Equity Bank Planned Innovation Center
Ladies & Gentlemen, The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B. This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas. This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate. Maingi
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge <njoroge.maingi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue. Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users? Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge <njoroge.maingi@gmail.com
wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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joram besides a decent machine, you need food, shelter, clothing :) for a team On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue.
Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users?
Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com>wrote:
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge < njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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This is just a harvesting house for ideas. They say they'll fund ideas and not businesses. What happens when they deny you then a few months down the line a new Equity subsidiary is launched with the idea of yours truly. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
joram
besides a decent machine, you need food, shelter, clothing :)
for a team
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue.
Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users?
Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com>wrote:
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge < njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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@Ken: YOU SPOKE TRUTH On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ken Yanski <skunkazi@gmail.com> wrote:
This is just a harvesting house for ideas. They say they'll fund ideas and not businesses. What happens when they deny you then a few months down the line a new Equity subsidiary is launched with the idea of yours truly.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
joram
besides a decent machine, you need food, shelter, clothing :)
for a team
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue.
Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users?
Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com>wrote:
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge < njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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Well if your idea was that easy to 'steal' then maybe it deserves someone else to implement it. My take on ideas is they are useless until they find he right mix of people to work on them. I can assure you people had ideas and have tried to have a system like umm pesapal or pesapoint or Sevenseas. Funding ideas; just the idea no prototype, no way to validate it, no customer nothing! Doesn't make sense....even by equity...Not for me Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ken: YOU SPOKE TRUTH
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ken Yanski <skunkazi@gmail.com> wrote: This is just a harvesting house for ideas. They say they'll fund ideas and not businesses. What happens when they deny you then a few months down the line a new Equity subsidiary is launched with the idea of yours truly.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote: joram
besides a decent machine, you need food, shelter, clothing :)
for a team
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue.
Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users?
Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote: For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge <njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> wrote: Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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@Gitau : that is 'armature thinking'. when a bank wants to fund they ask for a proposal and a structure that shows you Idea gonna ripple the economies and return the cash they lend, and you seeking to convince them you put the idea as you seek to execute because if you don't do so then you got no funds. chances are they may never fund you. Now someone in the system should have seen the idea in plate and can re-fire it successfully to existence. I also like to remind you that we have Idealist (one who come with ideals but never run them) and we have starters(ones who only need to tell them something just something and they finish the rest). Open you mind dude stop sleeping...... On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:49 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Well if your idea was that easy to 'steal' then maybe it deserves someone else to implement it.
My take on ideas is they are useless until they find he right mix of people to work on them.
I can assure you people had ideas and have tried to have a system like umm pesapal or pesapoint or Sevenseas.
Funding ideas; just the idea no prototype, no way to validate it, no customer nothing! Doesn't make sense....even by equity...Not for me
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ken: YOU SPOKE TRUTH
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Ken Yanski < <skunkazi@gmail.com> skunkazi@gmail.com> wrote:
This is just a harvesting house for ideas. They say they'll fund ideas and not businesses. What happens when they deny you then a few months down the line a new Equity subsidiary is launched with the idea of yours truly.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Agosta Liko < <agostal@gmail.com> agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
joram
besides a decent machine, you need food, shelter, clothing :)
for a team
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Joram Mwinamo <<joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
In my experience working with entrepreneurs, financing is rarely the issue although it always manifests as the issue.
Especially for ICT products, what more do you need other than a decent machine and users?
Financing is good for scaling up not starting up........anyone who needs finance to start up may not be really serious about going into business
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Antony Mwai < <antonymwai@gmail.com> antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
For the genuine Innovators, financing their ideas into reality is a major hindrance.
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Maingi Njoroge <<njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> njoroge.maingi@gmail.com> wrote:
Ladies & Gentlemen,
The Other i was listening to the CEO of Equity Bank Dr. Mwangi and he Mentioned that the bank is in the process of setting up an innovation centre for funding ideas at yaya and back it up with a Kes 1B.
This will really be a major step forward for young entrepreneurs with bankable ideas.
This just made me think is Finance really the major hindrance to spurring innovation in Kenya and Africa generally as someone put are we all too much in to this culture that sees work as a curse to really innovate.
