How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them. Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( ) -Alex
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Alex Wanjohi<wanjohialex@gmail.com> wrote:
How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could
Was reading a times.co.uk article on this the other day. They are just conspiracy theories.
have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them.
Do you believe in pyramid schemes as well?
Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( )
Missing link. Go to sleep. BR, S
Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians. God Bless y'all! On 7/16/09, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Alex Wanjohi<wanjohialex@gmail.com> wrote:
How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could
Was reading a times.co.uk article on this the other day. They are just conspiracy theories.
have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them.
Do you believe in pyramid schemes as well?
Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( )
Missing link. Go to sleep.
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Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians. God Bless y'all! On 7/16/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians.
God Bless y'all!
On 7/16/09, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Alex Wanjohi<wanjohialex@gmail.com> wrote:
How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could
Was reading a times.co.uk article on this the other day. They are just conspiracy theories.
have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them.
Do you believe in pyramid schemes as well?
Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( )
Missing link. Go to sleep.
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Reminds me of zeitgeist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist,_the_Movie>. A film about alleged historical and modern conspiracies, including the origins of Christianity, the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and the banking system. Get a copy and watch, then chose what you want to believe..... On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:57 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians.
God Bless y'all!
On 7/16/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians.
God Bless y'all!
On 7/16/09, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Alex Wanjohi<wanjohialex@gmail.com> wrote:
How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could
Was reading a times.co.uk article on this the other day. They are just conspiracy theories.
have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them.
Do you believe in pyramid schemes as well?
Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( )
Missing link. Go to sleep.
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Sites such as this one have been increasingly putting evidence out that the Apollo Moon landings were fake; http://www.geocities.com/nasascam/ http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html And there might be truth to what they claim because a lot of questions remain answered about the moon landings because the scientists involved like Neil Armstrong continually evade the media. Writers such as Bill Kaysing,started this theory which was picked up by the Fox News Channel in February 13, 2001,as shown in their site. : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,63045,00.html NASA continues to refute these claims, poking numerous holes in the Conspiracy theorists' evidence, but I believe there are valid claims to the theory.Your take on this?
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Seen afew myself eg a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. . . Claims tha no-one can go through the van- allen belt of radiation n live to tell it. . . Thus a moon trip wud be fatal. . On 7/16/09, Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com> wrote:
Sites such as this one have been increasingly putting evidence out that the Apollo Moon landings were fake; http://www.geocities.com/nasascam/ http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html And there might be truth to what they claim because a lot of questions remain answered about the moon landings because the scientists involved like Neil Armstrong continually evade the media. Writers such as Bill Kaysing,started this theory which was picked up by the Fox News Channel in February 13, 2001,as shown in their site. : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,63045,00.html NASA continues to refute these claims, poking numerous holes in the Conspiracy theorists' evidence, but I believe there are valid claims to the theory.Your take on this?
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For those who watch Mythbusters, I think they did one of this moon story. And they confirm that man did land on the moon. Seems there were some glass prisms left on the moon by the team that was on the moon which were to reflect light to the earth at a specif wavelength. And it worked. But I guess you will say that the Mythbust is also a conspiracy. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Seen afew myself eg a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. . . Claims tha no-one can go through the van- allen belt of radiation n live to tell it. . . Thus a moon trip wud be fatal. .
On 7/16/09, Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com> wrote:
Sites such as this one have been increasingly putting evidence out that the Apollo Moon landings were fake; http://www.geocities.com/nasascam/ http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html And there might be truth to what they claim because a lot of questions remain answered about the moon landings because the scientists involved like Neil Armstrong continually evade the media. Writers such as Bill Kaysing,started this theory which was picked up by the Fox News Channel in February 13, 2001,as shown in their site. : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,63045,00.html NASA continues to refute these claims, poking numerous holes in the Conspiracy theorists' evidence, but I believe there are valid claims to the theory.Your take on this?
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Didnt the mythbusters tackle these claims and find that the landings actually did happen. here are the results http://mythbustersresults.com/episode-104-nasa-moon-landing Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Paul Njoroge Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:49 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon Reminds me of zeitgeist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist,_the_Movie> . A film about alleged historical and modern conspiracies, including the origins of Christianity, the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and the banking system. Get a copy and watch, then chose what you want to believe..... On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:57 AM, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote: Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians. God Bless y'all! On 7/16/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Got several documentaries on this subject and trust me after watching one you will agree that the moon trip was a lie -contradicting shadows, flags being blown around by the wind etc. That thing was acted out at Area 51, Texas. Imagine that with the vastly improved technology, all US attempts at sending another man to the moon have failed miserably ever since. These guyz just wanted to beat the Russians.
