Why Google came out with Android
The Reason: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.” Vic Gundotra VP Developer Products, Google (@ Google I/O'10) The Rebuttal: "But We're Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model." John Paczkowski All Things Digital The Fact: "... Google acquired Android in August of 2005. That’s nearly 18 months before the world even knew about iPhone, let alone its carrier model or prospects for success." Matt Drance Apple Outsider The Word from 1 Infinite Loop: Can't wait for the "Wrath of Steve" on June 7...
I must say it has been a lot of fun watching Apple fan-boys frothing and getting bent out of shape. I'm curious to see what tricks Cupertino has on June 7th ... It is interesting that your post is the only one on Skunkworks-KE regarding Google IO, Facebook f8, or Twitter Chirp. Is it that devs in Kenya find these happenings to be largely irrelevant to "our daily bread", or is it just that these discussions are happening elsewhere? Curious... saidi PS FWIW, it wasn't a secret that 1 Infinite Loop would get into mobile... that was known way before the iPhone launched. Talking of which: did you know the "revolutionary" iPhone design wasn't quite that? Check out these two links: the first one of an LG phone pre-dating the first iPhone; and the second of an open-source phone (OpenMoko, now defunct) with full multi-touch support also pre-dating the iPhone (the illustrations are eerily familiar). I guess innovation is in the eye of the beholder ;) http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/iphone-and-lg-ke850-separated-at-birth http://www.slashgear.com/fic-linux-cellphone-can-it-capture-the-imagination-... On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Glenn Sequeira <gsequeira@gmail.com> wrote:
The Reason: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.”
Vic Gundotra VP Developer Products, Google (@ Google I/O'10)
The Rebuttal: "But We're Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model."
John Paczkowski All Things Digital
The Fact: "... Google acquired Android in August of 2005. That’s nearly 18 months before the world even knew about iPhone, let alone its carrier model or prospects for success."
Matt Drance Apple Outsider
The Word from 1 Infinite Loop: Can't wait for the "Wrath of Steve" on June 7... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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It's not about innovation. It's about *execution* On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:03 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
I must say it has been a lot of fun watching Apple fan-boys frothing and getting bent out of shape. I'm curious to see what tricks Cupertino has on June 7th ... It is interesting that your post is the only one on Skunkworks-KE regarding Google IO, Facebook f8, or Twitter Chirp. Is it that devs in Kenya find these happenings to be largely irrelevant to "our daily bread", or is it just that these discussions are happening elsewhere? Curious... saidi
PS FWIW, it wasn't a secret that 1 Infinite Loop would get into mobile... that was known way before the iPhone launched. Talking of which: did you know the "revolutionary" iPhone design wasn't quite that? Check out these two links: the first one of an LG phone pre-dating the first iPhone; and the second of an open-source phone (OpenMoko, now defunct) with full multi-touch support also pre-dating the iPhone (the illustrations are eerily familiar). I guess innovation is in the eye of the beholder ;) http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/iphone-and-lg-ke850-separated-at-birth
http://www.slashgear.com/fic-linux-cellphone-can-it-capture-the-imagination-...
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Glenn Sequeira <gsequeira@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Reason: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.”
Vic Gundotra VP Developer Products, Google (@ Google I/O'10)
The Rebuttal: "But We're Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model."
John Paczkowski All Things Digital
The Fact: "... Google acquired Android in August of 2005. That’s nearly 18 months before the world even knew about iPhone, let alone its carrier model or prospects for success."
Matt Drance Apple Outsider
The Word from 1 Infinite Loop: Can't wait for the "Wrath of Steve" on June 7... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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@Rad Kweli kabisa we all gots good/great ideas lakini the execution is what defines if the idea will will be a great product or just another product. V On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not about innovation. It's about *execution*
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:03 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
I must say it has been a lot of fun watching Apple fan-boys frothing and getting bent out of shape. I'm curious to see what tricks Cupertino has on June 7th ... It is interesting that your post is the only one on Skunkworks-KE regarding Google IO, Facebook f8, or Twitter Chirp. Is it that devs in Kenya find these happenings to be largely irrelevant to "our daily bread", or is it just that these discussions are happening elsewhere? Curious... saidi
PS FWIW, it wasn't a secret that 1 Infinite Loop would get into mobile... that was known way before the iPhone launched. Talking of which: did you know the "revolutionary" iPhone design wasn't quite that? Check out these two links: the first one of an LG phone pre-dating the first iPhone; and the second of an open-source phone (OpenMoko, now defunct) with full multi-touch support also pre-dating the iPhone (the illustrations are eerily familiar). I guess innovation is in the eye of the beholder ;)
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/iphone-and-lg-ke850-separated-at-birth
http://www.slashgear.com/fic-linux-cellphone-can-it-capture-the-imagination-...
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Glenn Sequeira <gsequeira@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Reason: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.”
Vic Gundotra VP Developer Products, Google (@ Google I/O'10)
The Rebuttal: "But We're Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model."
John Paczkowski All Things Digital
The Fact: "... Google acquired Android in August of 2005. That’s nearly 18 months before the world even knew about iPhone, let alone its carrier model or prospects for success."
