.

Any pipe dream predictions? :-)

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Its $417 it appears its on another bull run...where to no one knows... On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Its hit the 380 mark today!! - for those working with the Concorde fallacy (http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/) on this - hang in there :-)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

...

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions

True.

...

...

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

I disagree. One year is exactly that to the Bitcoin the last time it hit the 1200 mark was in early December 2013, and that is only basis we can build a profitable trend on for such a volatile currency

So if you Buy the Bitcoin today for 380 and hopefully by Thanksgivings sell it for 1080 less statutory deductions then you get your Bitcoin annual bonus, any other result would only seek to prove the that this digital currency is near impossible to predict.

T - 17 to 20 days to go to prove this. :-)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions due to the multiplicity of factors that are involved.

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

Anyway if you need more info; like best places to buy BTC in Kenya buzz me off list and I will surely help!!!

John

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Around this time last year the Bitcoin made the great leap.. no telling what will happen this year - although all bets are on the 1st quarter of 2015.

Any pipe dream predictions? :-)

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Now at 233.. very unpredictable!! On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com

wrote:

Its now at 450 - work with the closing of the markets in Tokyo 11AM(GMT+3) and the opening of the New York markets at 4PM(GMT+3) - that's where you get your volatility indicators. Trading volumes have also increased.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:01 AM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Its $417 it appears its on another bull run...where to no one knows...

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Its hit the 380 mark today!! - for those working with the Concorde fallacy (http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/) on this - hang in there :-)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

...

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions

True.

...

...

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

I disagree. One year is exactly that to the Bitcoin the last time it hit the 1200 mark was in early December 2013, and that is only basis we can build a profitable trend on for such a volatile currency

So if you Buy the Bitcoin today for 380 and hopefully by Thanksgivings sell it for 1080 less statutory deductions then you get your Bitcoin annual bonus, any other result would only seek to prove the that this digital currency is near impossible to predict.

T - 17 to 20 days to go to prove this. :-)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:49 PM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Its really hard to make Bitcoin predictions due to the multiplicity of factors that are involved.

1 week is like one year in BTC world leave alone 1 quarter...

Anyway if you need more info; like best places to buy BTC in Kenya buzz me off list and I will surely help!!!

John

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Around this time last year the Bitcoin made the great leap.. no telling what will happen this year - although all bets are on the 1st quarter of 2015.

Any pipe dream predictions? :-)

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Now at 247

To get more insight you guys are welcome to the #TradeWithBitPesa Bitcoin Conference happening this Saturday 20/06/2015 at Jumuia Place on Lenana road next to CVS plaza, Kilimani area; Click to View Map <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jumuia+Place,+Nairobi,+Kenya/@-1.2890117,36.7937296,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x182f10bac74fa2f5:0xa1bde4d1e74fadb9> . To see the list of speakers and topics or to register for the event Click Here <http://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-traders-conference-tradewithbitpesa-tickets-17390374077> . Kind Regards, John On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Should we expect some action towards the end of June?

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102763842 ​ ..."Grexit". The debt-stricken country faces 1.6 billion euros ($1.8 billion) in repayments to the International Monetary Fund <http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000936> by the end of June

Scigala said over the past two months, with Greece locked in talks with its creditors, the company had seen a 124 percent pick-up in inflows from Greek IP addresses—numerical labels that identify computers and other internet-enabled devices.

Bitcoin traded as high as $252.05 on the Bitstamp exchange on Tuesday, its strongest in over two months, before easing a little to $245.21, still up around 4 percent on the day. That marked its sixth straight session of gains—its best run since January 2014.

Some have suggested that a bitcoin-like digital currency, backed either by Greece's assets or future tax revenues, could be introduced as an parallel currency to the euro in Greece in order to avert an exit from Europe.

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@Steve (and anyone else). There's a bitcoin meet up happening *today* from 6pm at the iHub http://community.ihub.co.ke/events/view/17581877870/bitcoin-meetup-this-frid... On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM Steve Muchai via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Hi John, Belated reply here. I happened to be leaving +254 when you had this event. Is there another planned some time?

