To be fair, I normally loose lots of tricks when i spend sometimes in other frameworks or languages.I also need some times and coding before i get used to some tricks in new languages or environments.IT happens even in sports,coordination of mind and body would take some practices. I normally lough when I see these kind of job ads.Most of the time experience goes against creativity ,if someone is not careful. I think serious employer should separate concerns for IOS/Android they are two different camps/religions ,but recruiters keep of adding up things as if they are collecting vocabularies. Naive programmers would attempt everything and would finally be good in nothing.Who would keep up with version releases, bug fixing ..political fights btn the apple/google etc.? -- Regards, Nicholas Peter.* Kinpro Computers.* *Box:*16954,Arusha. *Tel :*+255 732 972287. *Mobile**:* +255 754 914652 *Email: *kinprocomputers@gmail.com =============================================== Products: Software systems for :School management, Point of Sale, ..... On 13 August 2015 at 15:56, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
OT: Is it just me or I'd think a person 'good' in all those technologies is an expert of none of them? Sorry to hijack your post. :)
Regards, John K.
On 13 August 2015 at 12:15, Aladin Khedira via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Got this here below off Shikala Mwachi's Facebook Post:
Hello People, I am urgently seeking 2 experienced mobile app developers with the following profile:
- Deep knowledge and experience with iOS and Android native Apps development
- Experience with mobile application development environments
- Good understanding of web technologies (HTML, CSS, JQuery, Ajax and PHP)
- Knowledge of databases (MySql)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in Objective-C (IOS Apps)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in JAVA (Android Apps)
The successful candidates will initially start as project staff in Kenya and if they prove competent, later work from the clients head office in Germany.
Please share widely. Interested parties can email me at paul@isys.co.ke
@Nicholas Peters, its not about recruiters *collecting vocabularies*, its knowing what they want and what they can get. Such multi-skilled developers do exist right here on this beautiful country of ours. A lot more exist on the other side of the ocean. And people are different, people learn faster than others, or our brains are setup differently, or we have different levels of self motivation and focus. Whatever it is, it is possible to master iOS, Android and PHP. Often, we developers assume that our personal limitations exist for everyone. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be fair, I normally loose lots of tricks when i spend sometimes in other frameworks or languages.I also need some times and coding before i get used to some tricks in new languages or environments.IT happens even in sports,coordination of mind and body would take some practices.
I normally lough when I see these kind of job ads.Most of the time experience goes against creativity ,if someone is not careful.
I think serious employer should separate concerns for IOS/Android they are two different camps/religions ,but recruiters keep of adding up things as if they are collecting vocabularies. Naive programmers would attempt everything and would finally be good in nothing.Who would keep up with version releases, bug fixing ..political fights btn the apple/google etc.? --
Regards, Nicholas Peter.* Kinpro Computers.* *Box:*16954,Arusha. *Tel :*+255 732 972287. *Mobile**:* +255 754 914652 *Email: *kinprocomputers@gmail.com =============================================== Products: Software systems for :School management, Point of Sale,
..... On 13 August 2015 at 15:56, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
OT: Is it just me or I'd think a person 'good' in all those technologies is an expert of none of them? Sorry to hijack your post. :)
Regards, John K.
On 13 August 2015 at 12:15, Aladin Khedira via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Got this here below off Shikala Mwachi's Facebook Post:
Hello People, I am urgently seeking 2 experienced mobile app developers with the following profile:
- Deep knowledge and experience with iOS and Android native Apps development
- Experience with mobile application development environments
- Good understanding of web technologies (HTML, CSS, JQuery, Ajax and PHP)
- Knowledge of databases (MySql)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in Objective-C (IOS Apps)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in JAVA (Android Apps)
The successful candidates will initially start as project staff in Kenya and if they prove competent, later work from the clients head office in Germany.
Please share widely. Interested parties can email me at paul@isys.co.ke
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http://norvig.com/21-days.html It's possible to get a developer who is good in many languages. Even here in Kenya we have many. It's very difficult to get a *programmer* who is good in multiple languages. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Nicholas Peters, its not about recruiters *collecting vocabularies*, its knowing what they want and what they can get.
Such multi-skilled developers do exist right here on this beautiful country of ours. A lot more exist on the other side of the ocean.
And people are different, people learn faster than others, or our brains are setup differently, or we have different levels of self motivation and focus. Whatever it is, it is possible to master iOS, Android and PHP.
