John, Going forward, how do you as a company deal with such [Vandalism/ Fibre cuts]? Are they preventable/avoidable? I can not imagine a future where they will be downtimes. Only last week we were not able to make calls on the safcon network due to cable breaks in the CBD... What is the way forward. Advice On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John H Mwangi <john.mwangi@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Skunkers,
Fiber resolved as from 1755 hrs. Happy surfing..
Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 199ms, Maximum = 200ms, Average = 199ms
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *John H Mwangi *Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:25 *To:* 'Skunkworks Forum'; 'skunkworks' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links
Hi Brian,
We’ve had a cable cut at Voi, an act of pure vandalism.
We however, have civil ongoing and hope to have the fault restored in the shortest time possible.
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Lusiola
*Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:14 *To:* Skunkworks forum; skunkworks *Subject:* [Skunkworks] KDN links
Just noticed the link has been put on satellite.
Any word on whats happened to our beloved seacom?
KDNers???
Regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
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Some time ago KDN and Telkom were getting into an agreement of providing each other with redundant links on the backhauls etc . At the time Seacom/KSN was down, teams was up i.e Telkom's fiber backhaul to Mombasa was up. What happened to the partnership? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:10 PM, James Wachira <jwaciira.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
John, Going forward, how do you as a company deal with such [Vandalism/ Fibre cuts]? Are they preventable/avoidable? I can not imagine a future where they will be downtimes. Only last week we were not able to make calls on the safcon network due to cable breaks in the CBD... What is the way forward. Advice
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John H Mwangi <john.mwangi@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Skunkers,
Fiber resolved as from 1755 hrs. Happy surfing..
Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 199ms, Maximum = 200ms, Average = 199ms
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *John H Mwangi *Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:25 *To:* 'Skunkworks Forum'; 'skunkworks' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links
Hi Brian,
We’ve had a cable cut at Voi, an act of pure vandalism.
We however, have civil ongoing and hope to have the fault restored in the shortest time possible.
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Lusiola
*Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:14 *To:* Skunkworks forum; skunkworks *Subject:* [Skunkworks] KDN links
Just noticed the link has been put on satellite.
Any word on whats happened to our beloved seacom?
KDNers???
Regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
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-- Mwafrika
...a lil typo error correction... Some time ago KDN and Telkom were getting into an agreement of providing each other with redundant links on the backhauls etc . At the time Seacom/KDN was down, teams was up i.e Telkom's fiber backhaul to Mombasa was up. What happened to the partnership? On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:10 PM, James Wachira <jwaciira.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
John, Going forward, how do you as a company deal with such [Vandalism/ Fibre cuts]? Are they preventable/avoidable? I can not imagine a future where they will be downtimes. Only last week we were not able to make calls on the safcon network due to cable breaks in the CBD... What is the way forward. Advice
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John H Mwangi <john.mwangi@kdn.co.ke>wrote:
Skunkers,
Fiber resolved as from 1755 hrs. Happy surfing..
Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 199ms, Maximum = 200ms, Average = 199ms
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *John H Mwangi *Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:25 *To:* 'Skunkworks Forum'; 'skunkworks' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links
Hi Brian,
We’ve had a cable cut at Voi, an act of pure vandalism.
We however, have civil ongoing and hope to have the fault restored in the shortest time possible.
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Lusiola
*Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:14 *To:* Skunkworks forum; skunkworks *Subject:* [Skunkworks] KDN links
Just noticed the link has been put on satellite.
Any word on whats happened to our beloved seacom?
KDNers???
Regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
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-- Mwafrika
A redudant network design with diversity in media, routing paths, technology and providers. The design, implementation and maintenance doesn't come cheap. On 07/11/2009, James Wachira <jwaciira.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
John, Going forward, how do you as a company deal with such [Vandalism/ Fibre cuts]? Are they preventable/avoidable? I can not imagine a future where they will be downtimes. Only last week we were not able to make calls on the safcon network due to cable breaks in the CBD... What is the way forward. Advice
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, John H Mwangi <john.mwangi@kdn.co.ke> wrote:
Skunkers,
Fiber resolved as from 1755 hrs. Happy surfing..
