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In line with good citizenry I gave input into the budget making process turns out I was signed up to the Uhuru Kenyatta mailing list. (sic) I have no intention of staying connected to his list, being part of it or voting for him ... #justsaying Hope he's on skunks. Even more infuriating, why did he use a US based mailing list solution? nkest Feel rather conned Kiania -----Original Message----- From: Uhuru Kenyatta [mailto:uhuru=uhuru.co.ke@mail66.us2.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of Uhuru Kenyatta Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:31 AM To: David Kiania Subject: Thank you for Participating in the Budget Making Process Dear David It is with great pleasure that I write to you to thank you for having taken time to give in your suggestions on the 2011/2012 budget. I am not only honoured, but also humbled by your important contributions. This in itself is a great achievement for Kenya. As we finalize the budget here at treasury, I felt that it is important for me to update you on the progress that we have made so far. We received close to 3,000 submissions through social media and the online form that you filled. In addition to these, many others took time to drop letters at my office, write emails, tweet and blog about their ideas for the budget. I personally went through each one of these submissions and I must say that I was quite impressed not only by the quality of these submissions but also by the patriotic passion with which Kenyans from all walks of life responded to my request and chose to play their part in this process. My officers sifted through these budget proposals as well and I'm glad to inform you that quite a number of the submissions have been taken into consideration and will form part of the 2011/2012 budget. In as much as we may not be able to incorporate all the suggestions, we see this as the beginning of a new form of public engagement and inclusiveness as envisioned in our new constitution. I truly appreciate each and every contribution that was brought forward and it is my humble prayer that you and all Kenyans shall continue to take similar opportunities to have your voices heard. Let us continue to work together in the same spirit for the benefit this great nation. God bless you and God bless Kenya. Sincerely, Uhuru M. Kenyatta ============================================== You are receiving this email because you were involved in the budget making process. Unsubscribe david.kiania@________.com from this list: http://uhuru.us2.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=d96cee9714753de6329c46af9&id=... Our mailing address is: Uhuru Kenyatta 30007 Nairobi 00100 Forward this email to a friend: http://us2.forward-to-friend.com/forward?u=d96cee9714753de6329c46af9&id=103c... -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] "The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in war." - Navy SEAL INSTRUCTOR
isnt it just a budget process making mailing list? says so here You are receiving this email because you were involved in the budget making process. ama you got others? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In line with good citizenry I gave input into the budget making process turns out I was signed up to the Uhuru Kenyatta mailing list. (sic)
I have no intention of staying connected to his list, being part of it or voting for him ... #justsaying Hope he's on skunks.
Even more infuriating, why did he use a US based mailing list solution? nkest Feel rather conned
Kiania
-----Original Message----- From: Uhuru Kenyatta [mailto:uhuru=uhuru.co.ke@mail66.us2.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of Uhuru Kenyatta Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:31 AM To: David Kiania Subject: Thank you for Participating in the Budget Making Process
Dear David
It is with great pleasure that I write to you to thank you for having taken time to give in your suggestions on the 2011/2012 budget. I am not only honoured, but also humbled by your important contributions. This in itself is a great achievement for Kenya.
As we finalize the budget here at treasury, I felt that it is important for me to update you on the progress that we have made so far. We received close to 3,000 submissions through social media and the online form that you filled. In addition to these, many others took time to drop letters at my office, write emails, tweet and blog about their ideas for the budget. I personally went through each one of these submissions and I must say that I was quite impressed not only by the quality of these submissions but also by the patriotic passion with which Kenyans from all walks of life responded to my request and chose to play their part in this process. My officers sifted through these budget proposals as well and I'm glad to inform you that quite a number of the submissions have been taken into consideration and will form part of the 2011/2012 budget. In as much as we may not be able to incorporate all the suggestions, we see this as the beginning of a new form of public engagement and inclusiveness as envisioned in our new constitution.
I truly appreciate each and every contribution that was brought forward and it is my humble prayer that you and all Kenyans shall continue to take similar opportunities to have your voices heard. Let us continue to work together in the same spirit for the benefit this great nation. God bless you and God bless Kenya.
