offtopic : theft of fuel @ donholm petrol station
The fuel attendants at caltex donholm have been stealing customers fuel for some time but now they have become very bold. After a car or a motor bike fuels a low amount (<500), they don't hook the pump properly and so it does not initialize to zero. When the next car parks for fueling and the driver is not attentive, they will start fueling from 300 or so and after the customer leave, they share the difference. One guy will be asking how much to fuel while another will be holding the pump to distract the victim. It has now become a normal occurrence. Today I had to tell them off. "To look for another job if the current one is not able to enable them do honest work". I suspect that the same may be happening to many other stations. Ladies are especially vulnerable as they are not keen to look at the pump readings from start to finish! -- Regards http://www.software.co.ke
Report them to the Chief!, wajue mkono wa Serikali, 13 days of community service On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
The fuel attendants at caltex donholm have been stealing customers fuel for some time but now they have become very bold. After a car or a motor bike fuels a low amount (<500), they don't hook the pump properly and so it does not initialize to zero.
When the next car parks for fueling and the driver is not attentive, they will start fueling from 300 or so and after the customer leave, they share the difference. One guy will be asking how much to fuel while another will be holding the pump to distract the victim.
It has now become a normal occurrence. Today I had to tell them off. "To look for another job if the current one is not able to enable them do honest work".
I suspect that the same may be happening to many other stations. Ladies are especially vulnerable as they are not keen to look at the pump readings from start to finish!
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
The fuel attendants at caltex donholm have been stealing customers fuel for some time but now they have become very bold. After a car or a motor bike fuels a low amount (<500), they don't hook the pump properly and so it does not initialize to zero.
When the next car parks for fueling and the driver is not attentive, they will start fueling from 300 or so and after the customer leave, they share the difference. One guy will be asking how much to fuel while another will be holding the pump to distract the victim.
It has now become a normal occurrence. Today I had to tell them off. "To look for another job if the current one is not able to enable them do honest work".
I suspect that the same may be happening to many other stations. Ladies are especially vulnerable as they are not keen to look at the pump readings from start to finish!
This happens in many petrol stations, especially when they realize you are not attentive. One day they did that to me at the Shell on Langata Rd (Kamotho's) and I simply watched them, then I told them to their face that I don't fall to such stupid tricks and so I am not paying and I did not pay. They were simply shocked - I mean the two guys who were involved in the act to rip me off. What you always need to do is to ensure that the pump is reset to 000 before they begin to fuel. Make it a point of coming out of the vehicle whenever you enter a petrol station. Besides helping stop these guys stealing from you, it may also help you if the station catches fire:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:05 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
it may also help you if the station catches fire:-)
@wash, between drive off to safety and mad rush, you choose to run ?
I choose to run! Why? With all the mess with cars in the petrol station (mostly) you cannot drive out easily (in panic) without banging a few things. I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
On 15/08/2010, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:)
@ Wash, Then ypu spend most of your vauable time chasing insurance companies for a claim....
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by the way @wash on a different note, i chose PCBSD thanks to advise from kasina, will update you on the experience. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On 15/08/2010, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:)
@ Wash, Then ypu spend most of your vauable time chasing insurance companies for a claim....
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
On 15/08/2010, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:)
@ Wash, Then ypu spend most of your vauable time chasing insurance companies for a claim....
In my experience spanning about 10 years, ALICO/AIG/CHARTISINSURANCE has settled all claims I've made within 1 week! I never had to chase anyone, just wait for the cheque. This is subject to me providing all the necessary documentation. I have never insured with anyone else, so I don't know about those who have to be chased. Maybe you should cross over to CHARTIS INSURANCE? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
Maybe PetrolTracker (separate thread with Saidimu) can have some additional feature that allows people to send in which petrol stations are notorious for siphoning fuel. -- Josiah Mugambi On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com
wrote:
On 15/08/2010, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:)
@ Wash, Then ypu spend most of your vauable time chasing insurance companies for a claim....
