Did safaricom patent Mpesa? Coz Obopay seems like a copy and paste of Mpesa only focusing on a much larger scale. on this page you find the following description. The part in red for me seems fishy, like she is taking the credit for a service that is already working perfectly here?Something doesnt add up. Maoni? in 2005, Carol Realini founded Obopay to meet the nascent need for an industry leader in mobile payments. Today, Obopay — through partnerships with financial institutions such as Citi and MasterCard and mobile carriers — is using mobile phones to deliver financial services that empower people’s life and work. Carol founded Obopay after traveling in Africa and recognizing that while mobile phones were ubiquitous, many people didn’t have access to even the most basic banking services. Recognizing the need and opportunity in both industrialized and developing nations, Carol designed Obopay’s business model to promote social and economic development throughout the world, by providing mobile savings, money transfer, and payments to people everywhere. -- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
On 12/11/2009, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Did safaricom patent Mpesa? Coz Obopay seems like a copy and paste of Mpesa only focusing on a much larger scale.
on this page
you find the following description. The part in red for me seems fishy, like she is taking the credit for a service that is already working perfectly here?Something doesnt add up. Maoni?
in 2005, Carol Realini founded Obopay to meet the nascent need for an industry leader in mobile payments. Today, Obopay — through partnerships with financial institutions such as Citi and MasterCard and mobile carriers — is using mobile phones to deliver financial services that empower people’s life and work.
Carol founded Obopay after traveling in Africa and recognizing that while mobile phones were ubiquitous, many people didn’t have access to even the most basic banking services. Recognizing the need and opportunity in both industrialized and developing nations, Carol designed Obopay’s business model to promote social and economic development throughout the world, by providing mobile savings, money transfer, and payments to people everywhere.
-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
Let MJ tell us! If Carol came to Africa and saw the need to develop Obopay, then she must have come to Kenya and saw what M-Pesa was doing and perfected on it. Her's is quiet better than M-Pesa since she has linked up with Master Card, something that we lack here. Generally, this could be copycat -- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://dawn-in-kenya.blogspot.com https://smiley2.wordpress.com
Can anyone really patent the idea of mobile payments/wallets? The algorithms used, maybe but not the idea. If you continue reading you'll see obopay was launched in 2005. Safaricom OTH launched mpesa in march 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa) so i doubt obopay copied them. As to the question of who copied whom (generally speaking) - does it really matter, so long as you can pick up an idea extend it to something better? I mean if today I could come up with a similar payment solution but that works better than mpesa should i not do it just because safaricom did it first? -Billy 2009/11/12 Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
On 12/11/2009, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
Did safaricom patent Mpesa? Coz Obopay seems like a copy and paste of Mpesa only focusing on a much larger scale.
on this page
you find the following description. The part in red for me seems fishy, like she is taking the credit for a service that is already working perfectly here?Something doesnt add up. Maoni?
in 2005, Carol Realini founded Obopay to meet the nascent need for an industry leader in mobile payments. Today, Obopay — through partnerships with financial institutions such as Citi and MasterCard and mobile carriers — is using mobile phones to deliver financial services that empower people’s life and work.
Carol founded Obopay after traveling in Africa and recognizing that while mobile phones were ubiquitous, many people didn’t have access to even the most basic banking services. Recognizing the need and opportunity in both industrialized and developing nations, Carol designed Obopay’s business model to promote social and economic development throughout the world, by providing mobile savings, money transfer, and payments to people everywhere.
-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
Let MJ tell us!
If Carol came to Africa and saw the need to develop Obopay, then she must have come to Kenya and saw what M-Pesa was doing and perfected on it. Her's is quiet better than M-Pesa since she has linked up with Master Card, something that we lack here.