Maingi
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@Mickey i had to jump at this one :) Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone. Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something. MK
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years? My 2 cents On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow. Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office. Where did this idea for starting big come from? On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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@Mugambi, @ Kianja, @ALL: I agree with you OPINIONS but don't DISAGREE with my OPINION, you may be right and am I may be right. Some Ideas are poached will someone say that has never happened. So I agree but disagree at the same time. Yes you need to start somewhere well said. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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This is not a fight. What I see happening over and over of late is people who believe they are 'idea' people. They should be paid for the idea, or partner with you for ideas, I want you to test it, hire a developer, show me something beyond the talk. Differentiate your idea. Now imagine someone that has an idea and the ability to produce something and actually ship. Even if you steal it then what? on this list alone there are so so many ideas worth funding of someone goes out and starts executing them. In a startup environment we need people that can execute their ideas. And I stand by not funding ideas without something tangible other than PowerPoint slides and a passion. I dont care if its a bank. I also personally won't take anyone's money for an idea that doesn't have a customer, a prototype or at least an understanding that the finder is gambling. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 14 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mugambi, @ Kianja, @ALL: I agree with you OPINIONS but don't DISAGREE with my OPINION, you may be right and am I may be right. Some Ideas are poached will someone say that has never happened. So I agree but disagree at the same time. Yes you need to start somewhere well said.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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Hi Guys, The clip below on youtube can sum up what all are trying to say. Its called .......Where do good Ideas come from.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NugRZGDbPFU On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
This is not a fight. What I see happening over and over of late is people who believe they are 'idea' people. They should be paid for the idea, or partner with you for ideas, I want you to test it, hire a developer, show me something beyond the talk. Differentiate your idea.
Now imagine someone that has an idea and the ability to produce something and actually ship. Even if you steal it then what? on this list alone there are so so many ideas worth funding of someone goes out and starts executing them.
In a startup environment we need people that can execute their ideas. And I stand by not funding ideas without something tangible other than PowerPoint slides and a passion. I dont care if its a bank. I also personally won't take anyone's money for an idea that doesn't have a customer, a prototype or at least an understanding that the finder is gambling.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mugambi, @ Kianja, @ALL: I agree with you OPINIONS but don't DISAGREE with my OPINION, you may be right and am I may be right. Some Ideas are poached will someone say that has never happened. So I agree but disagree at the same time. Yes you need to start somewhere well said.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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Joram Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents Both raised A LOT of VC Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ? On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show. What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more. Gitau Sent from my iPad On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
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On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
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Look at it this way. There are 6 BILLION people on this planet. How likely is it that the idea you have hasn't been thought of before? How likely is it that an idea today is truly unique? I'm not saying its impossible. But it's unlikely. Many of the things we take pride in today (jet engines, helicopters, ballistics, computers, etc) are hardly original ideas. Even the iPhone of today was from an idea going all the way back to 1983 (with prototype). So I wouldn't get too attached to an idea. It is unlikely to be unique. What is not is execution. On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
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On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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@ConRAD On point I absolute agree On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at it this way.
There are 6 BILLION people on this planet.
How likely is it that the idea you have hasn't been thought of before? How likely is it that an idea today is truly unique?
I'm not saying its impossible. But it's unlikely. Many of the things we take pride in today (jet engines, helicopters, ballistics, computers, etc) are hardly original ideas. Even the iPhone of today was from an idea going all the way back to 1983 (with prototype).
So I wouldn't get too attached to an idea. It is unlikely to be unique. What is not is execution.
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
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ideas without execution are overrated. But I also had many ideas when I was younger, only with time did I realise that wasnt unique. The mind, has no boundaries, right now I have a great idea of a spaceship that can fly to mars and back..... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@ConRAD On point I absolute agree
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at it this way.
There are 6 BILLION people on this planet.
How likely is it that the idea you have hasn't been thought of before? How likely is it that an idea today is truly unique?
I'm not saying its impossible. But it's unlikely. Many of the things we take pride in today (jet engines, helicopters, ballistics, computers, etc) are hardly original ideas. Even the iPhone of today was from an idea going all the way back to 1983 (with prototype).
So I wouldn't get too attached to an idea. It is unlikely to be unique. What is not is execution.
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote: > @Mickey > > i had to jump at this one :) > > Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. > Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in > reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... > What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say > internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple > idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. > The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. > but > with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you > dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone. > > Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. > Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. > You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet > Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea > creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. > In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats > for you to decide > > Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. > Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline > 00:00: great new Idea > 1 minute later: some more details > 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. > 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then > you may be up to something. > > MK > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S
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I like ideas, every day I try to come up with as many outrageous ones as possible. Some work out, most dont. The ones that don't would probably work in someone else's care. And this is why I like places that incubate them. I personally like just hanging out at ihub/nailab/mlab for that reason. What im putting forward is never get so focused on the idea for ideas sake. It's to share them with people that can help you execute them, or set them free for others to work on. And yes I agree in some cases an 'idea' can get stolen maybe someone executes faster or better than you, it can happen and all I would say to that is : people sometimes talk too much. If you believe in it, execute it, don't yap about it. There I compromised:-) Gitau Sent from my iPad On 16 Feb 2012, at 09:20, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
ideas without execution are overrated. But I also had many ideas when I was younger, only with time did I realise that wasnt unique.
The mind, has no boundaries, right now I have a great idea of a spaceship that can fly to mars and back.....