Regards, Steve

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:07 PM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

To get more insight you guys are welcome to the #TradeWithBitPesa Bitcoin Conference happening this Saturday 20/06/2015 at Jumuia Place on Lenana road next to CVS plaza, Kilimani area; Click to View Map <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jumuia+Place,+Nairobi,+Kenya/@-1.2890117,36.7937296,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x182f10bac74fa2f5:0xa1bde4d1e74fadb9> .

To see the list of speakers and topics or to register for the event Click Here <http://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-traders-conference-tradewithbitpesa-tickets-17390374077> .

Kind Regards,

John

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Should we expect some action towards the end of June?

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102763842 ​ ..."Grexit". The debt-stricken country faces 1.6 billion euros ($1.8 billion) in repayments to the International Monetary Fund <http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000936> by the end of June

Scigala said over the past two months, with Greece locked in talks with its creditors, the company had seen a 124 percent pick-up in inflows from Greek IP addresses—numerical labels that identify computers and other internet-enabled devices.

Bitcoin traded as high as $252.05 on the Bitstamp exchange on Tuesday, its strongest in over two months, before easing a little to $245.21, still up around 4 percent on the day. That marked its sixth straight session of gains—its best run since January 2014.

Some have suggested that a bitcoin-like digital currency, backed either by Greece's assets or future tax revenues, could be introduced as an parallel currency to the euro in Greece in order to avert an exit from Europe.

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Thanks John. We're back to where we were a week ago (Now at 268) before the deadline and with the Greek "NO" vote. Despite the political turmoil, if the Greeks purchased the Bitcoin to shield against their currency weakening, then its done just that. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:08 AM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Hi Steve,

No events planned soon. You can watch the Trailer of our Bitcoin Traders event here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxxq62_-njo&feature=youtu.be

You will need to be registered on BitPesa <http://bitpesa.co> for full access to the speaker sessions.

Kind Regards,

John

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi John, Belated reply here. I happened to be leaving +254 when you had this event. Is there another planned some time?

Regards, Steve

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:07 PM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

To get more insight you guys are welcome to the #TradeWithBitPesa Bitcoin Conference happening this Saturday 20/06/2015 at Jumuia Place on Lenana road next to CVS plaza, Kilimani area; Click to View Map <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jumuia+Place,+Nairobi,+Kenya/@-1.2890117,36.7937296,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x182f10bac74fa2f5:0xa1bde4d1e74fadb9> .

To see the list of speakers and topics or to register for the event Click Here <http://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-traders-conference-tradewithbitpesa-tickets-17390374077> .

Kind Regards,

John

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Should we expect some action towards the end of June?

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102763842 ​ ..."Grexit". The debt-stricken country faces 1.6 billion euros ($1.8 billion) in repayments to the International Monetary Fund <http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000936> by the end of June

Scigala said over the past two months, with Greece locked in talks with its creditors, the company had seen a 124 percent pick-up in inflows from Greek IP addresses—numerical labels that identify computers and other internet-enabled devices.

Bitcoin traded as high as $252.05 on the Bitstamp exchange on Tuesday, its strongest in over two months, before easing a little to $245.21, still up around 4 percent on the day. That marked its sixth straight session of gains—its best run since January 2014.

Some have suggested that a bitcoin-like digital currency, backed either by Greece's assets or future tax revenues, could be introduced as an parallel currency to the euro in Greece in order to avert an exit from Europe.

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BitPesa.co is currently an East African exchange working in Kenya/Tanzania already complying with KYC(Know Your Customer) and AML(Anti Money Laundering) regulations in both countries. Greece has capital controls limiting Bitcoin activity in that country, however it is true people managed to avoid the credit/cash crunch by holding Bitcoin. Its been fascinating to watch... John On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

What we could learn from Greece today;

1.

Importance of setting up a Kenyan Bitcoin exchange within a framework mapped out by regulatory regimes.

2.

Not to judge a book by its cover :-) - Yanis Varoufakis, the self-styled (former) Greek Finance Minister, holds dual citizenship (majority of his assets could be in Australia), carried a backpack (with a headphone lead popping out) to most of the high level meetings he attended with the EU, rode a bike to work , flew economy on more than one occasion and resigned today to allow the Government negotiate a better deal with the EU. More: https://varoufakis.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/yvs-english-cv-2013.pdf

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com

...

wrote:

...

Thanks John.