Pinging www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [87.248.113.14] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=199ms TTL=55
Reply from 87.248.113.14: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 87.248.113.14:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 199ms, Maximum = 200ms, Average = 199ms
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *John H Mwangi *Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:25 *To:* 'Skunkworks Forum'; 'skunkworks' *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links
Hi Brian,
We’ve had a cable cut at Voi, an act of pure vandalism.
We however, have civil ongoing and hope to have the fault restored in the shortest time possible.
Kind Regards,
John H Mwangi,
Customer Support Services,
Kenya Data Networks,
P.O Box 62499 - 00200,
Nairobi, Kenya.
Tel: +254 020 5 000 000, 711 060 000
EXT 107
Fax: +254 20 5 000 329
URL: www.kdn.co.ke ; www.butterfly.co.ke
msn: gmwazjh@hotmail.com
skype: gmwazjjh@skype.com
yahoo: gmwaz@yahoo.com
... "The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing" ...
Zephaniah 3:17 NIV
*From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@ lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Brian Lusiola
*Sent:* 06 November 2009 12:14 *To:* Skunkworks forum; skunkworks *Subject:* [Skunkworks] KDN links
Just noticed the link has been put on satellite.
Any word on whats happened to our beloved seacom?
KDNers???
Regards, -- Lusiola Brian Everyone has photographic memory, not everyone has film though.
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James, I acknowledge your mail. We will get back to you with the official company response.. Kind Regards, John H Mwangi, Kenya Data Networks. -----Original Message----- From: James Wachira <jwaciira.lists@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:10:17 To: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
To prevent the cuts and vandalism I guess is quite a tall order for the Telco companies. Some other authority ought to stamp its foot down in bigger shoes. To prevent service disruption is though achievable through implementation of various metrics as hinted by Msava. My independent opinion:) Rgds, Dan Kwach. Sent from my Butterfly® Wifi Device powered by KDN -----Original Message----- From: James Wachira <jwaciira.lists@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:10:17 To: Skunkworks Forum<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
who are the vandals? some stupid telco or some thief who mistook fiber for copper. Any telco thinking that subscribers will shift because of cable cuts must be in the wrong business. Extorting from matatus might be a better try. -- with Regards: Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2 A Campus Perspective, Comically wrapped in Satire : http://gramware.blogspot.com
possible reasons like; 1. Mere vandalism -like the night runners in kenyan villages :-) or 2. High stake business interests especially if your revenue like is pegged in splicing (repairing) fibre cuts or seapiracy On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
who are the vandals? some stupid telco or some thief who mistook fiber for copper. Any telco thinking that subscribers will shift because of cable cuts must be in the wrong business. Extorting from matatus might be a better try.
-- with Regards:
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The only way to prevent these vandalisms is to let the city and metro councils own these networks and give the service - this is how it works in Europe and the US. If the councils have the infrastructure and capacity is leased from them, no one would even think of cutting the fibre since you may be cutting your own links. Before I hear anyone shout about inefficiencies of our own Nairobi City Council - for this to work, the councils must have the capacity and personael to handle such infrastructures. ./Ok3ch On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Paul Msava <pmsava@gmail.com> wrote:
possible reasons like;
1. Mere vandalism -like the night runners in kenyan villages :-) or 2. High stake business interests especially if your revenue like is pegged in splicing (repairing) fibre cuts or seapiracy
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
who are the vandals? some stupid telco or some thief who mistook fiber for copper. Any telco thinking that subscribers will shift because of cable cuts must be in the wrong business. Extorting from matatus might be a better try.
-- with Regards:
Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2
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the council can't effectively supply water, fiber will be a tall order. -- with Regards: Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2 A Campus Perspective, Comically wrapped in Satire : http://gramware.blogspot.com
How about making those damn fiber cables piggyback on the power grid? Fiber transmission is immune to EMI? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
the council can't effectively supply water, fiber will be a tall order.
-- with Regards:
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...iirc, kplc once had a project/idea of running fiber on their H.T transmission lines, and reselling the bandwidth. whatever happened?... On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
How about making those damn fiber cables piggyback on the power grid? Fiber transmission is immune to EMI?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
the council can't effectively supply water, fiber will be a tall order.