Sincerely,
Uhuru M. Kenyatta
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Joram, After unsubscribing this is what I got>> ------ We have removed your email address from our list. We're sorry to see you go. Was this a mistake? Did you forward your email to a friend, and they accidentally clicked the unsubscribe link? If this was a mistake, you can re-subscribe at: Subscribe For questions or comments, please contact us at: uhuru@uhuru.co.ke *(Checkout where this link goes)* On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
isnt it just a budget process making mailing list? says so here You are receiving this email because you were involved in the budget making process.
ama you got others? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In line with good citizenry I gave input into the budget making process turns out I was signed up to the Uhuru Kenyatta mailing list. (sic)
I have no intention of staying connected to his list, being part of it or voting for him ... #justsaying Hope he's on skunks.
Even more infuriating, why did he use a US based mailing list solution? nkest Feel rather conned
Kiania
-----Original Message----- From: Uhuru Kenyatta [mailto:uhuru=uhuru.co.ke@mail66.us2.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of Uhuru Kenyatta Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:31 AM To: David Kiania Subject: Thank you for Participating in the Budget Making Process
Dear David
It is with great pleasure that I write to you to thank you for having taken time to give in your suggestions on the 2011/2012 budget. I am not only honoured, but also humbled by your important contributions. This in itself is a great achievement for Kenya.
As we finalize the budget here at treasury, I felt that it is important for me to update you on the progress that we have made so far. We received close to 3,000 submissions through social media and the online form that you filled. In addition to these, many others took time to drop letters at my office, write emails, tweet and blog about their ideas for the budget. I personally went through each one of these submissions and I must say that I was quite impressed not only by the quality of these submissions but also by the patriotic passion with which Kenyans from all walks of life responded to my request and chose to play their part in this process. My officers sifted through these budget proposals as well and I'm glad to inform you that quite a number of the submissions have been taken into consideration and will form part of the 2011/2012 budget. In as much as we may not be able to incorporate all the suggestions, we see this as the beginning of a new form of public engagement and inclusiveness as envisioned in our new constitution.
I truly appreciate each and every contribution that was brought forward and it is my humble prayer that you and all Kenyans shall continue to take similar opportunities to have your voices heard. Let us continue to work together in the same spirit for the benefit this great nation. God bless you and God bless Kenya.
Sincerely,
Uhuru M. Kenyatta
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Hi daviid, Are there any local mailing list solutions? On 6/2/11, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
isnt it just a budget process making mailing list? says so here
You are receiving this email because you were involved in the budget making process.
ama you got others?
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
In line with good citizenry I gave input into the budget making process turns out I was signed up to the Uhuru Kenyatta mailing list. (sic)
I have no intention of staying connected to his list, being part of it or voting for him ... #justsaying Hope he's on skunks.
Even more infuriating, why did he use a US based mailing list solution? nkest Feel rather conned
Kiania
-----Original Message----- From: Uhuru Kenyatta [mailto:uhuru=uhuru.co.ke@mail66.us2.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of Uhuru Kenyatta Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:31 AM To: David Kiania Subject: Thank you for Participating in the Budget Making Process
Dear David
It is with great pleasure that I write to you to thank you for having taken time to give in your suggestions on the 2011/2012 budget. I am not only honoured, but also humbled by your important contributions. This in itself is a great achievement for Kenya.
As we finalize the budget here at treasury, I felt that it is important for me to update you on the progress that we have made so far. We received close to 3,000 submissions through social media and the online form that you filled. In addition to these, many others took time to drop letters at my office, write emails, tweet and blog about their ideas for the budget. I personally went through each one of these submissions and I must say that I was quite impressed not only by the quality of these submissions but also by the patriotic passion with which Kenyans from all walks of life responded to my request and chose to play their part in this process. My officers sifted through these budget proposals as well and I'm glad to inform you that quite a number of the submissions have been taken into consideration and will form part of the 2011/2012 budget. In as much as we may not be able to incorporate all the suggestions, we see this as the beginning of a new form of public engagement and inclusiveness as envisioned in our new constitution.
I truly appreciate each and every contribution that was brought forward and it is my humble prayer that you and all Kenyans shall continue to take similar opportunities to have your voices heard. Let us continue to work together in the same spirit for the benefit this great nation. God bless you and God bless Kenya.
