OT: how to handle yourself when caught by city council - in light of new by-laws !
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies. This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives. Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet. If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris. I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris. It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby. The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans. After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob. So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching! Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn. Beware: The City’s deadliest sins 1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable. The City’s survival tips 1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged. Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25 25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Have a good friday :-) GM On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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does this purport I should bribe my way out ... 2010/7/2 Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com>
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
Have a good friday :-)
GM
On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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There's another saying from the Good book. Can't remember the chapter but it goes something like Being Good knocks the door, "But a bribe opens it". The quoted part is in the Good book. LOL! --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote: From: Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] OT: how to handle yourself when caught by city council - in light of new by-laws ! To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 4:18 PM does this purport I should bribe my way out ... 2010/7/2 Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com> Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25 25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Have a good friday :-) GM On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote: This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies. This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives. Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet. If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris. I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris. It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby. The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans. After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob. So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching! Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn. Beware: The City’s deadliest sins 1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable. The City’s survival tips 1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged. Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Mimano G. 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Psalm 104:14-15 he causeth the herb to grow for the service of man
@solo I will not attempt to interpret the passage but I think in for me a bribe is not the first option, among many. I prefer talking my way out. (Like a allegedly cool windows feature, it mostly Never works so I normally default to the second option :-) ) On 2 July 2010 17:48, John Maina <mwasjunior@gmail.com> wrote:
Psalm 104:14-15 he causeth the herb to grow for the service of man
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all that are interested.....download the good book on your phone from http://wap.jolon.org/22. This will help you quote the correct verses. On 7/2/2010 5:48 PM, John Maina wrote:
Psalm 104:14-15 he causeth the herb to grow for the service of man
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yawn! On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:51 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
all that are interested.....download the good book on your phone from http://wap.jolon.org/22. This will help you quote the correct verses.
On 7/2/2010 5:48 PM, John Maina wrote:
Psalm 104:14-15 he causeth the herb to grow for the service of man
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@ James, thanks a million for the Bible link. On 09/07/2010, M.I <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
yawn!
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:51 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
all that are interested.....download the good book on your phone from http://wap.jolon.org/22. This will help you quote the correct verses.
On 7/2/2010 5:48 PM, John Maina wrote:
Psalm 104:14-15 he causeth the herb to grow for the service of man
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Psalms 26: 9-11 ... {26:9} Gather not my soul with sinners, nor my life with bloody men: {26:10} In whose hands [is] mischief, and their right hand is full of bribes. {26:11} But as for me, I will walk in mine integrity: redeem me, and be merciful unto me... On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
There's another saying from the Good book. Can't remember the chapter but it goes something like Being Good knocks the door, "But a bribe opens it". The quoted part is in the Good book. LOL!
--- On *Fri, 7/2/10, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] OT: how to handle yourself when caught by city council - in light of new by-laws ! To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 4:18 PM
does this purport I should bribe my way out ...
2010/7/2 Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=soyfactor@gmail.com>
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
Have a good friday :-)
GM
On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ndungustephen@gmail.com>
wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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thanks guys for the update bet for non nairobians like me will make no stop overs...coz will be caught for practically anything...and how do u differentiate btw waizi and kajo... On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Paul Mbugua <plmbugua@gmail.com> wrote:
Psalms 26: 9-11 ... {26:9} Gather not my soul with sinners, nor my life with bloody men: {26:10} In whose hands [is] mischief, and their right hand is full of bribes. {26:11} But as for me, I will walk in mine integrity: redeem me, and be merciful unto me...
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
There's another saying from the Good book. Can't remember the chapter but it goes something like Being Good knocks the door, "But a bribe opens it". The quoted part is in the Good book. LOL!
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From: Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] OT: how to handle yourself when caught by city council - in light of new by-laws ! To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 4:18 PM
does this purport I should bribe my way out ...
2010/7/2 Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=soyfactor@gmail.com>
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
Have a good friday :-)
GM
On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ndungustephen@gmail.com>
wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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On 02/07/2010, Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
So the CCN Askari could well be within the law when they demand a 'kitu kidogo' before landing you their courts?
Have a good friday :-)
GM
On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes.
Suppose I'm walking with my girlfriend holding hands?
11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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There was a law the other day by the same Council, which stipulated that if you were caught taking pictures in the City without a licence, you are in for a hot(or cold?) soup or a fine of 10K! I wonder what would happen to a student on a college assignment get that amount of money from. Is there a law that doesn't allow people to drink soda or even water as you walk? I'm fearing doing anything in the city, courtesy of the city by-laws. -- Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau ***************************************************** Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://smiley2.wordpress.com http://mburu.sikika.co.ke
I think that's what the verse infers... better bribe your @$$ off before the lorry reaches the compound ! Otherwise, it seems the city council "judge" <keep the quotes> - does not care to listen to your case... Chewing gum is worth 5/- ,,, and the fine for being caught buying it is freakin 2000 bob !!!!
Geoff thats a good one. On 02/07/2010, Geoffrey Mimano <soyfactor@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is a passage from the Good book that might help. Matthew 5:25
25"Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
Have a good friday :-)
GM
On 2 July 2010 15:25, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For your understanding and educating your friends and relatives.
