DISSAPOINTING http://www.knec-results.ac.ke/

Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results. It can't open. This web page is not available Google Chrome could not load the web page because *www.knec-results.ac.ke* took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection. -- Regards Memusi Communication is vital in this century....

Memusi, Its not solutions that are lacking. The question is, does KNEC want to implement real solutions that will scale? They have a whole year to get ready and have a solution......its a shame that every year it comes to this. Regards On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available Google Chrome could not load the web page because *www.knec-results.ac.ke* took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents * If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. - Emerson M. Pugh *

has anyone tried the short code either no response too. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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The short code worked fine for me when I tried, it took a few minutes to respond but it did. David. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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Worked for me ... On 12/28/11, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:
The short code worked fine for me when I tried, it took a few minutes to respond but it did.
David.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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Well, if they are on a *nix server, they can opt for a thread based rather than a process based web server , scales highly on demand bursts http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1986976/multi-process-webserver-vs-multi-... I have no idea about whether IIS is process or thread based, and what you do in IIS to increase performance due to high traffic load or many static files. Agosta can clarify on this as he has worked with such servers

Most of these issues can be masked by throwing tonnes of RAM and CPU at them :) On 12/28/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if they are on a *nix server, they can opt for a thread based rather than a process based web server , scales highly on demand bursts
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1986976/multi-process-webserver-vs-multi-...
I have no idea about whether IIS is process or thread based, and what you do in IIS to increase performance due to high traffic load or many static files. Agosta can clarify on this as he has worked with such servers
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YES INDEED On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Most of these issues can be masked by throwing tonnes of RAM and CPU at them
:)
On 12/28/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if they are on a *nix server, they can opt for a thread based rather than a process based web server , scales highly on demand bursts
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1986976/multi-process-webserver-vs-multi-...
I have no idea about whether IIS is process or thread based, and what you do in IIS to increase performance due to high traffic load or many static files. Agosta can clarify on this as he has worked with such servers
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Now that knec are blaming the ranking to a computer error, do they realize that if you do a select query and order by mean grade desc there is no way you will get no 2 as no 1 and vice Varsa My two cents Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:47:21 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] DISSAPOINTING http://www.knec-results.ac.ke/ _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

the sms works just got my nephew's results :) On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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Website is back online as well. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
the sms works just got my nephew's results :)
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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Its now behaving well On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Website is back online as well.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
the sms works just got my nephew's results :)
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com> wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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Really behaving... On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
Its now behaving well
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:
Website is back online as well.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Karimi <kndigah@gmail.com> wrote:
the sms works just got my nephew's results :)
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, peter mumira <mumirap@gmail.com>wrote:
has anyone tried the short code either no response too.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com>wrote:
Well we can say that we are the worst planners or what! echoing @Aki's and other listers sentiments on the power tread it boils down to lack of planning and if they do they don't test it adequately - 2 people testing the system is not the same as when 200,000 + people want to query the db at the same time. They know the numbers and what happens every year. Service delivery at it's lowest. My 2cents *
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I believe we did, on this very forum, many months ago. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:31, Memusi <tonatech@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available Google Chrome could not load the web page because *www.knec-results.ac.ke* took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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Cloud :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Memusi" <tonatech@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:31:08 PM Subject: [Skunkworks] DISSAPOINTING http://www.knec-results.ac.ke/ Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results. It can't open. This web page is not available Google Chrome could not load the web page because www.knec-results.ac.ke took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection. -- Regards Memusi Communication is vital in this century.... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
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Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
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Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then chances are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that! On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Memusi" <tonatech@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:31:08 PM Subject: [Skunkworks] DISSAPOINTING http://www.knec-results.ac.ke/
Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
Google Chrome could not load the web page because www.knec-results.ac.ketook too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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According to a high level sources, they are aware of the problem but they say the cost implication of hardware, and power is too solve a problem that only occurs once a year. On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com>wrote:
Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then chances are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
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Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
Google Chrome could not load the web page because www.knec-results.ac.ketook too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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Then they should try cloud? 2012/1/3 Humphrey Ngoiya <hngoiya@yahoo.co.uk>
According to a high level sources, they are aware of the problem but they say the cost implication of hardware, and power is too solve a problem that only occurs once a year.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com>wrote:
Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then chances are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Memusi" <tonatech@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:31:08 PM Subject: [Skunkworks] DISSAPOINTING http://www.knec-results.ac.ke/
Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
Google Chrome could not load the web page because www.knec-results.ac.ke took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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Does anyone have a mole inside KNEC? I'd love to know the specifications of the server(s) on which they run the system? That way, I can probably understand what they mean by "cost implication" I still think they can afford a "monster workstation" (BIG CPU, LARGE RAM, SSDs (with TRIM support) on some fast RAID). That can't be expensive for KNEC, unless they sell mandazi in Kibera. Performance tuning of that machine can be done for them by this community if their IT geeks can't. Some guys have suggested "the cloud". Who says the cloud is tuned to the performance requirements of the KNEC system? It could even be running on some "slow cloud" as we speak. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:02, Humphrey Ngoiya <hngoiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
According to a high level sources, they are aware of the problem but they say the cost implication of hardware, and power is too solve a problem that only occurs once a year.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com>wrote:
Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then chances are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani < riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
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Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
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@Humphrey actually after giving it a thought what else would they do with the hardware if they did buy it? Am sure there would be tons of uses they could utilize the hardware on, think it's just an excuse. my 2 cents -- * If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. - Emerson M. Pugh *