God Bless y'all!
On 7/16/09, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Alex Wanjohi<wanjohialex@gmail.com> wrote:
How true are the allegations that the first moon visit by the US was a lie ..? According to some literature its all a coverup and that no one could
Was reading a times.co.uk article on this the other day. They are just conspiracy theories.
have managed to land on the moon and back during those days. I tend to believe them.
Do you believe in pyramid schemes as well?
Here's one of them - (though this site gives the impression of gutter :( )
Missing link. Go to sleep.
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Some of the claims made by mythbusters are tackled here if you read it carefully. http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html Some claims among conspiracy theorists like "A flag cannot wave in a vacuum" are obviously flawed, but that does not mean that every claim is untrue and by the way,one does not need man on the moon to place a reflector on its surface,a robotic machine can easily do that,and several such machines have been sent to space. The mythbusters have focused on only a few of those claims and said nothing about the other numerous claims raised by the skeptics.And what makes you think its not possible to fake something in a show like that one?
Incidentally, Sky News are reporting that NASA are releasing never-seen-before, clearer footage of the moon landing in 1969, 4pm Kenya time live on Sky. On 7/16/09, Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of the claims made by mythbusters are tackled here if you read it carefully. http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html Some claims among conspiracy theorists like "A flag cannot wave in a vacuum" are obviously flawed, but that does not mean that every claim is untrue and by the way,one does not need man on the moon to place a reflector on its surface,a robotic machine can easily do that,and several such machines have been sent to space. The mythbusters have focused on only a few of those claims and said nothing about the other numerous claims raised by the skeptics.And what makes you think its not possible to fake something in a show like that one?
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The biggest question is : Given how crappy the technology of the 70s was compared to now - how come no one has ever gone back to the moon ? Have you heard of any moon landings since the last Apollo in 1972 ? We should be doing morning and afternoon trips to the moon by now, right ? There has been no further attempt after the Russians bowed down to the US on the space race - the cold war ended, and the moon trips suspiciously stopped... If anyone can answer this - then I will believe they landed on the moon and not on a huge pre-recorded footage on a Hollywood studio. <The film "A space odyssey" 2001 - by Stanley Kubrick moon landing scenes at around the same period [1968] really echoes the choreographed moon landing sentiments> But looking at it from another angle - why would the US go through all the trouble and spend billions just for show ?
On 7/16/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
The biggest question is :
Given how crappy the technology of the 70s was compared to now - how come no one has ever gone back to the moon ?
Have you heard of any moon landings since the last Apollo in 1972 ?
We should be doing morning and afternoon trips to the moon by now, right ?
There has been no further attempt after the Russians bowed down to the US on the space race - the cold war ended, and the moon trips suspiciously stopped...
If anyone can answer this - then I will believe they landed on the moon and not on a huge pre-recorded footage on a Hollywood studio.
<The film "A space odyssey" 2001 - by Stanley Kubrick moon landing scenes at around the same period [1968] really echoes the choreographed moon landing sentiments>
But looking at it from another angle - why would the US go through all the trouble and spend billions just for show ?
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i know for a fact that the US never made it to the moon. The whole thing was staged so as to make th Soviets think that the US was far more superior technologicaly than them.
I had done some extensive research on this. Havent got the links right now but will check, Youtube has various videos.. nay, plethoras of videos on the subject which identify why we havent "Returned" to the moon. Alot of videos and confessions of US Gov't employees about alien space stations on the moon that caused us to flee and not return, Also check on Cheyenne mountain and the underground labs / offices. 27 Stories .. yes, 27 Stories down under with metre thick titanium doors sealing each entrance to the floors. Reasons for this? who knows. WarShips docking in underground Caves, UFO Sightings and allegations about Aliens in the world. Bermuda Triangle Mayan Calendar 2012. All these work in relevance to the moon landings. Seek on youtube and ye shall find. Live long and Prosper On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:26 PM, ndungu stephen wrote:
The biggest question is :
Given how crappy the technology of the 70s was compared to now - how come no one has ever gone back to the moon ?
Have you heard of any moon landings since the last Apollo in 1972 ?
We should be doing morning and afternoon trips to the moon by now, right ?
There has been no further attempt after the Russians bowed down to the US on the space race - the cold war ended, and the moon trips suspiciously stopped...
If anyone can answer this - then I will believe they landed on the moon and not on a huge pre-recorded footage on a Hollywood studio.