Sincerely,
Uhuru M. Kenyatta
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Hi @James, look around you, who is going to develop a mailing list solution ( code wise ) . With whose money? In a "tano tano....bei ya mwananchi" quick buck economy, do you think people will develop or be far more interested in becoming brokers of such solutions? Even the best coders will look for a hosted solution somewhere and resell as a product, bottomline make that quick sale and pay off the day's expenses. That is why you find me complaining about the total mess the tech sector. So lets say we were to create a mass mailer platform system, where is the incubator or the catalyst? ( please leave out the misguided propoganda about VCs, because no VC is going to invest or finance such ). Having written the above, the budget for a presidental campaign is usually very large, and therefore part of it would have been used to invite incubators for the above system to be used in its campaign. Top slogan used : We build it in Kenya, we can do more in the future. Asante. :-) On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Mutuku <listmutuku@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi daviid,
Are there any local mailing list solutions?
I'm just wondering, how did Linus Torvalds go about inventing the best thing since sliced bread? At the iHUB? With a VC behind him? IMHO, it all boils down to do you want it bad enough??? All you need is a forum to tap into other genius minds.... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi @James, look around you, who is going to develop a mailing list solution ( code wise ) . With whose money? In a "tano tano....bei ya mwananchi" quick buck economy, do you think people will develop or be far more interested in becoming brokers of such solutions? Even the best coders will look for a hosted solution somewhere and resell as a product, bottomline make that quick sale and pay off the day's expenses. That is why you find me complaining about the total mess the tech sector.
So lets say we were to create a mass mailer platform system, where is the incubator or the catalyst? ( please leave out the misguided propoganda about VCs, because no VC is going to invest or finance such ).
Having written the above, the budget for a presidental campaign is usually very large, and therefore part of it would have been used to invite incubators for the above system to be used in its campaign. Top slogan used : We build it in Kenya, we can do more in the future.
Asante. :-)
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Mutuku <listmutuku@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi daviid,
Are there any local mailing list solutions?
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IMO, the iHub role in development of the ICT sector is by proving a place for developers to interact and share.
@John Doe, please don't confuse passion and commerce. Did you know the story behind Linus = culture of the early 1990's, anti-commercialism, driven by the urge to stop the $$$ effects of commercial software industry. Infact, I believe at that time anti-commercialism was the basis of Open Source. Many in that era felt like this, and came together. Such still exist, but now you find them rioting during G8 summits etc, Green Peace, Stop the Whaling in japanese waters etc. Would Linus have wriiten a mass mailing list platform, I hardly think so. Lets try a find a good example, and maybe we can agree. Asante. :-) On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just wondering, how did Linus Torvalds go about inventing the best thing since sliced bread? At the iHUB? With a VC behind him?
IMHO, it all boils down to do you want it bad enough??? All you need is a forum to tap into other genius minds....
My point is, he didn't wait to form an organisation charged with coding a new OS,or a venture capitalist or regulation. He just started where he was with what he had...the rest as they say is history. Passion and commerce are actually tied together for most succesful internet businesses.... Facebook; just a bunch of campus kids sharing social info (their passion) Youtube; just a bunch of campus kids sharing videos (their passion) Linux; Just a coder trying to get a more stable OS for his own purposes (gaming?). These guys cared enough about something to try and fix it. The commerce aspect came later and they mostly had to hire the finance types to help them monetise something they were already doing..... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:18 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@John Doe, please don't confuse passion and commerce. Did you know the story behind Linus = culture of the early 1990's, anti-commercialism, driven by the urge to stop the $$$ effects of commercial software industry. Infact, I believe at that time anti-commercialism was the basis of Open Source. Many in that era felt like this, and came together. Such still exist, but now you find them rioting during G8 summits etc, Green Peace, Stop the Whaling in japanese waters etc. Would Linus have wriiten a mass mailing list platform, I hardly think so.
Lets try a find a good example, and maybe we can agree.
Asante. :-)
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just wondering, how did Linus Torvalds go about inventing the best thing since sliced bread? At the iHUB? With a VC behind him?
IMHO, it all boils down to do you want it bad enough??? All you need is a forum to tap into other genius minds....
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@ Dennis, I'm not attacking the iHub. I believe in such fora. I'm just saying no one should fail to do something they believe in because they couldn't get a seat at the iHub or a VC. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
My point is, he didn't wait to form an organisation charged with coding a new OS,or a venture capitalist or regulation. He just started where he was with what he had...the rest as they say is history.
Passion and commerce are actually tied together for most succesful internet businesses....