Why then can't they lease/rent the necessary hardware for the required duration On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Humphrey Ngoiya <hngoiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
According to a high level sources, they are aware of the problem but they say the cost implication of hardware, and power is too solve a problem that only occurs once a year.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then chances are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
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Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
Google Chrome could not load the web page because www.knec-results.ac.ke took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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You know what I feel about all this? Kenyans have solutions for their problems. The only problem about that is that they can never get to deliver the solution to the problem because of several reasons, the most important one being "they don't care" at the end of the day. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 13:44, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
Why then can't they lease/rent the necessary hardware for the required duration
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Humphrey Ngoiya <hngoiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
According to a high level sources, they are aware of the problem but they say the cost implication of hardware, and power is too solve a problem that only occurs once a year.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com> wrote:
Do we have standards for these implementations? What do we test against when we are testing? What are our test cases? Do we have any quality assurance done and by who? If we can't answer these questions then
chances
are high we don't have a reliable system. We just have a program which can accept an input, do some processing (whatever it is) and give an output (no matter what it is). A system is more than that!
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
If the application is poorly architected, throwing technology at the problem will not fix it
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Riyaz Bachani <riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
Cloud :)
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Can someone propose a solution to the mtihani house to solve this overload problem for querying results.
It can't open. This web page is not available
Google Chrome could not load the web page because
www.knec-results.ac.ke
took too long to respond. The website may be down or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
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Everyone here is assuming the problem is the hardware. How sure are we the application was well designed to be robust and scalable? The solution to performance is not always bigger/faster/more hardware!

Tehehehe. @Rad when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone here is assuming the problem is the hardware.
How sure are we the application was well designed to be robust and scalable? The solution to performance is not always bigger/faster/more hardware!
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We have reason to believe that KNEC used some of the best developers available, but just couldn't allocate the funds for the server - you know how it gets when the guy at the head of IT is the Finance Director:-) If they found those to be expensive too, then I am not sure what to say. Unfortunately, all we have at our disposal is imaginations. When you get an overloaded SQL server, the problem can be both ways - poor design, insufficient hardware resources. Let's give them the benefit of doubt - that at least the developers thought/projected the amount of queries per second they'd be handling during the peak performance. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 14:53, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone here is assuming the problem is the hardware.
How sure are we the application was well designed to be robust and scalable? The solution to performance is not always bigger/faster/more hardware!
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there is no problem with the guy at the head, you cant trust just any other tom , dick and harry to head the department..., remember the KU exams saga.... u would not want it to happen at KNEC On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
We have reason to believe that KNEC used some of the best developers available, but just couldn't allocate the funds for the server - you know how it gets when the guy at the head of IT is the Finance Director:-) If they found those to be expensive too, then I am not sure what to say. Unfortunately, all we have at our disposal is imaginations. When you get an overloaded SQL server, the problem can be both ways - poor design, insufficient hardware resources. Let's give them the benefit of doubt - that at least the developers thought/projected the amount of queries per second they'd be handling during the peak performance.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 14:53, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone here is assuming the problem is the hardware.
How sure are we the application was well designed to be robust and scalable? The solution to performance is not always bigger/faster/more hardware!
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What I intended to infer is that Finance Directors are quite receptive to ideas, until it comes to the actual spending! My first statement started with the allocation of funds. The FD was just a qualifier. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 17:10, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
there is no problem with the guy at the head, you cant trust just any other tom , dick and harry to head the department..., remember the KU exams saga.... u would not want it to happen at KNEC
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
We have reason to believe that KNEC used some of the best developers available, but just couldn't allocate the funds for the server - you know how it gets when the guy at the head of IT is the Finance Director:-) If they found those to be expensive too, then I am not sure what to say. Unfortunately, all we have at our disposal is imaginations. When you get an overloaded SQL server, the problem can be both ways - poor design, insufficient hardware resources. Let's give them the benefit of doubt - that at least the developers thought/projected the amount of queries per second they'd be handling during the peak performance.
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 14:53, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone here is assuming the problem is the hardware.
How sure are we the application was well designed to be robust and scalable? The solution to performance is not always bigger/faster/more hardware!
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participants (18)
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Agosta Liko
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bernard kioko
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calvinebarongo@gmail.com
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David Mugo
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Dennis Kioko
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Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)
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Humphrey Ngoiya
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Jimmy Thuo
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Joseph Maina
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Karimi
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kris njoroge
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Lawrence Kago
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Memusi
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Odhiambo Washington
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peter mumira
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Rad!
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Raymond Rono
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Riyaz Bachani