Kenyatta Hospital is ISO 9000
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.? The place is the mess of the messes
Out of curiosity why is KNH being certified wrong? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
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@Brian There is nothing wrong with it being certified as long as they meet the standards. I think the point Joseph is trying to make is that they are below the standards and thus should not be certified. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Out of curiosity why is KNH being certified wrong?
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
Which family of ISO 9000 is that? If it is ISO 9001:2008 (perhaps) then the following description applies: Why an organization should implement ISO 9001:2008 Without satisfied customers, an organization is in peril! To keep customers satisfied, the organization needs to meet their requirements. The ISO 9001:2008 standard provides a *tried and tested framework *for taking *a systematic approach* to managing the organization's processes so that they consistently turn out product that satisfies customers' expectations. Now, if this is what KNH is certified for, then as Mblayo says, KNH is wrongly certified. I am not surprised though, that most organizations are going for ISO certification, even the irrelevent one. It's what is also referred to as "concurrence". Please be specific about the ISO standard KNH have certified for. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
what a rip off On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
Which family of ISO 9000 is that? If it is ISO 9001:2008 (perhaps) then the following description applies:
Why an organization should implement ISO 9001:2008
Without satisfied customers, an organization is in peril! To keep customers satisfied, the organization needs to meet their requirements. The ISO 9001:2008 standard provides a *tried and tested framework *for taking *a systematic approach* to managing the organization's processes so that they consistently turn out product that satisfies customers' expectations.
Now, if this is what KNH is certified for, then as Mblayo says, KNH is wrongly certified. I am not surprised though, that most organizations are going for ISO certification, even the irrelevent one. It's what is also referred to as "concurrence".
Please be specific about the ISO standard KNH have certified for.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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If you or a relative or a friend have used the public services at KNH then you would be cracking your ribs laughing at such a certification! Moses. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
Which family of ISO 9000 is that? If it is ISO 9001:2008 (perhaps) then the following description applies:
Why an organization should implement ISO 9001:2008
Without satisfied customers, an organization is in peril! To keep customers satisfied, the organization needs to meet their requirements. The ISO 9001:2008 standard provides a *tried and tested framework *for taking *a systematic approach* to managing the organization's processes so that they consistently turn out product that satisfies customers' expectations.
Now, if this is what KNH is certified for, then as Mblayo says, KNH is wrongly certified. I am not surprised though, that most organizations are going for ISO certification, even the irrelevent one. It's what is also referred to as "concurrence".
Please be specific about the ISO standard KNH have certified for.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Curiosly? do organisations pay to be ISO CERtified? if so then it might be a cash cow to fleece taxpayers money... On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
If you or a relative or a friend have used the public services at KNH then you would be cracking your ribs laughing at such a certification!
Moses.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
Which family of ISO 9000 is that? If it is ISO 9001:2008 (perhaps) then the following description applies:
Why an organization should implement ISO 9001:2008
Without satisfied customers, an organization is in peril! To keep customers satisfied, the organization needs to meet their requirements. The ISO 9001:2008 standard provides a *tried and tested framework *for taking *a systematic approach* to managing the organization's processes so that they consistently turn out product that satisfies customers' expectations.
Now, if this is what KNH is certified for, then as Mblayo says, KNH is wrongly certified. I am not surprised though, that most organizations are going for ISO certification, even the irrelevent one. It's what is also referred to as "concurrence".
Please be specific about the ISO standard KNH have certified for.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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Consultants are paid to provide training on the implementation and management of the QMS - Quality Management System. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:39, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
Curiosly? do organisations pay to be ISO CERtified? if so then it might be a cash cow to fleece taxpayers money...
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
If you or a relative or a friend have used the public services at KNH then you would be cracking your ribs laughing at such a certification!
Moses.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:14, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>wrote:
I was wondering what qualifies an institution to achieve the ISO 9000 certification, because if Kenyatta Hospital is certified , then the certification is a sham, does the hospital have KEBS mark of quality.?
The place is the mess of the messes
Which family of ISO 9000 is that? If it is ISO 9001:2008 (perhaps) then the following description applies:
Why an organization should implement ISO 9001:2008
Without satisfied customers, an organization is in peril! To keep customers satisfied, the organization needs to meet their requirements. The ISO 9001:2008 standard provides a *tried and tested framework *for taking *a systematic approach* to managing the organization's processes so that they consistently turn out product that satisfies customers' expectations.
Now, if this is what KNH is certified for, then as Mblayo says, KNH is wrongly certified. I am not surprised though, that most organizations are going for ISO certification, even the irrelevent one. It's what is also referred to as "concurrence".
Please be specific about the ISO standard KNH have certified for.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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