Often, we developers assume that our personal limitations exist for everyone.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be fair, I normally loose lots of tricks when i spend sometimes in other frameworks or languages.I also need some times and coding before i get used to some tricks in new languages or environments.IT happens even in sports,coordination of mind and body would take some practices.
I normally lough when I see these kind of job ads.Most of the time experience goes against creativity ,if someone is not careful.
I think serious employer should separate concerns for IOS/Android they are two different camps/religions ,but recruiters keep of adding up things as if they are collecting vocabularies. Naive programmers would attempt everything and would finally be good in nothing.Who would keep up with version releases, bug fixing ..political fights btn the apple/google etc.? --
Regards, Nicholas Peter.* Kinpro Computers.* *Box:*16954,Arusha. *Tel :*+255 732 972287. *Mobile**:* +255 754 914652 *Email: *kinprocomputers@gmail.com =============================================== Products: Software systems for :School management, Point of Sale,
..... On 13 August 2015 at 15:56, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
OT: Is it just me or I'd think a person 'good' in all those technologies is an expert of none of them? Sorry to hijack your post. :)
Regards, John K.
On 13 August 2015 at 12:15, Aladin Khedira via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Got this here below off Shikala Mwachi's Facebook Post:
Hello People, I am urgently seeking 2 experienced mobile app developers with the following profile:
- Deep knowledge and experience with iOS and Android native Apps development
- Experience with mobile application development environments
- Good understanding of web technologies (HTML, CSS, JQuery, Ajax and PHP)
- Knowledge of databases (MySql)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in Objective-C (IOS Apps)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in JAVA (Android Apps)
The successful candidates will initially start as project staff in Kenya and if they prove competent, later work from the clients head office in Germany.
Please share widely. Interested parties can email me at paul@isys.co.ke
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I also used to think that the is 'the one' true coder that is a master in all the major languages but as I've grown older I've come to realise that this is not the matrix and that person does not exist. It takes years to truly master any platform, take any of those programmers and have them write a suitably complex app like say Wireshark on windows, linux, and mac in reasonable amount of time and I watch the excuses begin. In my experience, nobody is a master at everything, but please prove me wrong, I am ready to concede if you can show me Neo. Regards, John K. On 14 August 2015 at 10:07, Bwana Lawi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
http://norvig.com/21-days.html
It's possible to get a developer who is good in many languages. Even here in Kenya we have many. It's very difficult to get a *programmer* who is good in multiple languages.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Peter Karunyu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Nicholas Peters, its not about recruiters *collecting vocabularies*, its knowing what they want and what they can get.
Such multi-skilled developers do exist right here on this beautiful country of ours. A lot more exist on the other side of the ocean.
And people are different, people learn faster than others, or our brains are setup differently, or we have different levels of self motivation and focus. Whatever it is, it is possible to master iOS, Android and PHP.
Often, we developers assume that our personal limitations exist for everyone.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
To be fair, I normally loose lots of tricks when i spend sometimes in other frameworks or languages.I also need some times and coding before i get used to some tricks in new languages or environments.IT happens even in sports,coordination of mind and body would take some practices.
I normally lough when I see these kind of job ads.Most of the time experience goes against creativity ,if someone is not careful.
I think serious employer should separate concerns for IOS/Android they are two different camps/religions ,but recruiters keep of adding up things as if they are collecting vocabularies. Naive programmers would attempt everything and would finally be good in nothing.Who would keep up with version releases, bug fixing ..political fights btn the apple/google etc.? --
Regards, Nicholas Peter.* Kinpro Computers.* *Box:*16954,Arusha. *Tel :*+255 732 972287. *Mobile**:* +255 754 914652 *Email: *kinprocomputers@gmail.com =============================================== Products: Software systems for :School management, Point of Sale,
..... On 13 August 2015 at 15:56, John K. via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
OT: Is it just me or I'd think a person 'good' in all those technologies is an expert of none of them? Sorry to hijack your post. :)
Regards, John K.
On 13 August 2015 at 12:15, Aladin Khedira via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Got this here below off Shikala Mwachi's Facebook Post:
Hello People, I am urgently seeking 2 experienced mobile app developers with the following profile:
- Deep knowledge and experience with iOS and Android native Apps development
- Experience with mobile application development environments
- Good understanding of web technologies (HTML, CSS, JQuery, Ajax and PHP)
- Knowledge of databases (MySql)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in Objective-C (IOS Apps)
- Very good knowledge / programming skills in JAVA (Android Apps)
The successful candidates will initially start as project staff in Kenya and if they prove competent, later work from the clients head office in Germany.
Please share widely. Interested parties can email me at paul@isys.co.ke
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