In my experience spanning about 10 years, ALICO/AIG/CHARTISINSURANCE has settled all claims I've made within 1 week! I never had to chase anyone, just wait for the cheque. This is subject to me providing all the necessary documentation. I have never insured with anyone else, so I don't know about those who have to be chased. Maybe you should cross over to CHARTIS INSURANCE?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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@Josiah Mugambi, at that point, we may start having problems of scope creep. maybe someone else can do this as a plugin , but it should not be part of the original project
I once worked briefly for a large oil company, the situation above described is the most common type of fuel theft in petrol stations. I have always wondered why they have never programmed the machines not to start from a number other than 0...... or to stop after 10 seconds if the fuel nozzle thingi is not being pressed. It can mostly be blamed on poor remuneration of pump attendants by the dealers. The only way of not being conned right now is to watch them when they are fueling. Park close to the meter, ensure they put 0...then you are good to go On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Josiah Mugambi, at that point, we may start having problems of scope creep. maybe someone else can do this as a plugin , but it should not be part of the original project _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: [...]
The only way of not being conned right now is to watch them when they are fueling. Park close to the meter, ensure they put 0...then you are good to go
And get out of the car, pay close attention. Also helps if you glare at them menacingly..... BR S -- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
Really, i think THE only way out is pumping yourself :-) No risk there of being conned. I think it really sad that we have accepted 'bad service'. Its become culturally accepted, we now approach service delivery from the point of view, bad service & dishonesty withstanding, i how do i go about ensuring i get value for my money. You've already taken to controlling most of the variables here, so why not do it yourself already? Just my 15cents On 8/16/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote: [...]
The only way of not being conned right now is to watch them when they are fueling. Park close to the meter, ensure they put 0...then you are good to go
And get out of the car, pay close attention. Also helps if you glare at them menacingly.....
BR S
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Coz if they let us do it, people will run away with their money so the risk is placed on the lesser thief :-) On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Wanjiru Njoroge <wanjirunjoroge@gmail.com>wrote:
Really, i think THE only way out is pumping yourself :-) No risk there of being conned.
I think it really sad that we have accepted 'bad service'. Its become culturally accepted, we now approach service delivery from the point of view, bad service & dishonesty withstanding, i how do i go about ensuring i get value for my money. You've already taken to controlling most of the variables here, so why not do it yourself already?
Just my 15cents
On 8/16/10, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com
wrote: [...]
The only way of not being conned right now is to watch them when they are fueling. Park close to the meter, ensure they put 0...then you are good to go
And get out of the car, pay close attention. Also helps if you glare at them menacingly.....
BR S
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The scope isn't really fixed since the project is still in its early days; anyone is welcome to suggest expansions/contractions and provide the labor required ;) Saidi On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Josiah Mugambi, at that point, we may start having problems of scope creep. maybe someone else can do this as a plugin , but it should not be part of the original project _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet
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(Somehow I missed this thread...) It's a great idea, I'll put it up on the issue-tracker. Saidi On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe PetrolTracker (separate thread with Saidimu) can have some additional feature that allows people to send in which petrol stations are notorious for siphoning fuel. -- Josiah Mugambi
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau < solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/08/2010, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I'd rather leave the car to burn, since it's covered by comprehensive insurance so I lose nothing... well, a few things inside which are most likely insured as well:)
@ Wash, Then ypu spend most of your vauable time chasing insurance companies for a claim....
In my experience spanning about 10 years, ALICO/AIG/CHARTISINSURANCE has settled all claims I've made within 1 week! I never had to chase anyone, just wait for the cheque. This is subject to me providing all the necessary documentation. I have never insured with anyone else, so I don't know about those who have to be chased. Maybe you should cross over to CHARTIS INSURANCE?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Thanks for this ! I did'nt realise it. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
The fuel attendants at caltex donholm have been stealing customers fuel for some time but now they have become very bold. After a car or a motor bike fuels a low amount (<500), they don't hook the pump properly and so it does not initialize to zero.
When the next car parks for fueling and the driver is not attentive, they will start fueling from 300 or so and after the customer leave, they share the difference. One guy will be asking how much to fuel while another will be holding the pump to distract the victim.
It has now become a normal occurrence. Today I had to tell them off. "To look for another job if the current one is not able to enable them do honest work".
I suspect that the same may be happening to many other stations. Ladies are especially vulnerable as they are not keen to look at the pump readings from start to finish!
-- Regards
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[ Brainiac ] -
Barrack Otieno -
Dennis Kioko -
Joram Mwinamo -
Josiah Mugambi -
Martin Waireri -
Odhiambo Washington -
Peter Muchemi -
saidimu apale -
Solomon Mburu Kamau -
Steve Muchai -
Wanjiru Njoroge