Generally, this could be copycat -- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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And what is wrong with doing that if there was no patent. And what stops Saf from doing that before Obo pay launches -- with Regards: Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2 Sterotyping: Abednego, tell the tribe by the name; visit the blog : http://gramware.blogspot.com
Clearly we have no inventors/innovators in Kenya(or laws to protect them?). No wonder Patent Knowledge(and a respect for intellectual capital) doesn't resonate with us . I remember a thread where people are afraid of sharing info especially with big companies because they will run with it. If patenting was respected, such fears would be quelled coz the first to patent would get the benefit of his ideas. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
And what is wrong with doing that if there was no patent. And what stops Saf from doing that before Obo pay launches
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-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
Joram, mobile phone payment platforms were conceptualized and implemented long before MPesa, so the issue of patents for MPesa cannot arise On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Clearly we have no inventors/innovators in Kenya(or laws to protect them?). No wonder Patent Knowledge(and a respect for intellectual capital) doesn't resonate with us . I remember a thread where people are afraid of sharing info especially with big companies because they will run with it. If patenting was respected, such fears would be quelled coz the first to patent would get the benefit of his ideas.
What then is Patentable?(if that word exists) I recall a lawsuit between RIM (blackberry makers) and some random guys who patented mobile email technology and sat on it. They received hefty payments Nokia is suing Apple for using patented technology on their Iphone... Help me understand On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram, mobile phone payment platforms were conceptualized and implemented long before MPesa, so the issue of patents for MPesa cannot arise
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Clearly we have no inventors/innovators in Kenya(or laws to protect them?). No wonder Patent Knowledge(and a respect for intellectual capital) doesn't resonate with us . I remember a thread where people are afraid of sharing info especially with big companies because they will run with it. If patenting was respected, such fears would be quelled coz the first to patent would get the benefit of his ideas.
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-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
@Joram, seriously! na Zap... believe me if Vodacom suspected patent infringements. they wouldn't need you to point that out
... and what does NOKIA has to say? http://www.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idUSLC4956592009111... On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
@Joram, seriously! na Zap... believe me if Vodacom suspected patent infringements. they wouldn't need you to point that out
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patents!.. patents.... I wonder how you can patent numbers or transactions, this is all about. addition,division,subtraction, multiplication this is the core logic in mpesa so you can have your own mobile money and call it M-CASH, you can patent M-CASH and the logo but the logic I still wonder how. By the way who came first the egg or the chicken av a look at this www.tagattitude.fr/en<http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=BbGNkCVoBS7nmBMTh-AbO_KDyAemWxh3Rr5ORB8CNtwGA8QQQARgBIIaPgAIoCTgAUJDR0M0BYMMGoAHTjcn6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gEnaHR0cDovL21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS9VUjFISFhsYUlFODFkNUFzgAIBqQIeVqlx1xi5PsgC3_ndDKgDAegD1ALoAxPoA8cE9QMCAACE&num=1&sig=AGiWqtxLJEI3tjk6lqsNpBbsj7pjhnlTXA&adurl=http://www.tagattitude.fr/en> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Did safaricom patent Mpesa? Coz Obopay seems like a copy and paste of Mpesa only focusing on a much larger scale.
on this page
you find the following description. The part in red for me seems fishy, like she is taking the credit for a service that is already working perfectly here?Something doesnt add up. Maoni?
in 2005, Carol Realini founded Obopay to meet the nascent need for an industry leader in mobile payments. Today, Obopay — through partnerships with financial institutions such as Citi and MasterCard and mobile carriers — is using mobile phones to deliver financial services that empower people’s life and work.
Carol founded Obopay after traveling in Africa and recognizing that while mobile phones were ubiquitous, many people didn’t have access to even the most basic banking services. Recognizing the need and opportunity in both industrialized and developing nations, Carol designed Obopay’s business model to promote social and economic development throughout the world, by providing mobile savings, money transfer, and payments to people everywhere.
-- Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© -------------------------------------------------------------------- God is not an excuse for lack of discipline -------------------------------------------------------------------- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us.There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates others.
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