CCK has issues. cant they do a installment kind of a payment system, let all pay $25 M but mdogo mdogo, this will allow the tel companies to invest more into tech rather than finding ways to get the$ 25 M so that they can pay the GOK. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hehehe,
I linke the man eat man analogy. But I would rather 'man eat fish'.
lol!
Lenya
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting discussion
I will not dwell on the argument whether CCK should reduce,charge or remove the licence fee or not.
Convergence is a telecom industry reality,the new battlelines is between the telecommunication industry and the entertainment industry (Movies,online games,betting etc).
So telecommunication industry should invest in high speed technologies 3G(IMT 2000) ,3G LTE going towards 4getc.
Because the Moore's law will apply to the unforeseeable future.The demand for data is huge so far it stands at 10 exabytes per year (10 to the power of 18).People want more data and mobility.To achieve these two requirements you need platforms which are scalable and offering high speed connectivity
Having said that there are also challenges which needs to be balanced e.g
Commodotization Vs fast mover advantage Capital Expenditure Vs Innovation Government Regulation Vs De-regulation Adhoc cost cutting Vs Lean management (Unified oss/bss)
And that is where Safcom wins they know what is happening and they adjust the strategy according to the environment.While the others sit back and whine and whine and whine.With alot of backing from skunkworks.
Out there in the industry its man eat man......you either win or go home (like NBA playoffs)
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
From a market stand point, what are the chances of YU, Zain, etc
recouping
the 25M? They cannot start charging the exorbitant rates Safcom had the privilege of charging for internet back then. Hell, even Safcom would have trouble recouping the same amount now (based on data alone, not Mpesa and other products)
The market has changed and the conditions that applied then dont apply now. I am with Bernad on this one - CCK should look for a more complex way of determining the fees rather than a once-all fee.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau < solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the rationale for CCK charging $25m to acquire 3G? Is there a universal criteria for these charges or they are determined on as-in basis?
If there is no justifiable rationale behind this, then Zain should not pay less than what Safaricom paid for 3G.
Corrections are welcome.
On 03/06/2010, Bernard Owuor <b_owuor@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think CCK should refund the $25million that was paid by safcom, and desist from charging such licensing fees - unless the goal is to protect the licensees from spurious competition. As we have seen, the high fee
only
serves to hinder competition - or, are Zain and Orange "spurious" competition?
I also think that a pay per use model for levies could be fairer to all, than a once-off. If the innovator makes a killing, it's only fairer that CCK (GoK?) shares in it. On the other hand, if it's a bad deal, the company should not be punished for it.
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________________________________ From: Moses <mosenetk@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 4:29:59 AM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain to Launch 3G Service in July
Does this line of argument also point towards the guys who got a unified license recently should pay all cumulative costs for each category they got just like the Safcon and Zain had payed separately? Now that the regulators will have costs for licensing and review of mobile money systems, does it mean mpesa should be asked to pay those costs(backdated with inflationary adjustments)? The easy access of the existing operators into the 3G segment will only serve to grow the industry and give us "real" broadband countrywide. The CCK should follow the fundamentals on which its created and stop falling to political noise so they can effectively regulate the industry while representing the public goodwill.
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Humphrey Ngoiya < hngoiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >"I still think the fees should remain the same at USD > 25 million. That's >what Safaricom paid, and with inflation the money is even worth
less."
> >some > time back the nokia 3310 cost around 15K, by your reasoning it should >now cost 20K after factoring in inflation. >Personally, I belive >license fees should be tied to market trends and not history. > The 3310 depreciates over time, a 3G license appreciates because, based on my understanding of how these things work, more Kenyans are getting connected and thus the holder of the license will most likely make more money this year than last year, until such a point that any Kenyan that can be connected is connected, at which point the revenue generated by the business activities allowed by the 3G license will stabilize.
Personally, I believe they should all pay the 25m.
On other matters, it would be interesting to know how this money is spent by CCK and/or the GoK.
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