Matt Drance Apple Outsider
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Executing on a bad idea will get simply get you a bad idea well-executed... not far indeed (at least not for the long term). On the other hand, executing not-so-ok on a great idea will get you farther (it buys you time for mid-course corrections). I'm ok giving Cupertino mad props for execution (which up until now they had done very well), just not for much innovation (which is what they normally get credited for). It is true innovation is over-rated, but so is execution. saidi On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Victor Ngeny <victormaritim@gmail.com>wrote:
@Rad Kweli kabisa we all gots good/great ideas lakini the execution is what defines if the idea will will be a great product or just another product.
V
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not about innovation. It's about *execution*
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:03 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
I must say it has been a lot of fun watching Apple fan-boys frothing and getting bent out of shape. I'm curious to see what tricks Cupertino has on June 7th ... It is interesting that your post is the only one on Skunkworks-KE regarding Google IO, Facebook f8, or Twitter Chirp. Is it that devs in Kenya find these happenings to be largely irrelevant to "our daily bread", or is it just that these discussions are happening elsewhere? Curious... saidi
PS FWIW, it wasn't a secret that 1 Infinite Loop would get into mobile... that was known way before the iPhone launched. Talking of which: did you know the "revolutionary" iPhone design wasn't quite that? Check out these two links: the first one of an LG phone pre-dating the first iPhone; and the second of an open-source phone (OpenMoko, now defunct) with full multi-touch support also pre-dating the iPhone (the illustrations are eerily familiar). I guess innovation is in the eye of the beholder ;)
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/iphone-and-lg-ke850-separated-at-birth
http://www.slashgear.com/fic-linux-cellphone-can-it-capture-the-imagination-...
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Glenn Sequeira <gsequeira@gmail.com>
wrote:
The Reason: “If we did not act, we faced a draconian future. Where one man, one company, one carrier was the future.”
Vic Gundotra VP Developer Products, Google (@ Google I/O'10)
The Rebuttal: "But We're Just Fine With the Two Men, One Company, One Search Engine Model."
John Paczkowski All Things Digital
The Fact: "... Google acquired Android in August of 2005. That’s nearly 18 months before the world even knew about iPhone, let alone its carrier model or prospects for success."
Matt Drance Apple Outsider
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I think the guys at Cupertino create beautiful products that everyone want to have. I doubt you can say the same about Dell or HP. The thing about innovation is that it is really a perception issue. It is like saying who first inveted the Graphical user Interface; was it Microsoft, Apple, Xerox (PARC) or even the Pentagon (DARPA). But the first useful GPU is associated wit the Macintosh. So take you pick. i guess now there are very few things left to innovate. You take what is already there and make it better, and make people want to have it. If you manage to do that, you may end up being called innovative even if you are not. Talkign about innovation, have you noticed everyone now is in a rush to create an App store? from Google, Microsoft, RIM, Nokia, Samsung and even Safaricom. But who created the first viable App Store that now everyone wants to emulate? And selling music online? Do you know who is the biggest retailer of music? Are these innovations? Can't really say but their success speak for themselves.
I think the guys at Cupertino create beautiful products that everyone want to have.
Absolutely. Their neurotic attention to design aesthetics is largely unmatched. The thing about innovation is that it is really a perception issue. True. Which is why it is important to separate spin (perception) from reality. But who created the first viable App Store that now everyone wants to
emulate?
I can't think of prior instances of the app store... though you'd be hard-pressed to call one-click online software stores innovative. And selling music online? Do you know who is the biggest retailer of music? Back in the last century, MP3.com was huge in this area, they even had a huge IPO by those days' standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3.com). Bless Cupertino for delivering massively to its shareholders, but what they do is innovation-lite. The secret lesson in this: look at others' good ideas and figure out why they failed (e.g., maybe they were under-capitalized). Then go do it better. But don't build on the quicksand of mediocre ideas; no amount of execution will save you. saidi On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the guys at Cupertino create beautiful products that everyone want to have. I doubt you can say the same about Dell or HP. The thing about innovation is that it is really a perception issue. It is like saying who first inveted the Graphical user Interface; was it Microsoft, Apple, Xerox (PARC) or even the Pentagon (DARPA). But the first useful GPU is associated wit the Macintosh. So take you pick.
i guess now there are very few things left to innovate. You take what is already there and make it better, and make people want to have it. If you manage to do that, you may end up being called innovative even if you are not.
Talkign about innovation, have you noticed everyone now is in a rush to create an App store? from Google, Microsoft, RIM, Nokia, Samsung and even Safaricom. But who created the first viable App Store that now everyone wants to emulate?
And selling music online? Do you know who is the biggest retailer of music?
Are these innovations? Can't really say but their success speak for themselves.
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It is interesting that your post is the only one on Skunkworks-KE regarding Google IO, Facebook f8, or Twitter Chirp. Is it that devs in Kenya find these happenings to be largely irrelevant to "our daily bread", or is it just that these discussions are happening elsewhere?
Curious...
I'm really quite curious about this. I don't remember reading about the month-long privacy-debacle involving Facebook and their social graph. Or are these issues huge in the echo-chamber of tech-news only? saidi
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