Facebook; just a bunch of campus kids sharing social info (their passion) Youtube; just a bunch of campus kids sharing videos (their passion) Linux; Just a coder trying to get a more stable OS for his own purposes (gaming?).
These guys cared enough about something to try and fix it. The commerce aspect came later and they mostly had to hire the finance types to help them monetise something they were already doing.....
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:18 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@John Doe, please don't confuse passion and commerce. Did you know the story behind Linus = culture of the early 1990's, anti-commercialism, driven by the urge to stop the $$$ effects of commercial software industry. Infact, I believe at that time anti-commercialism was the basis of Open Source. Many in that era felt like this, and came together. Such still exist, but now you find them rioting during G8 summits etc, Green Peace, Stop the Whaling in japanese waters etc. Would Linus have wriiten a mass mailing list platform, I hardly think so.
Lets try a find a good example, and maybe we can agree.
Asante. :-)
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just wondering, how did Linus Torvalds go about inventing the best thing since sliced bread? At the iHUB? With a VC behind him?
IMHO, it all boils down to do you want it bad enough??? All you need is a forum to tap into other genius minds....
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@JohnDoe, Youtube startup capital = 1million USD which was raised to get the project going. Not sure about the others. Finance is the key, are you aware of how many patents Facebook "kids"hold? Check it out. Exactly my point, if we can build kenyan high tech companies and hold patents, the grand idea of the Tech Park and economic returns to ke will be large. The US/EU market is very different, there any successful product/solution is used by millions. In Africa, we are seriously handicapped, what is the internet penetration just in Kenya for one to successfully pull off a social media project? Nothing comparatively, the project will die within the first year. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
My point is, he didn't wait to form an organisation charged with coding a new OS,or a venture capitalist or regulation. He just started where he was with what he had...the rest as they say is history.
Passion and commerce are actually tied together for most succesful internet businesses....
Facebook; just a bunch of campus kids sharing social info (their passion) Youtube; just a bunch of campus kids sharing videos (their passion) Linux; Just a coder trying to get a more stable OS for his own purposes (gaming?).
These guys cared enough about something to try and fix it. The commerce aspect came later and they mostly had to hire the finance types to help them monetise something they were already doing.....
@ aki, But is Kenya's problem social media? We should use all the technology at our disposal to solve roblems that affect us directly. A good example is Wandongo solar powered lamps. IS this something we should patent and deploy enmasse in Africa? I believe yes. Its a no brainer to me. Do we need a Kenyan facebook? I believe no. Its a no brainer too. BTW, you should hang around the list more often. You catalyse interesting discussions.... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@JohnDoe, Youtube startup capital = 1million USD which was raised to get the project going. Not sure about the others. Finance is the key, are you aware of how many patents Facebook "kids"hold? Check it out. Exactly my point, if we can build kenyan high tech companies and hold patents, the grand idea of the Tech Park and economic returns to ke will be large. The US/EU market is very different, there any successful product/solution is used by millions. In Africa, we are seriously handicapped, what is the internet penetration just in Kenya for one to successfully pull off a social media project? Nothing comparatively, the project will die within the first year.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
My point is, he didn't wait to form an organisation charged with coding a new OS,or a venture capitalist or regulation. He just started where he was with what he had...the rest as they say is history.
Passion and commerce are actually tied together for most succesful internet businesses....
Facebook; just a bunch of campus kids sharing social info (their passion) Youtube; just a bunch of campus kids sharing videos (their passion) Linux; Just a coder trying to get a more stable OS for his own purposes (gaming?).
These guys cared enough about something to try and fix it. The commerce aspect came later and they mostly had to hire the finance types to help them monetise something they were already doing.....
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@ David; Pole for hijacking your thread :-) On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
@ aki,
But is Kenya's problem social media? We should use all the technology at our disposal to solve roblems that affect us directly.
A good example is Wandongo solar powered lamps. IS this something we should patent and deploy enmasse in Africa? I believe yes. Its a no brainer to me.
Do we need a Kenyan facebook? I believe no. Its a no brainer too.
BTW, you should hang around the list more often. You catalyse interesting discussions....