Maybe you’ve been caught on the wrong side of the City Council by-laws or haven’t yet.
If you’re one of those ones who haven’t, let me share my experience at the hands of city council askaris.
I was unsuspectingly buying myself a stick of gum, when I was nabbed by the askaris.
It took me a few minutes to wrap my head around what was happening. I was quickly informed that it was a crime to purchase goods from a hawker, and after lying through my teeth in a bid to convince them to let me go, I was berated for being ignorant and immediately marched to a city council vehicle that was parked nearby.
The last time I checked the hawker who had sold me gum was right behind me, accompanied by another askari but to my surprise, I was the only one who got into the pick up! I guess City Council is synonymous to Kitu Kidogo because everyone who gave them some cash was let go in the course of our journey around the town center, as we looked for other ‘unfortunate’ Kenyans.
After the final lap, we were taken to the City council Offices at city hall, where the magistrate briskly gave out sentences for such misdemeanors; I was shocked to be fined Sh2,000 for buying a stick of gum, while hawkers were getting away with a day’s work at the council offices, or a bribe of 500 bob.
So there it is… bribery in this case is cheaper than justice. Truth is with the new rules (cash cows) that have been put in place, there are bound to be many victims of ignorance. Needless to say, I was late for work but learned a very valuable lesson, CCN is always watching!
Below is a list of the 10 petty offences that I witnessed being charged in the Nairobi City Court as I waited for my turn.
Beware: The City’s deadliest sins
1. Buying from hawkers 2. Sitting on a flower pot in the CBD 3. Spitting on any footpath or blowing the nose aimlessly other than into a suitable cloth or tissue 4. Taking or alighting from a matatu from a non-designated area 5. Crossing the road while you are on the phone 6. Making any kind of noise on the streets 7. Playing any game, riding or driving or propelling on a foot path 8. Graffiti 9. Owner of a burning building should pay for fire fighting services whether the owner requested for attendance or not. 10. Loitering, importuning or attempting to procure a female/male for prostitution purposes. 11. Having you car with a ‘FOR SALE’ sign and haven’t paid the council is also punishable.
The City’s survival tips
1. The moment you get into the council courts and charged, please plead guilty because only then, will you be allowed to pay a fine of a maximum of Sh2000. If you deny the charges you may be arrested for two days with no fine. 2. Do not argue with the council askaris if you know that you are guilty as charged. You might just double your fine. 3. Bribes are unacceptable after/immediately the lorry has entered the city council’s compound. 4. M-PESA is not allowed to pay for a crime. 5. Someone else MUST pay your fine. You cannot pay the fine yourself after you have been charged.
Ø The other day I saw Kanjo arresting a man for pulling his suit case on its wheels, they want you to carry it n not pull it - yet to find out the fine.
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a narration by one caught by city council askaris - and his advise for those who may be caught by the same hippies.
This comes in light of the new by-laws, that have taken power to "cough" away from the citizens, and given dark sith powers to city council.
This is what happens when the least competent authority is given the highest powers. Except it to get worse since many businesses have vacated from the city centre -- so primary revenue streams (both formal and informal) for the council are going to come out of arbitrary fines. Some years back I was arrested for throwing a match-stick into a city council dustbin on kenyatta avenue. Back then smoking was legal but throwing a match-stick in a bin was characterized as a "fire hazard". The city council chap wanted a bribe, I refused, and I got loaded into this famous, aforementioned city council paddy-wagon / pickup. As you describe, this pickup went around town for the next couple of hours seemingly arresting people at random : hot-dog seller, scratch-card hawker, "idler" (just some guy sitting on a bench), a uni-student for littering ...and a while later (around 8pm) , prostitutes. The one thing they all had in common was that none of them could afford to pay the bribe (ksh 200 if you looked broke, ksh 1000 if you looked "decent"). Very soon the van was full, and people had to sit on top of each other. The guy from the council would periodically come around to the back insisting that I should pay him the bribe, because the people in the pickup werent "decent", and I looked kinda "decent". Finally, I took out my wallet and gave him the business card of a certain police official who was rather well known at that time (not that I knew him in anyway). I told him that the guy in the business card was gonna pay him the bribe, I would just have to call him. This got the council guys worried, and they asked me where I worked, I told them I worked for the nation media group (which was of course untrue) ... and they immediately kicked me out of the pickup and left in a hurry. I dont know what happened to the other arrested people after that, but what struck me most was that they seemed to take it very casually (except for the uni-student who tried to protest and shout) -- it seemed to me that these people were being arrested everyday, and they had simply given up.
It strikes me that there is a need for some mechanism by which citizens can be quickly and efficiently updated on the byzantine (by)laws the city council seems to pass at random. It would require at least one individual to continually poll the updated gazette, interpret and propagate the laws on a website and/or mailing list. I predict it would be very popular. If anybody is willing to take on this responsibility, I will happily provide hosting.
I heard there is a law about keeping left in a zebra crossing(By pedestrians). Does such a thing exist.
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