<The film "A space odyssey" 2001 - by Stanley Kubrick moon landing scenes at around the same period [1968] really echoes the choreographed moon landing sentiments>
But looking at it from another angle - why would the US go through all the trouble and spend billions just for show ? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I am a big sci-fi fan but i have never ever bought the aliens story... How come they always land in the US ? Why not Kenya ? [Is it because we dont have Newyork Stock Exchange or Nasdaq ?] There was a rumor of a sighting in the Maasai Mara back in 1986 ,, or is it 1987 ? But these are just rumors - mabbe it was an anti-gravity test vehicle ? The day I see one or an undeveloped photo still in camera, then we can say we have an unidentified craft [but not aliens [?][?][?]]
LMFAO!!!! :-) I can now swear that we are going through some phase! Kiania started it, Tyrus followed with one, then someone calls smileys binoculars and now .... guyz plz stop, my ribs hurt! If this has anything to with what I said about think outside the box ( not conspiracy theories) I apologise... LOL!!!! :-) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
I am a big sci-fi fan but i have never ever bought the aliens story...
How come they always land in the US ?
Why not Kenya ?
< On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Martin Gachunga <gachunga@gmail.com>wrote:
Incidentally, Sky News are reporting that NASA are releasing never-seen-before, clearer footage of the moon landing in 1969, 4pm Kenya time live on Sky.
And this makes me even more skeptical.Why release that footage eons later?After doing retouches, airbrushing with modern film technology?And after considering the skeptics remarks about the flawed films, they release a revised Apollo Season 2 without the flaws in season 1.This could be just as 'real' as Stargate Atlantis!
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what difference will it make if there was a moon landing or not. You have most the technology you use today has its roots or ties with nasa in some way. anyway people are still trying to figure out whether Jesus walked the earth or not. Same story here. Just as there those with evidence (speculation blah blah ) that Hitler didnt die... the same for Bruce Lee and Elvis Prestly... now im waiting for Michael Jackson. In short whatever you do there will be proponents and opponents. So i suggest people stop trying to outsmart the scientists at Nasa thinking you think more logically than them in that these guys are not smart enough to figure our about shadows and light and gravity blah blah. Entertainers specifically Illusionists can make something disappear right infront of your eyes and just coz you saw it disappear doesnt mean it disappeared. Ya'll used to send junk email with loads of pics showing optical illusions, dont let a picture with shadow that looks bent out of place think you have figured it all out. The point is, dont look a photo and think you have it all figured out. if you can build a rocket surely am sure you can figure out how a flag would behave in a vacuum without air resistance (by the way it can actually and will not stop moving vigourously without air resistance). Remember these guys had nuclear physics at hand way before the space program and even went ahead to use it. Germany had rocket technology in the late 30s at their disposal so none of this is new Am just wondering if today nasa says the moon landing did not happen. will we all stop using satelite commincation in protest. C'mon you guys stop trying to figure out stuff you cant or can prove. Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Edwin Wambua Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:45 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon < On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Martin Gachunga <gachunga@gmail.com> wrote: Incidentally, Sky News are reporting that NASA are releasing never-seen-before, clearer footage of the moon landing in 1969, 4pm Kenya time live on Sky.
And this makes me even more skeptical.Why release that footage eons later?After doing retouches, airbrushing with modern film technology?And after considering the skeptics remarks about the flawed films, they release a revised Apollo Season 2 without the flaws in season 1.This could be just as 'real' as Stargate Atlantis! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Edwin Wambua Tel No:+254721995519
I think Steve gets it right. Most things you have not witnessed are a matter of faith and belief. Just because you can't see electrons and protons, it does not mean they do not exist.The space race was very documented, by independent parties and if the moon landing did not take place, I am sure people would have know, There are so many conspiracies out there. The Mayans belief the world will end on December 22, 2012. Now will the world really end? And by the way, Hitler did not die in 1945. He lived a long life and died in 1978 in Southern France. But the Russian's claim they have his skull somewhere in Moscow. Which one do you want to believe? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
what difference will it make if there was a moon landing or not. You have most the technology you use today has its roots or ties with nasa in some way. anyway people are still trying to figure out whether Jesus walked the earth or not. Same story here. Just as there those with evidence (speculation blah blah ) that Hitler didnt die... the same for Bruce Lee and Elvis Prestly... now im waiting for Michael Jackson.