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@JohnDoe, Youtube startup capital = 1million USD which was raised to get the project going. Not sure about the others. Finance is the key, are you aware of how many patents Facebook "kids"hold? Check it out. Exactly my point, if we can build kenyan high tech companies and hold patents, the grand idea of the Tech Park and economic returns to ke will be large. The US/EU market is very different, there any successful product/solution is used by millions. In Africa, we are seriously handicapped, what is the internet penetration just in Kenya for one to successfully pull off a social media project? Nothing comparatively, the project will die within the first year.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
My point is, he didn't wait to form an organisation charged with coding a new OS,or a venture capitalist or regulation. He just started where he was with what he had...the rest as they say is history.
Passion and commerce are actually tied together for most succesful internet businesses....
Facebook; just a bunch of campus kids sharing social info (their passion) Youtube; just a bunch of campus kids sharing videos (their passion) Linux; Just a coder trying to get a more stable OS for his own purposes (gaming?).
These guys cared enough about something to try and fix it. The commerce aspect came later and they mostly had to hire the finance types to help them monetise something they were already doing.....
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@JohnDoe, you are welcome, I'll try and hang around as much as I can, though pressured by time. :-) Now you have hit the nail on the head about Solar Powered lamps. You see our problems and solutions are very different from the rest of the world and we should be using our own systems to resolve these problems. And which is exactly why we need incubators with financial backing for the initial 10 years or so, so as to create the right environment. Once we have such, the baton can be passed and we will be having a different discussion. And when you take the example of the digitization process, if it was done locally, there was a very good chance that someone locally would have created a scan script that would have increased performance. Its all inter-connected, how much we can do and to what level. When you have chances lost like the digitization project, we are going no where. This was my same comment on the KIE CD/DVD thread. We possibly may have created the first anti-piracy system for Africa, gotten it marketed and also gotten VC capital to really push the project. I can relate to this, I only get 3 hours per week to do any code or such, as bills and other things need to be paid so my focus is on my current career. I can imagine other developers facing similar problems yet are supposed to produce some great thing. We are in deep sh.t, the sooner we fix these problems and are serious in creating a high tech sector, the sooner we start the race towards the goals. Back in the 60s and the Race to the Moon, how much pressure was the US under from the USSR? How much finance did they commit to get a Man to the Moon? Just think about it. Linus would have never been able to send someone to the Moon. Rgds. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
@ aki,
But is Kenya's problem social media? We should use all the technology at our disposal to solve roblems that affect us directly.
A good example is Wandongo solar powered lamps. IS this something we should patent and deploy enmasse in Africa? I believe yes. Its a no brainer to me.
Do we need a Kenyan facebook? I believe no. Its a no brainer too.
BTW, you should hang around the list more often. You catalyse interesting discussions....
I think first by using his personal email address to attempt to address a national issue he invariably exposes how much respect he has for national institutions. As opposed to being a ministry of finance affair, it is an UK affair... On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:56 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@JohnDoe, you are welcome, I'll try and hang around as much as I can, though pressured by time. :-)
Now you have hit the nail on the head about Solar Powered lamps. You see our problems and solutions are very different from the rest of the world and we should be using our own systems to resolve these problems. And which is exactly why we need incubators with financial backing for the initial 10 years or so, so as to create the right environment. Once we have such, the baton can be passed and we will be having a different discussion.
And when you take the example of the digitization process, if it was done locally, there was a very good chance that someone locally would have created a scan script that would have increased performance. Its all inter-connected, how much we can do and to what level. When you have chances lost like the digitization project, we are going no where. This was my same comment on the KIE CD/DVD thread. We possibly may have created the first anti-piracy system for Africa, gotten it marketed and also gotten VC capital to really push the project.
I can relate to this, I only get 3 hours per week to do any code or such, as bills and other things need to be paid so my focus is on my current career. I can imagine other developers facing similar problems yet are supposed to produce some great thing. We are in deep sh.t, the sooner we fix these problems and are serious in creating a high tech sector, the sooner we start the race towards the goals.
Back in the 60s and the Race to the Moon, how much pressure was the US under from the USSR? How much finance did they commit to get a Man to the Moon?
Just think about it. Linus would have never been able to send someone to the Moon.
Rgds.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:40 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
@ aki,
But is Kenya's problem social media? We should use all the technology at our disposal to solve roblems that affect us directly.
A good example is Wandongo solar powered lamps. IS this something we should patent and deploy enmasse in Africa? I believe yes. Its a no brainer to me.
Do we need a Kenyan facebook? I believe no. Its a no brainer too.
BTW, you should hang around the list more often. You catalyse interesting discussions....
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