We're back to where we were a week ago (Now at 268) before the deadline and with the Greek "NO" vote. Despite the political turmoil, if the Greeks purchased the Bitcoin to shield against their currency weakening, then its done just that.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:08 AM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Hi Steve,

No events planned soon. You can watch the Trailer of our Bitcoin Traders event here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxxq62_-njo&feature=youtu.be

You will need to be registered on BitPesa <http://bitpesa.co> for full access to the speaker sessions.

Kind Regards,

John

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi John, Belated reply here. I happened to be leaving +254 when you had this event. Is there another planned some time?

Regards, Steve

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:07 PM, John Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

To get more insight you guys are welcome to the #TradeWithBitPesa Bitcoin Conference happening this Saturday 20/06/2015 at Jumuia Place on Lenana road next to CVS plaza, Kilimani area; Click to View Map <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jumuia+Place,+Nairobi,+Kenya/@-1.2890117,36.7937296,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x182f10bac74fa2f5:0xa1bde4d1e74fadb9> .

To see the list of speakers and topics or to register for the event Click Here <http://www.eventbrite.com/e/bitcoin-traders-conference-tradewithbitpesa-tickets-17390374077> .

Kind Regards,

John

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Should we expect some action towards the end of June?

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102763842 ​ ..."Grexit". The debt-stricken country faces 1.6 billion euros ($1.8 billion) in repayments to the International Monetary Fund <http://www.cnbc.com/id/10000936> by the end of June

Scigala said over the past two months, with Greece locked in talks with its creditors, the company had seen a 124 percent pick-up in inflows from Greek IP addresses—numerical labels that identify computers and other internet-enabled devices.

Bitcoin traded as high as $252.05 on the Bitstamp exchange on Tuesday, its strongest in over two months, before easing a little to $245.21, still up around 4 percent on the day. That marked its sixth straight session of gains—its best run since January 2014.

Some have suggested that a bitcoin-like digital currency, backed either by Greece's assets or future tax revenues, could be introduced as an parallel currency to the euro in Greece in order to avert an exit from Europe.

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Now @ 300 ... rallying behind the bulls On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Patrick Kariuki <patrick.kariuki@gmail.com

wrote:

Its that time of the year again...

2 notable surges throughout the year all hitting the 300mark

My bet's on another surge between now and January... or not :-)

Day trading the bitcoin still remains a nightmare with the trading fees but on a weekly basis it can work as a business. Its obviously gained some credence over the past months with less security related incidences. Any trader taking advantage of the hourly negative and positive spikes ...has a kiosk owner/hawker thrill :-) On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

VISA has built a smart contract application that uses bitcoin blockchain tech.

See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rLNbd6MQXg

Bitcoin is going mainstream under the moniker - Blockchain :-)

I tweet regularly on new developments you can follow @KaranjaJohn <http://twitter.com/KaranjaJohn>

Cheers,

John

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Now @ 300 ... rallying behind the bulls

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Its that time of the year again...

2 notable surges throughout the year all hitting the 300mark

My bet's on another surge between now and January... or not :-)

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At this rate... come November 27th we should have a record high for this year. Now @ 435 On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:41 PM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

True that, not easy to day trade bitcoin without the assistance of trading bots and better yet prediction analysis skills.

speculation is just the first network effect for the first application "bitcoin the currency" there are other network effects involving Bitcoin the protocol and platform.

If you think of Bitcoin as the Internet of Money not just a payment solution you can start imagining a myriad of solutions that can benefit from the platform.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Day trading the bitcoin still remains a nightmare with the trading fees but on a weekly basis it can work as a business. Its obviously gained some credence over the past months with less security related incidences.

Any trader taking advantage of the hourly negative and positive spikes ...has a kiosk owner/hawker thrill :-)

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM, John Karanja <mauxdatabase@gmail.com> wrote:

...

VISA has built a smart contract application that uses bitcoin blockchain tech.

See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rLNbd6MQXg

Bitcoin is going mainstream under the moniker - Blockchain :-)

I tweet regularly on new developments you can follow @KaranjaJohn <http://twitter.com/KaranjaJohn>

Cheers,

John

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Patrick Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

...

Now @ 300 ... rallying behind the bulls

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Its that time of the year again...

2 notable surges throughout the year all hitting the 300mark

My bet's on another surge between now and January... or not :-)

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