In short whatever you do there will be proponents and opponents. So i suggest people stop trying to outsmart the scientists at Nasa thinking you think more logically than them in that these guys are not smart enough to figure our about shadows and light and gravity blah blah. Entertainers specifically Illusionists can make something disappear right infront of your eyes and just coz you saw it disappear doesnt mean it disappeared. Ya'll used to send junk email with loads of pics showing optical illusions, dont let a picture with shadow that looks bent out of place think you have figured it all out. The point is, dont look a photo and think you have it all figured out. if you can build a rocket surely am sure you can figure out how a flag would behave in a vacuum without air resistance (by the way it can actually and will not stop moving vigourously without air resistance). Remember these guys had nuclear physics at hand way before the space program and even went ahead to use it. Germany had rocket technology in the late 30s at their disposal so none of this is new
Am just wondering if today nasa says the moon landing did not happen. will we all stop using satelite commincation in protest.
C'mon you guys stop trying to figure out stuff you cant or can prove.
Steve Obbayi,
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Martin Gachunga <gachunga@gmail.com>wrote:
Incidentally, Sky News are reporting that NASA are releasing never-seen-before, clearer footage of the moon landing in 1969, 4pm Kenya time live on Sky.
And this makes me even more skeptical.Why release that footage eons later?After doing retouches, airbrushing with modern film technology?And after considering the skeptics remarks about the flawed films, they release a revised Apollo Season 2 without the flaws in season 1.This could be just as 'real' as Stargate Atlantis!
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But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race.... A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you] What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ? I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ? Its a valid question when you think about it...
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
Maybe Nasa actually sent chimps and not humans -- thats why Neil Armstrong hasnt spoken since, he is actually a chimp in a man's body, and Edwin Aldrin is in reality a chihuahua.
This is hilarious ;-) then again maybe even yesterdays space shuttle launch was fake ;-) Hollywood stuff maybe ;-) ;-) 2009/7/16 <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info<ashok%2Bskunkworks@parliaments.info>
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
Maybe Nasa actually sent chimps and not humans -- thats why Neil Armstrong hasnt spoken since, he is actually a chimp in a man's body, and Edwin Aldrin is in reality a chihuahua. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon? To do what? Collect moon rocks? It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions. Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language. So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded. All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle. Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race.... A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you] What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ? I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ? Its a valid question when you think about it...
@Obayi, please, please allow people to be skeptical. If Newton had eaten the apple unquestioningly-I know I'd have done that - he probably would not have made the discoveries he did. We all know there are conspiracies and coverups everywhere. All we are asking is: could the trip to the moon be one of them? To me, that's fascinating. On 7/16/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon?
To do what? Collect moon rocks?
It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions.
Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language.
So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded.
All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle.
Steve Obbayi,
_____
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon
But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race....
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ?
I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ?
Its a valid question when you think about it...
maybe you are not who you think(know) you are. ever thought about it. But probably what you call thinking is not thinking at all.... On 7/16/09, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Obayi, please, please allow people to be skeptical. If Newton had eaten the apple unquestioningly-I know I'd have done that - he probably would not have made the discoveries he did.
We all know there are conspiracies and coverups everywhere. All we are asking is: could the trip to the moon be one of them?
To me, that's fascinating.
On 7/16/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon?
To do what? Collect moon rocks?
It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions.
Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language.
So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded.
All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle.
Steve Obbayi,
_____
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon
But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race....
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ?
I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ?
Its a valid question when you think about it...
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I believe in an interview Gandhi was asked what he thought about western civilization. He responded with " I think it Is a good idea" Rahim. On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, James Mutuku <listmutuku@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe you are not who you think(know) you are. ever thought about it. But probably what you call thinking is not thinking at all....
On 7/16/09, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Obayi, please, please allow people to be skeptical. If Newton had eaten the apple unquestioningly-I know I'd have done that - he probably would not have made the discoveries he did.
We all know there are conspiracies and coverups everywhere. All we are asking is: could the trip to the moon be one of them?
To me, that's fascinating.
On 7/16/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon?
To do what? Collect moon rocks?
It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions.
Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language.
So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded.
All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle.
Steve Obbayi,
_____
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon
But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race....
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ?
I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ?
Its a valid question when you think about it...
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Yesternight NASA (through CNN) did a very good job of shooting down the claims that Apollo was staged. hmmm..... Still remains a puzzle.. I think it comes down to who you want to believe.. Just sad to realize that all those primary school teachings (on Neil being the first on the moon) *may* have been a lie.. -Alex On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Rahim Kara <rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
I believe in an interview Gandhi was asked what he thought about western civilization. He responded with " I think it Is a good idea"
Rahim.
