@motobaridi Then theh the forger sgould pray that the other true isnt on the road and car model and make be exactly the same.Otherwise the system should get "God like existency "...one car in multiple location at the same time.May be you are talking about distributed stand alone systems.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:49:09 +0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Traffic Cameras in Nairobi In this context, "fake" doesn't mean "non-existent", rather "belonging to some other car". In the event the system checks with other authorities, the registration will exist, but they'll end up chasing the wrong owner. Don't be surprised when cops start checking those number plates, trying to see if they have been recently attached, or look too new :)
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions < kinprocomputers@gmail.com> wrote:
Boys...puting a fake plate number means its un registered car.That system is supposed to work with various authority at the same time..from Insurance,Taxi, security etc.
There should be a database where anything caught on camera can be compared.From face recognition, stolen cars, cars that have been reclaimed in insurance or elsewhere as right-off, suspects, etc..
If the said one isn't having these basic features then its more than funny.
The traffic lights can be programmed by time of day (not sure if they can be done remotely depending on density) The issue with traffic and cameras arises if they are poorly programmed, eg in Jo'burg you'll find that going down a road with a set of cameras is irritating, you go through a green one, find the other one red. Ideally, if you are driving down Uhuru Highway or Valley Road, Kenyatta Avenue, you should find successive lights green if you are driving between certain speeds, eg 40kph to 70kph. Traffic builds up every time it stops or slows to a crawl. To prevent vandals, we should use the kind of metal gauge that Kenha finds surprising.
A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll.. Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
There is never a situation like this, thats why there is an orange/amber light - they teach this in driving school, I guess! ./Ok3ch On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 6:58 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll..
Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
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its really creepy waiting for green lights at some places. eg uhuru park getting to town at 1 am..... and counter is at 45. For security purposes....i would rather jump the lights On Nov 10, 2013 10:59 PM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is never a situation like this, thats why there is an orange/amber light - they teach this in driving school, I guess!
./Ok3ch
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A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll..
Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
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The lights could be programmed to flash amber between certain times, like from 11. pm to 5am for situations such as Tusker mentioned or in emergencies. In Bangalore the lights flash continuous amber from 9pm to around 5am, keep people moving, On 11 November 2013 07:46, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
its really creepy waiting for green lights at some places. eg uhuru park getting to town at 1 am..... and counter is at 45. For security purposes....i would rather jump the lights On Nov 10, 2013 10:59 PM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is never a situation like this, thats why there is an orange/amber light - they teach this in driving school, I guess!
./Ok3ch
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A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll..
Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
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I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires... On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Nd'wex Common <flexycat@gmail.com> wrote:
I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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Where is the operations center located anyway? And they have cables unning fom each taffic cam to the NOC ama its over telcos network? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
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I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
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I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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This will not work, until you withdraw the police from the roads, they confuse the whole system. I always stop at red lights then you have everyone hooting at you and then you see a cop motioning you to move from the other end of the round about.....how will this work again? On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
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I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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If Nairobian's are not afraid of on-coming trains I doubt if they are afraid of traffic cameras On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
This will not work, until you withdraw the police from the roads, they confuse the whole system. I always stop at red lights then you have everyone hooting at you and then you see a cop motioning you to move from the other end of the round about.....how will this work again?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
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I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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Maaaybe for the cops there is a way to override the system, probably a temporary local shutdown, or some trigger that causes all footage taken during the time the cop is in control to be stamped with "HUMAN IN CONTROL" or some such. Or cop calls the NOC and alerts them that they are about to take over a certain intersection. And hopefully forgets to call again ;) I run out of fingers counting the ways this system will get misused before the HUMAN factor (cops, controllers) get their act together. On 11/12/13, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
This will not work, until you withdraw the police from the roads, they confuse the whole system. I always stop at red lights then you have everyone hooting at you and then you see a cop motioning you to move from the other end of the round about.....how will this work again?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Nd'wex Common <flexycat@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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But its a start. R D On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maaaybe for the cops there is a way to override the system, probably a temporary local shutdown, or some trigger that causes all footage taken during the time the cop is in control to be stamped with "HUMAN IN CONTROL" or some such. Or cop calls the NOC and alerts them that they are about to take over a certain intersection. And hopefully forgets to call again ;)
I run out of fingers counting the ways this system will get misused before the HUMAN factor (cops, controllers) get their act together.
On 11/12/13, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
This will not work, until you withdraw the police from the roads, they confuse the whole system. I always stop at red lights then you have everyone hooting at you and then you see a cop motioning you to move from the other end of the round about.....how will this work again?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Nd'wex Common <flexycat@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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Some years back, by 8pm the traffic lights begin flashing amber. During public holidays and weekends traffic lights flashed amber. Back then a lot of thought and planning was done. Nowadays, with cameras on poles next to the road and wires hanging, it feels like it is a science fair priject done by some form ones :) On Nov 15, 2013 11:32 AM, "Denis G. Wahome" <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
But its a start.
R
D
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:39 PM, motobaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maaaybe for the cops there is a way to override the system, probably a temporary local shutdown, or some trigger that causes all footage taken during the time the cop is in control to be stamped with "HUMAN IN CONTROL" or some such. Or cop calls the NOC and alerts them that they are about to take over a certain intersection. And hopefully forgets to call again ;)
I run out of fingers counting the ways this system will get misused before the HUMAN factor (cops, controllers) get their act together.
On 11/12/13, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
This will not work, until you withdraw the police from the roads, they confuse the whole system. I always stop at red lights then you have everyone hooting at you and then you see a cop motioning you to move from the other end of the round about.....how will this work again?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess with a smart system, sensors can be used to check the traffic density thereby eliminating the need for the police to do so. The sensors can be used together with timing to determine density per hour.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM, wilson mwangi <wilsonmwangih@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it complete yet? Has anyone one noticed the cables hanging, They'd have put some effort in trying to hide the wires...
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Nd'wex Common <flexycat@gmail.com>wrote:
I dont suppose cops will have to run around looking for a given vehicle, wait till you go to renew some documents relating to the car and alas, therein lies a charge sheet dating back to some funny date....
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I swear we and a few others crossed the green-light just in time - by the time we got to the other end of the round-about, the other lane started moving - cutting us off in the middle of the roundabout. Maybe its an issue of theoretical time versus practical time. On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is never a situation like this, thats why there is an orange/amber light - they teach this in driving school, I guess!
./Ok3ch
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 6:58 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll..
Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
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Just wondering...what type of sensor triggers the camera to take the photo when a driver jumps a light? and where is it placed? If for instance a person crossed pass the sensor when the light was red, would it take his picture? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
I swear we and a few others crossed the green-light just in time - by the time we got to the other end of the round-about, the other lane started moving - cutting us off in the middle of the roundabout.
Maybe its an issue of theoretical time versus practical time.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is never a situation like this, thats why there is an orange/amber light - they teach this in driving school, I guess!
./Ok3ch
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 6:58 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
A question: What if one crosses the green-light just before the red-light goes on, then the other lane's green-light goes on and one is caught in the middle of the roundabout and looks like a total troll..
Do the cameras have timestamp synced to the traffic light changes incase one gets summoned for such unintended road-trolling ?
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Boniface -
Denis G. Wahome -
Dennis Kioko -
James Wanjau -
Jimmy Thuo -
Joe Odanga -
Joram Mwinamo -
Kinpro Computers-All IT soutions -
Mark Mwangi -
motobaridi -
Nd'wex Common -
ndungu stephen -
Nicholas Mutinda -
Okechukwu -
Tusker 21 -
wilson mwangi