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: @ConRAD On point I absolute agree
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: Look at it this way.
There are 6 BILLION people on this planet.
How likely is it that the idea you have hasn't been thought of before? How likely is it that an idea today is truly unique?
I'm not saying its impossible. But it's unlikely. Many of the things we take pride in today (jet engines, helicopters, ballistics, computers, etc) are hardly original ideas. Even the iPhone of today was from an idea going all the way back to 1983 (with prototype).
So I wouldn't get too attached to an idea. It is unlikely to be unique. What is not is execution.
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth stealing in the last say. 5 years?
My 2 cents
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mickey
i had to jump at this one :)
Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a simple idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is born. The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. but with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and you dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone.
Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be supported. You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to planet Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. thats for you to decide
Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline 00:00: great new Idea 1 minute later: some more details 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week then you may be up to something.
MK
_______________________________________________ S
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I have had an idea of listing shared items, but looking at pinterest , they have implemented a slightly different idea quite well, so it all boils down to implementation. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:35:59 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Equity Bank Planned Innovation Center _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@JORAM: "right now I have a great idea of a spaceship that can fly to mars and back" PLEASE DO'NT FEAR PUT THAT IDEA HERE NO ONE WILL POACH IT On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
ideas without execution are overrated. But I also had many ideas when I was younger, only with time did I realise that wasnt unique.
The mind, has no boundaries, right now I have a great idea of a spaceship that can fly to mars and back.....
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@ConRAD On point I absolute agree
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at it this way.
There are 6 BILLION people on this planet.
How likely is it that the idea you have hasn't been thought of before? How likely is it that an idea today is truly unique?
I'm not saying its impossible. But it's unlikely. Many of the things we take pride in today (jet engines, helicopters, ballistics, computers, etc) are hardly original ideas. Even the iPhone of today was from an idea going all the way back to 1983 (with prototype).
So I wouldn't get too attached to an idea. It is unlikely to be unique. What is not is execution.
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Mr, Gitau you assumptions are probably right but misleading because I have asked you again to say that IDEAS have not been poached before and I will respect you assumptions. Tell me that the worries of Late Steve Job on the iOS being hijacked for use on other non apple gadgets wasn't an idea at stake. Yes some ideas need originators execution but others need only to be mentioned. you mentioned of developers thank God, now when people need a system do they tell developers much, or "I need a system that does ABC" and from that what happens?.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
But you agree before raising the money, they had more to show than an 'idea' yes? Facebook had a site working before raising money, they had something to show.
What seems to be an issue here is 'ideas' that get stolen. I dont buy that assertion. I just don't get it. Pesapal is something many people had ideas of, heck i could claim it was stolen; your execution of it was excellent, that's what people want to fund, the idea plus the executors of that idea. People raise money all the time, but it's never just for an idea. There's go to be more.
Gitau
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:09, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Joram
Facebook and Microsoft started in a dorm room to kids who had well off parents
Both raised A LOT of VC
Name a tech company that did not raise money in the first year ?
On 2/14/12, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem with kenyans is wanting to start all ideas big so they can be rich by tomorrow.
Why not start at home with your PC? Even facebook began in a dormroom....and if you trace microsoft, you will see only 2 geeks starting out without an office.
Where did this idea for starting big come from?
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mugambi you are so on point. How many ideas have been generated worth > stealing in the last say. 5 years? > > My 2 cents > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mugambi Kimathi > <skunkworksjahazi@gmail.com> wrote: >> @Mickey >> >> i had to jump at this one :) >> >> Principal 1: Ideas really aren't worth all you think they are. >> Yes you're smart, yes, you're amazingly wonderful and creative. but in >> reality very few ideas are truly novel. think about it.... >> What really happens is that two independent technology evolutions (say >> internet and mobile phones) eventually progress to the point where a > simple >> idea to act as a bridge and convergence of the two .. and a product is > born. >> The farther you see the convergence the more brilliant your idea is.. >> but >> with every passing day the distance of the two technologies lessens and > you >> dont have a bright idea because it is obvious to everyone. >> >> Principal 2: Big Ideas need Big Resources. >> Dont just rely on your idea to make it all the way. it has to be > supported. >> You need great infrastructure. Say you have this big Idea of going to > planet >> Mars.. Well you need lots of resources to do it unlike a simple idea >> creating a mobile game of Xs and Os. >> In such a case would your rather own 5% of 1 Million or 100% of 10K. > thats >> for you to decide >> >> Principal 3: Let your ideas gestate. >> Usually we get so overly excited about new ideas. here is the timeline >> 00:00: great new Idea >> 1 minute later: some more details >> 2 minutes later: Think of the fancy s-class i shall buy when i get rich. >> 3 Days later... the idea has died down. if its still good after 1 week > then >> you may be up to something. >> >> MK >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> S
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