On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, James Mutuku <listmutuku@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe you are not who you think(know) you are. ever thought about it.
But probably what you call thinking is not thinking at all....
On 7/16/09, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Obayi, please, please allow people to be skeptical. If Newton had eaten the apple unquestioningly-I know I'd have done that - he probably would not have made the discoveries he did.
We all know there are conspiracies and coverups everywhere. All we are asking is: could the trip to the moon be one of them?
To me, that's fascinating.
On 7/16/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon?
To do what? Collect moon rocks?
It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions.
Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language.
So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded.
All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle.
Steve Obbayi,
_____
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon
But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race....
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ?
I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ?
Its a valid question when you think about it...
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Previously, on Apollo 17.... <anyway, lets close this debate - the only person to lately learn of some truths is President Obama, and I dont think he will share [?]>
Hi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_conspiracy_theories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings Remember chicken little? On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Alex Wanjohi <wanjohialex@gmail.com>wrote:
Yesternight NASA (through CNN) did a very good job of shooting down the claims that Apollo was staged. hmmm..... Still remains a puzzle.. I think it comes down to who you want to believe..
Just sad to realize that all those primary school teachings (on Neil being the first on the moon) *may* have been a lie..
-Alex
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Rahim Kara <rahim@applecentre.co.ke>wrote:
I believe in an interview Gandhi was asked what he thought about western civilization. He responded with " I think it Is a good idea"
Rahim.
On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, James Mutuku <listmutuku@gmail.com> wrote:
maybe you are not who you think(know) you are. ever thought about it.
But probably what you call thinking is not thinking at all....
On 7/16/09, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
@Obayi, please, please allow people to be skeptical. If Newton had eaten the apple unquestioningly-I know I'd have done that - he probably would not have made the discoveries he did.
We all know there are conspiracies and coverups everywhere. All we are asking is: could the trip to the moon be one of them?
To me, that's fascinating.
On 7/16/09, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The cost of going to the moon is prohibitive. its one of the issues on debate whether american tax payers will be able to pay for and/or will be required to pay for another moon trip. Because think about it. why should USA spend billions of dollars on a single trip to go to the moon?
To do what? Collect moon rocks?
It doesnt make sense to keep going to the moon to collect the same rock samples. there is nothing new on the moon to justify repeated trips. Thats what sampling is all about. pick samples from different areas and analyse them. Most of the rocks on the moon are simply the same ones you get here on earth with a few exceptions. So it doesnt make good Financial sense to have continued moon missions.
Even Space shuttle missions are basically maintenanace missions of existing satelites, the space station and stuff like the hubble telescope & whatever else is up there. Now about solar radiation, the same radiation thats on the moon is the same radiation they are exposed to when doing space walks. As i write this the space shuttle endeavor is in space and they are putting up an external platform so they are gonna do quite a number of space walks. Dont think since it was the 60s they were not brilliant. That error had brilliant minds. These guys were turned into geniuses by the NAZIs and like i mentioned before Radiotion has been arounf for a loooooong time... Ask the japanese of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Scientists of the early days did th same computations we do today. Math is Math. Those people coded in machine language. Show me a programmer today who codes using machine language... and am not talking about Assembly Language.
So like i said you need to stop trying to prove that these guys didnt do all the stuff they did because it seems you really dont know much about the road map of the space program. A moon visit stopped being financially viable since the 70's The only interest in the moon would now be to either build a space station there (which wont happen soon) or to do space tourism. So unfortunately the answer to your moon visit dilema simply boils down to lack of Money. Remeber Nasa is tax payer funded.
All in all NASA has some serious Kick butt minds working for them you just need to take a trip down to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and see the stuff they will let you handle.
Steve Obbayi,
_____
From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of ndungu stephen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:42 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Going to the moon
But Nasa was not selling us beliefs - they were trying to sell 'scientific facts' to the human race....
A question - seeing as the moon has no atmosphere - can a human being on first attempt in the 60s be able to survive the lately detected solar radiation ? [no chimps sent prior, mind you]
What guarantee do we have that one wont be instantly microwaved and cooked in those fancy silver suits ?
I like NASA, they have provided all these medical and technological break throughs - But how come they are not attempting a moon landing nowadays ?
Its a valid question when you think about it...
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Why would NASA seek to go to the moon when they have been there before? New frontiers sounds more appealing. I may be wrong but I thought Richard Branson of 'losing my virginity' fame does flights to the moon? On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Michael Omondi <michaelomondi@gmail.com>wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31966131/ns/technology_and_science-space/
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