-- with Regards:
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Hi Moto, They are offering this to the data operators. I've used KPLC power lines to pull fibre from across the street/road. Saved on having to dig a trench and irritating Nairobi residents :-) -----Original Message----- From: MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> Reply-to: motobaridi@gmail.com, Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] KDN links Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:32:50 +0300 ...iirc, kplc once had a project/idea of running fiber on their H.T transmission lines, and reselling the bandwidth. whatever happened?... On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: How about making those damn fiber cables piggyback on the power grid? Fiber transmission is immune to EMI? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote: the council can't effectively supply water, fiber will be a tall order. -- with Regards: Get your free technology e-magazine in pdf format: Tekniaonline: http://bit.ly/tekniaonline-2 A Campus Perspective, Comically wrapped in Satire : http://gramware.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- ------------------------------ <usinichunguze, ukiweza jifunze> ------------------------------ [: +254 722 296 184 , +254 732 296 654 e: motobaridi@motobaridi.com _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards, Joe Linux User: #361092 SIP: joe.njeru@ekiga.net
Like we said a few months ago - a competing company could put a vandal on a payroll in Ukambani. Anywho: A way to shika a vandal is simple [especially in those areas] - where the cable is cut, put posters around offering 10k for information on who cut the fiber... Leave a number for pple to SMS the culprits name or location... [there is always someone who knows something] Once the information is in, arrest the culprit and offer him [99.99% chances its a him] freedom and pay a few thousand if they tell you valuable information as to who put them up to it... If its his own act of 'god' to just vandalize, then no harm no foul,, lakini if its some company from the city... well ................
This is how progressive Kanjus world-wide are and will be making money in the future. I think ours are more keen on collecting spitting levies in addition to forcing levies on privately developed parking spaces! If only Kanju would think how much money they would make by mounting a WIFI/MAX AP on every lamp-post they have? On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The only way to prevent these vandalisms is to let the city and metro councils own these networks and give the service - this is how it works in Europe and the US. If the councils have the infrastructure and capacity is leased from them, no one would even think of cutting the fibre since you may be cutting your own links. Before I hear anyone shout about inefficiencies of our own Nairobi City Council - for this to work, the councils must have the capacity and personael to handle such infrastructures.
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Paul Msava <pmsava@gmail.com> wrote:
possible reasons like;
1. Mere vandalism -like the night runners in kenyan villages :-) or 2. High stake business interests especially if your revenue like is pegged in splicing (repairing) fibre cuts or seapiracy
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
who are the vandals? some stupid telco or some thief who mistook fiber for copper. Any telco thinking that subscribers will shift because of cable cuts must be in the wrong business. Extorting from matatus might be a better try.
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If only Kanju would think how much money they would make by mounting a WIFI/MAX AP on every lamp-post they have?
interesting ...adopt-a-wifi? anyone?? On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> wrote:
This is how progressive Kanjus world-wide are and will be making money in the future. I think ours are more keen on collecting spitting levies in addition to forcing levies on privately developed parking spaces! If only Kanju would think how much money they would make by mounting a WIFI/MAX AP on every lamp-post they have?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The only way to prevent these vandalisms is to let the city and metro councils own these networks and give the service - this is how it works in Europe and the US. If the councils have the infrastructure and capacity is leased from them, no one would even think of cutting the fibre since you may be cutting your own links. Before I hear anyone shout about inefficiencies of our own Nairobi City Council - for this to work, the councils must have the capacity and personael to handle such infrastructures.
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Paul Msava <pmsava@gmail.com> wrote:
possible reasons like;
1. Mere vandalism -like the night runners in kenyan villages :-) or 2. High stake business interests especially if your revenue like is pegged in splicing (repairing) fibre cuts or seapiracy
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
who are the vandals? some stupid telco or some thief who mistook fiber for copper. Any telco thinking that subscribers will shift because of cable cuts must be in the wrong business. Extorting from matatus might be a better try.
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Aye.. the problem is: the moment you mount that thing up on a post, is the same day it will leave the post.... there are many installers out there looking for such hardware to build cybers, or sell them in computer accessories shops [?]... As the king of the 300 spartans put it: "THIS... IS... KENYAAA !!!
participants (13)
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Dan O.Kwach -
Dennis Kioko -
James Wachira -
Joe Murithi Njeru -
John H Mwangi -
Kiti Chigiri -
Moses -
MotoBaridi -
ndungu stephen -
nick muttai -
Okechukwu -
Paul Msava -
Peter Karunyu